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Life gets harder with welfare cuts - the gimme girls complaining again
Hampshire Gazette ^

Posted on 07/20/2002 5:26:01 AM PDT by freeper12

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To: freeper12
Well Chrystel, the whole idea is not to make welfare so darn easy.
21 posted on 07/20/2002 6:27:49 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Brytani
My wifes case is a little different.

I was married to her and supporting our children. Notice I said "our" children. They can with the package. Her deadbeat useless ex-husband was supposed to pay her $150.00 a month. We could not afford a lawyer to go after him, since I was supporting his children. (which I did willingly)

The state wanted 25% of whatever they received in child support as a fee. Instead of charging him for his lack of responsibility, the state charged it against the children's money.

I find that very strange way to defend children

It also was 20 years ago, so hopefully it has changed since then

22 posted on 07/20/2002 6:28:12 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: freeper12
A 'true' gimmiecrap waltzing through life on the government dole, popping out babies and complaining that HER needs aren't being met by her daddy......The United States Government.
23 posted on 07/20/2002 6:34:52 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: two23
I'm sick of the mind set that tries to use "domestic abuse" as the excuse for the staggering divorce rates in this country. Divorce can be a hardship that is much worse than a "less-than-perfect" marriage. There's too much "me-me-me" at the expense of the kids.

So a mother should stay in a home where her husband is physically abusive toward her?

24 posted on 07/20/2002 6:35:42 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Yardstick
What are the actual percentages for welfare and defense spending?

I don't know the real numbers are, I'm sure I could find out by a simple Google search.

BUT, I know it is not .05 % for welfare and 48% for defense.

BTW, I wish those numbers were correct.

Budget of the United States Government Fiscal Year 2002

25 posted on 07/20/2002 6:36:45 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: freeper12
Look at the hyperbole:

people in need are at the tip of a pointed sword.
it means disaster for many of us.
the avalanche of verification paperwork
struggling to survive

Another whiner, divorced, with a houseful of kids, undoubtedly soaking her ex for mondo child support, demanding that the taxpayers foot the bill for advancing her education. In a socialist state like Massachusetts, it's not the typical response to a personal crisis, these days it's the ONLY response!

I especially liked this line:

What we need is simple: 24-hour day care

Oh. Is that all? How about maid service? A chauffeur? Gardener? Someone to carry all those heavy books for you? How about a valet?

The arrogance of the parasite class knows no limit.

26 posted on 07/20/2002 6:38:09 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: freeper12
I had just begun my higher education and was ending my marriage. I couldn't afford books and my ex-husband, who moved out, wanted to spend as much time as possible with our daughter. We came to a mutual agreement - he babysat while I completed my assignments with the books on reserve at the library.

This woman asked for her troubles. She ended the marriage. The husband can't be all that bad because they are civil to each other, he wants to be with his kids and she trusts him enough to have him babysit.

Nothing new here. Just the typical selfish American woman in her 20s 0r 30s who thinks marriage is easily disposed of with few negative consequences.

27 posted on 07/20/2002 6:40:24 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: arm958
"I'm poor, but I'm not lazy, I'm not stupid and I'm definitely not quiet."

"on more than a few buses to the welfare office and back."

Well - since you are riding the welfare train (that working Americans pay for) because of stupid decisions you made, how about putting your non-lazy butt to work cleaning up each bus stop you visit to and from the Welfare Office.

28 posted on 07/20/2002 6:41:10 AM PDT by Dacus943
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To: freeper12
12....

Lets get back to the very basic situation. The lady was once without child, now, would she please enlighten us to at what point in her life did the rest of us intervene and cause her to have not one,but two children????

The author says she is not stupid, fine, then how is it she has two children and cannot care for them?

If she feels that we do not "understand", she is wrong. I was raised during the depression, with five siblings, with help from no one. Raised in poverty. My parents were not educated but they were smart enough to manage on their own. Also they were "responsible enough to do it.

29 posted on 07/20/2002 6:41:26 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: freeper12
The welfare system was put into place as a stepping stone to help citizens in need build better lives and become more educated, more qualified and better able to provide for themselves and their families.

