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Ancient Atomic Warfare - Religious texts and geological evidence
New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947 ^ | New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947 | Ivan T. Sanderson

Posted on 07/22/2002 2:01:00 PM PDT by vannrox

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An old read. But fun and interesting never the less.
1 posted on 07/22/2002 2:01:01 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
but most LDG exists in smaller, angular pieces--looking like shards left when a giant green bottle was smashed by colossal forces.

Barfight of the Titans!

2 posted on 07/22/2002 2:07:21 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: vannrox
The byproduct of the first atomic bomb is the original man-made mineral: Trinitite, named for the Trinity blast.
3 posted on 07/22/2002 2:12:50 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: vannrox
Kinda dovetails with Zecharia Sitchin's theories.....
4 posted on 07/22/2002 2:14:56 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: vannrox
bttt
5 posted on 07/22/2002 2:16:23 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: vannrox
Obviously formed when a Gao'uld mother ship attacked Earth 10,500 years ago...
6 posted on 07/22/2002 2:16:53 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: vannrox
Rather than evidence of an atomic past, I think it may be evidence of a time-traveling future, which means we now have a time-traveling past and present, which is all very confusing.
7 posted on 07/22/2002 2:21:03 PM PDT by dead
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To: Pistias
"These corridors or "streets" have a rubbly surface, rather like that of a "speedway" track, formed by angular gravel and red loamy weathering debris overlying Nubian sandstone"

Could have been a bar fight. After somebody lost big shekels on the Sahara 500 stock chariot race. parsy.
8 posted on 07/22/2002 2:21:09 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: vannrox
an incredible heat output of ninety-three degrees Celsius. This is five times the previous hottest temperature for a contained gas and is twice the minimum heat needed for fusion, but it was held only for one fifty-millionth of a second instead of the one full second which would be required.

A whole 93C...wow. Whoops, gotta go--the fusion torch on my stove is doing a number on my soup...

9 posted on 07/22/2002 2:21:31 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: pabianice
Those Celts really got around! ;-)
10 posted on 07/22/2002 2:23:05 PM PDT by SubMareener
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To: dead
Maybe we're all on some sort of reel to reel do-loop, and God just hasn't gotten around to changing the tape yet...
11 posted on 07/22/2002 2:24:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: Don Myers
Bump
12 posted on 07/22/2002 2:27:00 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: vannrox
Hey, vannrox - heve you been to Nexus Magazine? Although they have some rather tinfoil articles in there, I saw this there some time ago. I'd like it if you would check out this article as well. Your opinion on it would be welcome - as would any others willing to read through all three parts.....
13 posted on 07/22/2002 2:27:02 PM PDT by 11B3
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To: vannrox
I don't know if this theory is true, but if it is they'll find some way to blame it on the Republicans.
14 posted on 07/22/2002 2:27:06 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: vannrox
Fantastic reading....thanks for the post.
15 posted on 07/22/2002 2:27:34 PM PDT by Icthus
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To: vannrox
Bump for a later read. Thanks.
16 posted on 07/22/2002 2:31:24 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Pistias
A whole 93C...wow. Whoops, gotta go--the fusion torch on my stove is doing a number on my soup...

Hot stuff. And I bet you left it running for more than a second, too...

17 posted on 07/22/2002 2:33:50 PM PDT by general_re
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To: pabianice
Obviously formed when a Gao'uld mother ship attacked Earth 10,500 years ago

Seems like overkill for conquering an 8000 BC civilization. Although maybe the Asgard had a base here...

18 posted on 07/22/2002 2:43:07 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: vannrox
Meteor Clue To End Of Middle East Civilisations Found
The Telegraph of London
11-4-01

Scientists have found the first evidence that a devastating meteor impact in the Middle East might have triggered the mysterious collapse of civilisations more than 4,000 years ago.

Studies of satellite images of southern Iraq have revealed a two-mile-wide circular depression which scientists say bears all the hallmarks of an impact crater. If confirmed, it would point to the Middle East being struck by a meteor with the violence equivalent to hundreds of nuclear bombs.

