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Britain Is Now The Crime Capital Of The West
Independent (UK) ^ | 7-14-2002 | Sophie Goodchild

Posted on 07/13/2002 3:57:12 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam
United States will soon own title/crown thanks to the fat police and their War on Obesity, or is that the food police and War on Junk Food? Sigh... I just can't keep track of all these police-State wars against people.
21 posted on 07/13/2002 6:15:15 PM PDT by Zon
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To: blam
Well, it's not just socialism.

Let's face it, the real culprit is "diversity".

22 posted on 07/13/2002 6:17:47 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
the real culprit is "diversity".

And the soft-headed notions of moral relativism and post-modernism behind "political correctness." It all ties together.

23 posted on 07/13/2002 6:23:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Shermy
Experts say this is the result of a committed policy of ploughing resources into training prisoners, finding them jobs after release and then monitoring them to ensure they do not reoffend.

That's a lie

Where's the lie? I'm sure it's true that experts say that reduced crime rates result from a committed policy of plowing resources into hiring experts.
24 posted on 07/13/2002 6:31:59 PM PDT by JimKalb
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To: Bernard Marx
Exactly. And you know what the cure is...more diversity, more moral relativism, more political correctness, and more post-modernism. Oh, and reparations.
25 posted on 07/13/2002 6:33:15 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: blam
"The findings are expected to cause further embarrassment to the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, who has pledged to have street crime under control by September."

Mr. Blair should take a closer look at the Swiss and their crime rates. I read somewhere that Hitler, the guy who was nuts enough to invade Russia in the winter, was easily persuaded NOT to invade Switzerland, where every man has a military style weapon when he's enlisted in the national guard (and I think they let him keep it if he wants to when he retires), and every home has a year's supply of food and water.

I'll bet no one dares to be so rude as to pick the pocket of a guy carrying a machine gun.

26 posted on 07/13/2002 6:42:50 PM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: JimKalb
Where's the lie? I'm sure it's true that experts say that reduced crime rates result from a committed policy of plowing resources into hiring experts.

Excellent point. I see I need more training. A govt. job for you, perhaps?

27 posted on 07/13/2002 6:54:22 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I live in NYC--I think our crime rate has gone down because arrests have been stepped up, parole restricted, 3 strikes policy, etc. Guiliani also instituted a quality of life program whereby graffiti, noise complaints, turnstile jumping were all treated seriously under the premise that people who commit low level crimes also commit serious crimes--turns out that alot of turnstile jumpers and other small time lawbreakers had outstanding warrants on other crimes.
28 posted on 07/13/2002 7:03:03 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Torie
I think the murder rate is much lower in Britain than the US, but I could be wrong. I seem to recall some flap about that.

Bump for an answer.

29 posted on 07/13/2002 8:33:54 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: blam
"...Sophie Goodchild..."

Isn't she one of the love children from James Bond and "Pussy Galore"? Or was that "Tattoo Me Quickley"?
30 posted on 07/13/2002 11:32:23 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Phillip Augustus
Let's face it, the real culprit is "diversity".

Yes. This seems to be the 400 pound gorilla in the room that this article took great pains to ignore.

While gun-confiscation plays a role in the escalating crime rate --simply because victims cannot protect themselves, the real (albeit unmentionable) cause is immigrants who have resisted assimilation. I'd be willing to bet that on a per-capita basis, the majority of Britain's criminals do not speak the Queen's English as their primary language.

The media will never mention this --except possibly to make excuses for such behavior.

31 posted on 07/14/2002 12:14:27 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Paul Atreides
America's Safest and Most Dangerous Cities:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (31 cities)
Safest 10: Most Dangerous 10:
1 San Jose, CA 1 Detroit, MI
2 Honolulu, HI 2 Baltimore, MD
3 El Paso, TX 3 Memphis, TN
4 San Diego, CA 4 Washington, DC
5 Austin, TX 5 Dallas, TX
6 San Antonio, TX 6 Philadelphia, PA
7 New York, NY 7 Cleveland, OH
8 Denver, CO 8 Nashville, TN
9 San Francisco, CA 9 Milwaukee, WI
10 Las Vegas, NV 10 Columbus, OH

32 posted on 07/14/2002 2:16:07 AM PDT by be131
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To: Mrs. P
Mr. Blair should take a closer look at the Swiss and their crime rates.

There's a good deal of truth in what you mention:

Swiss Gun Laws- and some rebuttal to HCI "spin"-- Thread II

33 posted on 07/14/2002 2:30:36 AM PDT by backhoe
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Switzerland, where every man has a military style weapon when he's enlisted in the national guard (and I think they let him keep it if he wants to when he retires)

They don't just let him keep it, they require him to keep it, in good working order, for a number of years, 10 I think. I would guess that in addition to low crime, Switzerland also has no problem with illegal immigration. One would think that their neighbors, the French, would learn by example, but no, the French are too busy searching for answers in the scribblings of Marx and Sartre.

34 posted on 07/14/2002 2:41:35 AM PDT by pariah
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To: blam
Brought to you by our sponsors, Rampant Immigration and Gun Control...
35 posted on 07/14/2002 2:53:52 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: backhoe
I bookmarked your link about gun control and the Swiss. EXELLENT! Thanks Bud.

Nam Vet

36 posted on 07/14/2002 3:31:55 AM PDT by Nam Vet
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To: Nam Vet
Glad to oblige, neighbor.
37 posted on 07/14/2002 3:37:56 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Mrs. P
"I read somewhere that Hitler, the guy who was nuts enough ""to invade Russia in the winter, "

The invasion lasted INTO winter. But you were correct on the nuts part.
38 posted on 07/14/2002 6:44:16 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: blam
It's very interesting to find both Great Britian and Australia mentioned by name as leading crime nations. Let's see now...what do those two nations have in common that might affect crime stats? Oh, yeah...that's right, they had their guns taken away.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

39 posted on 07/14/2002 7:01:47 AM PDT by wku man
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To: blam
Why do the British want to raise crime and leave their citizens defenseless?
40 posted on 07/14/2002 7:46:43 AM PDT by waterstraat
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