Too bad it didn't work out this way. Many of the 'welfare' moms don't want to get a job or an education.
Isn't it a shame that many have spoiled this system for the few that want to make it work.

On another tack, why does this woman have two small children and yet no husband. I realize that she says she is divorced but this makes no difference to the children or the situation.

30 posted on 07/20/2002 6:41:31 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: TheOtherOne
NO--that's not what I said. But it is often the excuse used to support divorce. Just like the excuse used by pro-choice people that "it is better to abort than for the mother to burn the child's hands on the stove"
(as if all mothers that choose life are going to burn their kids)
Abuse is intolerable...but it is not the reason why 50% or more marraiges end in divorce.
31 posted on 07/20/2002 6:44:08 AM PDT by two23
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To: freeper12
Our state is in need of teachers and nurses, yet I can't get financial assistance with child care because the state does not support four-year education. If I wanted to go to a two-year school to be a hairdresser, great. On the other hand, is this a stable career that can support a family while providing dental and medical benefits?

Gosh, life is filled with hard choices, now isn't it? As as one whose hairdresser -- a single mother -- has supported her daughter in such a vocation for the last fourteen years, and without the benefit of being on the government dole, the answer is:

YES!

Now quit bitching, Cheryl and go to work. Maybe you should have thought of all this before you got naked and did the dastardly deed.

32 posted on 07/20/2002 6:44:27 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: zandtar
Bravo, my friend....BRAVO...That was definately the post of the week as far as I'm concerned.
33 posted on 07/20/2002 6:45:38 AM PDT by One4Indictment
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To: freeper12
Another thing. You have to wonder what she's studying in college. If my hunch is correct, it's some useless feel-good crap like "Women's Studies" or "Cross-Discipline General Education" which will cost thousands and qualify her for a job holding down a bus stop bench. But she'll get her taxpayer-funded baccalaureate so she can find work as a low-level bureaucrat somewhere and move from Semi-Pro Mooch into the professional ranks.
34 posted on 07/20/2002 6:46:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: two23
Abuse is intolerable...but it is not the reason why 50% or more marraiges end in divorce.

agreed

35 posted on 07/20/2002 6:46:41 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: buccaneer81
Nothing new here. Just the typical selfish American woman in her 20s 0r 30s who thinks marriage is easily disposed of with few negative consequences

This was my point too but another poster assumed that I was suggesting that the woman was in an abusive relationship and should not have divorced. Most divorces are NOT because of abuse, but because "one or both" partners are "not HAPPY". ahhhh---the license didn't come with a "happy" guarentee.

36 posted on 07/20/2002 6:49:01 AM PDT by two23
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To: freeper12
Where's dad? Extended family? Sexual restraint? Conscience? ie., "Gee, it don't seem quite right that I'm makin' someone else pay for my mess". (OK, the last one is a stretch in the post-modern age).

Yeah, Chrystel, life is one tricky mutha. All the harder with yer head up yer bum.

37 posted on 07/20/2002 6:52:47 AM PDT by Old Fud
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To: freeper12
Like I need a box of opportunistic parts.
38 posted on 07/20/2002 6:53:23 AM PDT by apochromat
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To: freeper12
In the same knee-jerk vein as other replies I see on this thread, I'd tell the woman: Dump the kids. Get on a bus and never return.
39 posted on 07/20/2002 7:21:20 AM PDT by tangerine
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To: freeper12
She wants more than the average family that works their butt off just to make ends meet. Give me a break.

Her husband see the kids when ever he wants. (no support)
She wants offices to arrange their schedule around her (she is the center of her own universe)
Sounds like she would like a bus to pick her up at her front door, drop her kids off at day care wait for her, drive her back to day care, stop at the grocery store so she can spend her food stamps on a nice juicy steak.
Then the bus can drop her kids off at day care (again) take her to school while she gets a liberal education, and go
into politics and make it even easier for other poor misfortunate people like her....

Dam...... where do I sign up?

40 posted on 07/20/2002 7:30:02 AM PDT by just me
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