Posted on 07/13/2002 6:14:09 PM PDT by SheLion
I have done business with the indians before, the cigarettes were fresh, and were delivered fast. I was quite satisfied, but it was only a few dollars cheaper.
That has now changed, the cost benefits have shifted dramatically to the indians instead of heavily taxed state cigarettes.
My state will get NOTHING from me from now on !!!!
Canada tried the same thing a few years ago and lost hundreds of millions in taxes due to people swithching to the indians for their supplier.
Anyone that pays these new taxes is stupid enough to deserve to be unfairly taxed!
Just do a goolge search, there are indians that sell all brands, for at least $10 less than you are paying!!!
Why give $12 in taxes a carton to those state liberals, when you can give your money to free enterprize indians?
Shame on you for giving so much money to the liberals!!
(but you will be forgiven if you switch to the indians and save some big money!!!)
We are working on it, Sir Charles. Hang in there.
Way to go Larry!!! It is nice to see all the Libertarian indians helping us out!!!
http://www.yessmoke.com
http://www.yessmokes.com
One is Switzerland, the other Panama. Beware foreign "Marlboros" they are not the same -- all the US brands made overseas under license taste the same to me, crappy - they aren't using US tobacco, I don't think.
Another is http://www.smokes-spirits.com
Seems to me that $25 for a carton of ready mades of the real deal is about as cheap as is possible.
The american indians legally sell untaxed cigarettes. It is not illegal, it is not criminal, it is just plain old the american way!!
One could make a case that it is the state governemnts that are criminal by unfair taxation. Therefore, buying state taxed cigarettes makes one an accessory to crime.
That means that those that pay choose to pay the state tax, are the real criminals??
I wish everybody in the US smoked a pack a day?
Smart Man! You WON'T be sorry!
Max, you say: And the tobacco companies wonder why we don't support them? They are contemptible.
I don't disagree with you - but I think it is rather unfair to tar them all with the same brush. And the comment about retailers from PM is legitimate. Unless PM goes the way of B&W and does mail order catalog sales of their product - their main customers are the retailers.
I also have noticed that it is only PM that is being attacked bcause of Ryan's comment on both this thread and the previous one on this article. Nothing is being commented upon about RJR's reaction, whiich is also legitimate.
I don't know what has been going on behind the scenes in other states, but I am very familiar with what has gone on in Delaware for the past 20 years regarding tobacco taxes. Except for the MSA (which I won't get into) the TC's have been the ONLY friend smokers have had when it came to increases in taxes. The smokers are their own worst enemy through their continued silence.
The cross border sales, smuggling, or whatever you want to call it is a legitimate argument against the outrageous increases in cig taxes. Whenever Maryland raises it's cig taxes, like they just did - sales skyrocket in Delaware. I won't even talk about what happened to sales here when new Jersey cranked theirs up to like triple ours.
Unreasonable cigarette tax increases are discriminatory, regressive and, encourage illegal activities and should be opposed for all these reasons. (and probably a few dozen others)
It's for the children. If it saves one life, its worth it.
http://www.greekembassy.org/press/newsflash/2002/May/nflash0531.html
NEWS FLASH ! Greece joins the West in anti-smoking measures Athens, 31/05/2002 (ANA)
Greece will follow the example set by the United States and many European countries in enacting a series of nine measures against smoking and for the protection of non-smokers, Health Minister Alekos Papadopoulos said on Thursday.
Announcing the measures at a press conference one day before the international day against smoking, he said that measures will carry penalties of up to three months imprisonment and steep cash fines.
The measures include the total ban on cigarette advertising, beginning from Jan. 1st, which includes a ban on commercials in movie theaters as well, while restaurants and coffee shops will have to create non-smoking sections.
The non-smoking section system will not apply to bars and nightclubs that are open only during the evening and late night hours and it will not apply to the traditional type of Greek coffeehouses.
The minister stressed that the new measures include provisions for the strict enforcement of the cigarette smoking ban in enclosed public areas where people have to stay for long periods of time, such as bus stations, railway stations, airports etc., although the establishment of smoking areas in those places is mandated.
He added that the smoking ban in hospitals, clinics and in all places providing healthcare services will be strictly enforced, as it will be in public transport systems, including taxis.
The education ministry, in cooperation with the health ministry, will undertake a campaign to inform students of the dangers of smoking, aiming to create smoke free schools, while the measures include a mandate banning smoking in school grounds, with the parallel establishment of smoking spaces for teachers who smoke.
Also, the measures include the initiation of a health ministry campaign aiming to alert smokers on the dangers of smoking and to make them more sensitive to those who do not smoke.
The minister stressed that for the success of the measures the ministry's efforts include the upgrading of outpatient clinics of hospitals that aid smokers to reject the habit, while the ministry, along with the National Radio and Television Council, will work toward stopping indirect tobacco advertising in every radio and television broadcast.
During the presentation of the measures, Papadopoulos said the enforcement of the measures in the public service sector will be the responsibility of the managers and supervisors of each service.
The minister underlined that the measures aim at protecting citizens whether they smoke or not, to alleviate the cost of smoking for the healthcare system of the country and to avert the creation of a new generation of smokers.
Athens News Agency
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