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"THE SECRET WAR AGAINST THE JEWS" AUTHOR JOHN LOFTUS ON THE BANANA REPUBLICAN RADIO HOUR TONIGHT!
The FreeRepublic Network and Radio FreeRepublic ^ | July 18, 2002 | Luis Gonzalez

Posted on 07/18/2002 4:06:49 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

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John Loftus

Thursday, July 18th. 9 PM, EST.

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To: dennisw
Simon Weisenthal does a ton of good in this world.

Like ignoring the crimes of Castro while going after gun groups and other conservatives in America?

I guess, depending on your ideology, that might be considered "a ton" of good.

As far as going after Nazis, the movement was defeated in 1945. 99.9% of them or more are DEAD. Anyone who goes after Nazis today, while ignoring the brutal antisemitic nature of the Castro regime, is on a political Jihad against conservatism.

I don't slander John Loftus. Anyone to the right of the Nation Magazine knows he is a political operative for the far left.

51 posted on 07/19/2002 7:21:41 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
As far as going after Nazis, the movement was defeated in 1945.

You obviously haven't been to Germany lately. Nazism is starting to become intellectually fashionable again.

Anyone who goes after Nazis today, while ignoring the brutal antisemitic nature of the Castro regime, is on a political Jihad against conservatism.

So you're saying that Nazism and conservatism are one and the same?

52 posted on 07/19/2002 8:36:28 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: LarryLied
Well,most of them.The rest are in nursing homes.

Is THAT why you're posting from blue-hair-land, "Voegelin"?

53 posted on 07/19/2002 11:34:21 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied; dennisw
The Nazi heritage is alive and well. As you well know, based on many of your theories and sources. Unless of course you’re a Communist. When they’re after Jews, I think you’d side with them. From the mouth of the one you despise, LL, the one you refer to as weasel, weasel.

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The schools would fail through their silence, the Church through its forgiveness, and the home through the denial and silence of the parents. The new generation has to hear what the older generation refuses to tell it.
(Quoted in the introduction to The Sunflower)

The only value of nearly five decades of my work is a warning to the murderers of tomorrow, that they will never rest.
(Quoted in an interview in The Jerusalem Post International Edition, February 5, 1994)

For your benefit, learn from our tragedy. It is not a written law that the next victims must be Jews. It can also be other people. We saw it begin in Germany with Jews, but people from more than twenty other nations were also murdered. When I started this work, I said to myself, 'I will look for the murderers of all the victims, not only the Jewish victims. I will fight for justice.'
(Quoted in an interview in Penthouse Magazine, 1983)

The history of man is the history of crimes, and history can repeat. So information is a defense. Through this we can build, we must build, a defense against repetition.
(Baltimore Jewish Times, February 24, 1989)

We need partners. We cannot fight against the neo-Nazis alone. We need friends. We can win them by telling them their history, by talking about the others, the millions of people other than the Jews, that the Nazis killed. The Holocaust began with the Jewish. But it did not end with the Jews.
(from an interview in the Baltimore Jewish Times, April 3, 1981)

There is no denying that Hitler and Stalin are alive today...they are waiting for us to forget, because this is what makes possible the resurrection of these two monsters.
(from a meeting with President Jimmy Carter reported in The Washington Post, August 6, 1980)

54 posted on 07/19/2002 11:36:32 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Cachelot; SJackson; LarryLied
Voegelin, I mean Mr. Lied won't like this one bit.

Bush Remarks At The Simon Wiesenthal Center

Los Angeles, California - Monday, March 6, 2000

George W. Bush

It is a special honor to be with you today, and to visit this place of remembrance and hope and vigilance. Here we remember the past – including its crimes and cruelties. Here, we imagine the future – as a place where intolerance and hatred have no place in the policies of government, or the souls of citizens. I am pleased to be with friends of the Wiesenthal Center – people committed to the spread of justice and tolerance and people dedicated to a safe and secure Israel. I join you in this important cause.

All of you are supporting a great work. For more than a generation now, the Wiesenthal Center has fought against anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry. Not just here, but around the world.

More than 50 years ago, a member of the Nazi SS told Simon Wiesenthal that it wasn’t worth telling the story of the death camps – because no one would ever believe such things were possible. Yet now we do not just believe, now we know. We know because Simon Wiesenthal and many others have preserved truths that must never be lost to memory, or sacrificed to revisionism."