Today's crater lies on what would have been shallow sea 4,000 years ago, and any impact would have caused devastating fires and flooding.

The catastrophic effect of these could explain the mystery of why so many early cultures went into sudden decline around 2300 BC.

...snip...

The crater also appears to be, in geological terms, very recent. Dr Master said: "The sediments in this region are very young, so whatever caused the crater-like structure, it must have happened within the past 6,000 years."

Reporting his finding in the latest issue of the journal Meteoritics & Planetary Science, Dr Master suggests that a recent meteor impact is the most plausible explanation for the structure.

A survey of the crater itself could reveal tell-tale melted rock. "If we could find fragments of impact glass, we could date them using radioactive dating techniques," he said.
Rense


19 posted on 07/22/2002 3:13:47 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: vannrox
its a cool sci-fi premise :) But really.. trinitite contains radioactivity.. even if the radioactivity had faded away, there would still be traces of the heavy isotopes locked within the glass.. Unless perhaps, it was an ultra clean blast like that of tsar bomba..
20 posted on 07/22/2002 3:21:23 PM PDT by aSkeptic
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To: vannrox
Ivan Sanderson alert !!

Get your vitrified helmet liners out of storage , and don ( Donna for you ladies ) them immediately !!!

COPROLITE ALERT !!

22 posted on 07/22/2002 4:24:04 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; sourcery
fyi
23 posted on 07/22/2002 4:56:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: rdb3
Rod, check this out. Have you ever heard of a book called Did Genesis Man Conquer Space? This person must have read it too.
24 posted on 07/22/2002 4:59:20 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: blam
ping!
25 posted on 07/22/2002 5:06:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: vannrox
This was written pretty much in the pre "asteroid impact wiped out the dinosaurs" era, wasn't it? Velikovsky didn't publish his Worlds in Collision until 1950. After that there was a backlash against the idea of worldwide catastrophe. It appears that such folks as Baille have come up with a better explanation of these physical and legendary data.
26 posted on 07/22/2002 5:07:43 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Mark17
I've heard of it, but I hadn't read it.
27 posted on 07/22/2002 5:16:45 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: blam
BUMP!
28 posted on 07/22/2002 5:21:08 PM PDT by Cool Guy
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To: aruanan; Looking for Diogenes; Ernest_at_the_Beach; vannrox
All explained by comet/meteor impacts and Tunguska type events of various sizes.
29 posted on 07/22/2002 5:33:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: vannrox
It be dragons, fire breathing dragons Matey.
30 posted on 07/22/2002 5:39:15 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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I find this stuff interesting
thanks for posting it
and thanks for the comments (and links) by all
Love, Palo
31 posted on 07/22/2002 5:41:33 PM PDT by palo verde
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It be dragons, fire breathing dragons Matey.

See Mike Baille's From Exodus to Arthur to see just how many times fire-breathing dragons were used to describe phenomena consistent with meteoric/cometary impacts or close calls.
32 posted on 07/22/2002 6:06:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?
33 posted on 07/22/2002 6:14:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: genefromjersey
Get your vitrified helmet liners out of storage , and don ( Donna for you ladies ) them immediately !!!

Don's helmet liner isn't available, can I use Joe's instead?

34 posted on 07/22/2002 6:17:24 PM PDT by Poohbah
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What the article doesn't mention are the radioactive (yes radioactive) skeletons that have been found at Pakistan and Scottish archaeological sites.
35 posted on 07/22/2002 6:30:54 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Poohbah
bump
36 posted on 07/22/2002 6:39:52 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: vannrox
A noted scientist analysed the glass and found it to be melted Coca Cola bottles, circa 1956, hence the green color.
37 posted on 07/22/2002 7:29:28 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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"A noted scientist analysed the glass and found it to be melted Coca Cola bottles, circa 1956, hence the green color."

