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Socialization schmocialization: These teens tell it like it is
Enter Stage Right ^ | July 15, 2002 | Isabel Lyman

Posted on 07/18/2002 10:50:21 AM PDT by gordgekko

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To: homeschool mama
What an encouraging article. Thanks for the ping. Alice Cooper at the beginning gave me a laugh. My kids and I sing Pink Floyd here...

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave my kids alone

No offense towards the good teachers out there. (And yes I do believe my kids need an education...a better one). We are having the time of our life. Thanks Homeschool Mama.

21 posted on 07/18/2002 1:11:41 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Kwilliams
thanks, kyle ;)

Homeschooling also allowed me to practice my religion unimpeded by school rules and ignorant faculty members," she says.

uh huh!

22 posted on 07/18/2002 1:12:37 PM PDT by christine
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To: Greeklawyer
Taken to a ridiculous extreme, would an employer favor a home schooled candidate vs a public school candidate? (here is a hint: the homeschooler will have better people skills)

My 18.5 and 17 year olds have had no trouble finding jobs, and keeping their employers happy.

23 posted on 07/18/2002 1:17:43 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I reguarly zoned out during lectures at school, and did all my learning on my own. I wish I had been home-schooled from the beginning. ... Instead I felt frozen out socially because I refused to dumb myself down to fit in.

After 3 years of parochial school, I went to a public school and dropped out. Body there, mind exploring the universe.

I may as well have been home-schooled, because the only lesson I learned from public school were how much I hated public school. Ditto. My kids have it so much better than I did, thank God!

24 posted on 07/18/2002 1:21:07 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: Greeklawyer
...that day care was good for children for socialization. His opinion was that this defied common sense...

I took me a while, but I finally realized that the reason liberals seem to always be proposing thing that make no since at all is because they are lying.

They say socialization, but the mean indoctrination.

I remember waaaaaay back in college

This must be something like 20BF (Before FReepers)

25 posted on 07/18/2002 1:24:14 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: gordgekko; Nightshift
home schooling bump
26 posted on 07/18/2002 2:42:30 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: gordgekko
One of my friends is a teacher. He was talking about socialization with home schooled kids, and trying to spit out the Union garnage. I simply asked him if kids could get the social skills if they were, entered into the boy scouts, in little league, girl scouts, pee-wee football, altar boys or church choir (no pedophile jokes here), community service, a job, youth hockey, the Y.M.C.A. gym, youth sports leagues, becoming a memeber of Free Republic (okay just kidding about the last one), etc. At the point he just addmitted that the Union told him to always condemn home schooling, and to talk about socialization since there can't be any effective studies to measure it and people usually assume that home schooled kids will be worse off anyway.
27 posted on 07/18/2002 4:06:54 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M; homeschool mama; 2Jedismom; SpookBrat; Jim Robinson
becoming a memeber of Free Republic (okay just kidding about the last one), etc.

Hey, don't knock it. My son wants to register and I think I will let him in the next couple of weeks (with me monitoring of course). We should start a forum for homeschooled kids : )

28 posted on 07/18/2002 4:34:35 PM PDT by TxBec
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To: Sonny M
Socialization, huh?

Hmmm...I'd rather my child be civilized than socialized.

29 posted on 07/18/2002 4:37:06 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: TxBec
You might be on to something there, TxBec. :o)
30 posted on 07/18/2002 4:38:46 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: TxBec; homeschool mama; davidosborne
I've thought about that so many times, but I figured Jim would say no because it's an adult site. I wish we could start a running thread for homeschoolers. The only one I know is homeschool mama and David Osborne. I would love to meet the other homeschooling families here. There has been a million times in the past few months when I wish I had someone to answer a question about this or that. I'm sure homeschool mama got sick of me bugging her. LOL She's been so good to me. :)
31 posted on 07/18/2002 4:47:30 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat
I never get sick of you! Silly rabbit.
32 posted on 07/18/2002 4:48:32 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: staytrue; homeschool mama
Not only that, they were home schooled with religion, maybe not the best religion, but a type of religion.

Oh NO! Religion? HOW HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

33 posted on 07/18/2002 9:30:03 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Greeklawyer
also am shocked that teachers are not trying to "reverse engineer" what is right with what is being done for these kids.

Teachers might try with(at least the good ones would). But the education cartel would never stand for anything of the kind. For them it's not about education, it's about control.

34 posted on 07/18/2002 9:40:53 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Greeklawyer
Oh, the cat's out of the bag now. And no putting the genie back in the bottle, too late. See, at one time, Home Schooling was illegal except for a few (inconsequential for this argument) religious sects. No more.

What's so laughable is parents who have kids in the public fool system (not all are bad, true but...) when the subject of home schooling comes up usually say something like "Yes, but they don't get socialized or learn how to deal with people.." or some other tommyrot.

At this point, I usually bite my tongue and decline to point out their own foul mouthed, nauseatingly ignorant progeny who should probably not even be seen, much less heard. Oh Well. "Socialization" indeed.

35 posted on 07/18/2002 9:41:39 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Sonny M
and to talk about socialization since there can't be any effective studies to measure it and people usually assume that home schooled kids will be worse off anyway.

My MS Thesis Social Maturity of Home School Children: A Communication Approach used to be posted at http://members.aol.com/tomsmedley but AOL lost my web site. The paper survived review, and has been quoted in several books, radio interviews, etc.

36 posted on 07/19/2002 6:03:08 AM PDT by TomSmedley
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