55 posted on 07/19/2002 1:14:37 PM PDT by veronica
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To: LarryLied; Bryan
"Republicans and Nazis."

Now, wait a minute.

That's the second time you brought that up, I can send you the link to the show on the archives, and you will not hear any of that.

Now, you WILL hear the discussion about the President's grandfather and great-grandfather, but he never tied it to the Republicans. He never made a connection between Bush 42 or Bush 43 and Nazi's.

I'll go back over the show and listen to it, but I don't think I missed it.

Understand something, in a way, I have to let you guys out there carry the water, I bring the guests on, and I bring the subjects to surface...that's when you should have kicked in, like Bryan did. If I attack guests whose opinions I do not agree with, it will become more and more difficult to get controversial guests on.

Bryan kept asking for some sort of solid proof, and while Loftus kept insinuating that being in the position that they were in, the Bush's would have known about the money transactions, we all know that's not enough to try anyone, specially for treason, and he couldn't provide any proof.

There will be a second Loftus show.

Be awake next time.

56 posted on 07/19/2002 1:22:41 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: LarryLied
NAZIS ARE DEAD!
57 posted on 07/19/2002 1:28:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: LarryLied; dennisw; veronica; SJackson; Yehuda; All
Speaking about links, Voegelin: here's one (but not clickable) - y'all just paste the path to Mr. Lied's filth.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=167531&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=0#Post167531

Now tell me, Voegelin - Mr. Lied - "Catullus83" - is this your own artistic effort, or is it from the American Nazi Party doggerel list or something?

Anyway, I see you have mastered the Vanguard style quite well.

58 posted on 07/19/2002 4:21:24 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Luis Gonzalez; LarryLied
I'm sure there are many worthy projects that John Loftus is involved with. The campaign to smear the names of Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker is not one of them.

At the time the Union Banking Corporation made millions of dollars in loans to various German steel and coal-mining corporations, the Social Democrats controlled Germany. This was the equivalent of the British Labor Party or American Democratic Party. The Nazis were a sad and pathetic, tiny minority party with 3% of the vote.

The armed forces of Germany at that time could have been easily crushed by even the Dutch, if they had been left alone to do it. Germany had a 100,000-man army without any tanks or air force, and a tiny navy.

Also, the Nazis were carefully keeping their intentions regarding world conquest and extermination of the Jews as the most carefully guarded secrets. No one could have foreseen that the companies that were receiving huge loans from UBC would end up producing the steel, explosives and coal that fueled a war machine on a campaign of world conquest and genocide.

Those loans were made in the late 1920s to a peaceful democracy in central Europe that was a fourth rate military power. Blaming Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush for the rise of the Nazis is nothing but guilt by association, innuendo and smear.

59 posted on 07/19/2002 4:26:03 PM PDT by Bryan
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To: Cachelot; LarryLied; SJackson
Mr. Lied certainly lets it all hang out there doesn't he? Must be tough to keep all the personalities straight. :)
60 posted on 07/19/2002 8:17:48 PM PDT by veronica
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To: LarryLied
The name was Valerian Trifa.Incidentally,Marshal Antonescu did not care for or trust the Iron Guard,and had their leader Codreanu murdered.This led to an Iron Guard uprising which was put downin a bloody battle in Bucharest.Something like Hitler purging the Brownshirts under Roehm because they presented a challenge to his power.In anyn event the Iron Guard killed numerous Jews during the uprising since they hated Jews more than anything else.The Iron Guard's actual name was the Legion of the Archangel Michael.I believe this occured during 1940.Trifa was an Iron Guard zealot who held a leadership position.
61 posted on 07/19/2002 9:40:30 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: dennisw
Arrow Cross under Szalasi who was executed at war's end.
62 posted on 07/19/2002 9:42:59 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: LarryLied
The three best countries for jews to be in during WW2 were Italy(until the Germans took over);Finland;and Bulgaria.All Axis powers.Jews even served as commisioned officers in the Finnish Army on the Russian front and in the Winter War.Ironic isn't it?So-called centers of "civilization"like France,Belgium,etc.couldn't wait to collaborate with Nazis to round up Jews.The Finns and Bulgarians flatly refused to turn their Jewish citizens over.
63 posted on 07/19/2002 9:49:08 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: LarryLied
"Pollard's stuff got to the Soviets"

Pollard pleaded guilty in a plea bargain which the Judge ignored due to a submission by Casper Weinberger. Weinberger's "secret memorandum" convinced the Judge of the "irreperable" damage of the information passed on to the Soviets. But, it wasn't Pollard who passed that info but Aldrich Ames who in turn set up Weinberger to deflect suspicion from himself.