The Gods Must Be Crazy, huh?

38 posted on 07/22/2002 7:39:45 PM PDT by blam
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"What the article doesn't mention are the radioactive (yes radioactive) skeletons that have been found at Pakistan and Scottish archaeological sites.

Sources/links?

39 posted on 07/22/2002 7:41:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Thank you for that information, Diogenes.

A fine book on this very subject is "Fire On Earth" by John & Mary Gribbin. They maintain that asteroid and comet collisions have played major roles in shaping human history. I highly recommend it if you're interested in the subject.

These collisions are rather more frequent than most people believe but luckily most are small or at sea. Our planet is mostly water and the majority of objects striking the surface wouldn't be noticed at sea. It is only when a big one hits solid ground or in shallow waters that our attention is drawn.

40 posted on 07/22/2002 7:41:22 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: vannrox
"I'm not Capt. Walker. I'm the guy who keeps Mr. Dead in his
pocket."
41 posted on 07/22/2002 7:43:56 PM PDT by LRS
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Ahem, all of those italics are very hard on the eyes.
42 posted on 07/22/2002 7:58:10 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: vannrox
This proves that the Black Egyptians had the Bomb, and if it weren't for white racism, their culture would have triumphed and Cornel West would be Emperor of the World today.

< /sarcasm>

43 posted on 07/22/2002 8:08:21 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: vannrox
Glass is not a liquid, this is an urban legend.
44 posted on 07/22/2002 8:11:35 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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Ah, "The Tektite Problem".
Wasn't that solved by using "The Corbomite Manuever"?
45 posted on 07/22/2002 10:12:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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I like a good Atlantis legend as well as the next guy, but let's apply a little logic.

We have two patches of glass in the desert. One is round, the other is oval-shaped, but has the center gouged out of it. Which is the more likely explanation:

a) Some ancient people developed an advanced civilization, apparently without ever experiencing the worldwide population boom we've experienced, and without leaving any evidence behind whatsoever of any skyscrapers, modern-style roads or other modern-type structures. They developed nuclear weapons, and delivery systems (presumably missiles), yet all of these were somehow destroyed. They fired some kind of nuclear weapon that, by some unknown mechanism, created an oval-shaped glass patch, rather than a round one, and which in addition only created glass in a ring, leaving the center untouched.

Or, b) Sometime during the last million years or so, a somewhat structurally unstable meteor came into the earth's atmosphere at an angle above the desert. Shortly before impact, it split into two pieces. One piece exploded with violent heat very close to the earth, forming an oval glass patch in the desert, except for the center which was gouged out by a fragment. The other piece, perhaps larger, exploded a big higher and thus created an essentially circular patch.

46 posted on 07/22/2002 10:43:15 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: goody2shooz
Thanks for the recommendation. I've heard of "Fire on Earth," but haven't read it. I'll keep an eye out for it now.
47 posted on 07/22/2002 10:59:45 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: vannrox
I'm enjoying your recent reading adventures. Post away!
48 posted on 07/22/2002 11:05:43 PM PDT by smorgle
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To: Freedom4US
Your urban legend is about to be trumped by the Cornell Museum of Glass

The Cornell Museum of Glass

The Glassy State - In Brief

1. THE GLASSY STATE

Glass is a state of matter.

Glasses combine some properties of crystals and some of liquids but are distinctly different from both.

Glasses have the mechanical rigidity of crystals, but the random disordered arrangement of molecules that characterizes liquids.

Glasses are usually formed by melting crystalline materials at very high temperatures. When the melt cools, the atoms are locked into a random (disordered) state before they can form into a perfect crystal arrangement.

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My recollection of my college chemistry days weas that glass was considered "a supercooled liquid."

49 posted on 07/22/2002 11:16:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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"Kinda dovetails with Zecharia Sitchin's theories....."

And "A Canticle for Liebowitz"...

Beware of running into a fallout!
50 posted on 07/22/2002 11:16:50 PM PDT by Axenolith
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