Because Pollard pleaded guilty there was no evidence ever presented as to what he actually did. The charge against him did not included anything in regard to the Soviets so your statement is pure conjecture. See HERE

64 posted on 07/19/2002 9:59:05 PM PDT by anapikoros
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To: steamroller
The Soviet Union was the best. The NKVD had the recuitment sign out. Franco saved 60,000 Jews. Any who made it across the border were safe.
65 posted on 07/19/2002 9:59:06 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: anapikoros
Sure. Pollard was set up. Heard the same thing about every Soviet spy there ever was in America. White, Hiss, the Rosenbergs, Sobel, Dickstein, Boris Morros..none of them ever did it. Just a coincidence that those who most vocally proclaim the innocence of these traitors often happen to share the same heritage.
66 posted on 07/19/2002 10:02:43 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: steamroller
The three best countries for jews to be in during WW2 were Italy(until the Germans took over);

I was wrong. You were right. Italy was the best. Margareta Sarfatti was the editor of Mussolini's fascist newspaper. Guido Jung was his finance minister. Guido Arias was Italian fascisms ideologue in chief. Toeplitz,one of the countries most prominent bankers, was a Mussolini supporter. Three senators--Ancona, A. Luria, T. Meyer--were Il Duce's sole economic advisors.A. Finzi, J. Pontremoli, A. Jarach, E. Jona and C. Sarfatti helped found Italian fasicms in 1919. Life was good until late in the 1930s when Hitler forced Mussolini to turn on his fellow fascists.

67 posted on 07/19/2002 10:10:27 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: steamroller
Arrow Cross under Szalasi who was executed at war's end.
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I corrected myself in post #28.
68 posted on 07/20/2002 1:08:04 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
The Soviet Union was the best

As incoherent as ever, Nazi :). About on a par with your lyrical talents, I'd say.

Franco was in the Soviet union? You really should lay off the sauce, Mr. Lied. Err... Voegelin.

69 posted on 07/20/2002 2:32:54 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied
I don't slander John Loftus. Anyone to the right of the Nation Magazine knows he is a political operative for the far left.

----> You're the one who slanders Loftus. This is what commies try to do. Loftus has done a lot off great work yet you seek to defame him. Really outrageous if you want to know. At worst Lofus may be a run of the mill liberal but in no way is he far left the way you paranoiacally cry out.


70 posted on 07/20/2002 6:42:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Franco saved 60,000 Jews. Any who made it across the border were safe.

-----> This will be your new mantra which you will post at least 200 times. And you'll b!tch and moan about Weisenthal Center not mentioning it. That too will be good for 200 posts.....


http://www.wiesenthal.com/



71 posted on 07/20/2002 6:46:12 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
The judge who sentenced the Rosenbergs to a well-deserved death and the prosecutor who sought the death penalty were both Jewish.You routinely point out the activities of small numbers of Jews to characterize millions of people.It gets old real quick.
72 posted on 07/20/2002 10:48:25 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: steamroller
Don't forget Denmark and Yugoslavia. By the way, I just read the new issue of Newsweek where there was an interesting blurb, not quite a full article, about a certain provincial town in which many Frenchmen saved Jews at great risk to themselves, so the French should not be demonized en masse.
73 posted on 07/20/2002 11:30:57 AM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
I was speaking of the French Vichy government.I saw an interview on TV where an Italian Jew in the custody of the Italians was allowed out and about on his own and wandered into a French Vichy zone where he was arrested by the police.He recalled being rescued by the Italians.Apparently Italian concentration camps were run like internment centers and no abuses are even alleged to have taken place,let alone murder.Survival was a matter of location.You're right about Denmark-I shouldn't have overlooked it.There were many Germans for that matter who concealed Jews from the Nazis.
74 posted on 07/20/2002 6:58:37 PM PDT by steamroller
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