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Snakehead Fish in 7 States, U.S. to Ban Them
Reuters ^ | July 22, 2002 | Tom Doggett

Posted on 07/22/2002 7:30:13 PM PDT by Shermy

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Here's two stories about the fish in Maryland. Looks like their aim is to take over the country.

June 27
Freakish fish with monstrous appetite causes fear in Maryland (Frankenfish walks; eats anything)

July 12
Meat-Eating Fish From China Introduced to Maryland Waters by Pet Owner

1 posted on 07/22/2002 7:30:13 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Aren't they called "Congressmen" by the socialist media hacks?
2 posted on 07/22/2002 7:32:57 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: aculeus; mhking; Lake; Black Agnes; mercy; Hacksaw; Sabertooth; NC_Libertarian; Catspaw; Illbay; ...
Frankenfish update ping.
3 posted on 07/22/2002 7:37:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Vidalia
Same skin texture:


4 posted on 07/22/2002 7:38:22 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
If you want to catch a big catfish use a one pound carp,if you want to catch a really big catfish use a three pound carp.
5 posted on 07/22/2002 7:38:54 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Shermy
Lord, I hope they never make it to the Great Lakes. We already have enough problems with Zebra mussels.
6 posted on 07/22/2002 7:39:10 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Shermy
That almost looks like a grennel.
7 posted on 07/22/2002 7:40:04 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Shermy

King Snakehead's reaction to the news

8 posted on 07/22/2002 7:42:51 PM PDT by lsee
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To: Vidalia
I'd imagine that the fish has a higher body temperature. A brain size comparison might be interesting.
9 posted on 07/22/2002 7:43:49 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: Shermy
BREAKING: CNN is reporting that Janet Reno has asked the Snakehead Fish to be her Lieutenant Governor should she win the Florida race ... developing ...
10 posted on 07/22/2002 7:45:20 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Shermy
The fish has primarily been imported to the United States for its excellent taste, even when eaten smoked or dried.

There's the up side. Provided it really does taste excellent.

11 posted on 07/22/2002 7:50:33 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: rintense
You spoke too soon:

Asian carp threaten to invade Lake Michigan, harm native fish

Experts hope barrier will keep species out of Great Lakes

By MEG JONES
of the Journal Sentinel staff
Last Updated: July 11, 2002

Asian carp, a humongous plankton-gobbling fish that has been dubbed the underwater lawn mower, is getting so close to Lake Michigan that scientists worry it could wipe out sport fish in the Great Lakes.

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Giant fish heading this way

Nervous authorities are hoping an electric barrier on a canal near Chicago will prevent the fish from dipping a fin in the Great Lakes.

The Asian carp, which made its way into the Mississippi River from Arkansas fish farms in the 1970s, steadily has swum upstream for years at a pace of 40 to 50 miles a year. It's now near the Quad Cities on the Mississippi and may be only 25 miles from Lake Michigan on the Illinois River.

It can grow so big - more than 100 pounds and four feet long - that it quickly out-muscles any predators. It can jump as high as 15 feet and has broken the nose of at least one commercial angler. It snacks on plankton - the base of the aquatic food chain - at a pace of two to three times its weight each day. That doesn't leave much for other creatures to eat.

While scientists have no idea if Asian carp could survive in the Great Lakes, they don't want to find out.

"The worst case is that they would find it very suitable and very much to their liking, and they would grow to huge population numbers and compete with sport fish like yellow perch, walleye and smallmouth bass," said John Rogner, field supervisor of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service office in Chicago.

Quick action urged

On Thursday, a Canadian-American organization that regulates border waters urged officials in both countries to take action to prevent Asian carp from swimming into the Great Lakes. The International Joint Commission called on authorities to make permanent the electric barrier, which was installed in April to prevent another non-native species from traveling from Lake Michigan into the Illinois River.

The temporary barrier near Romeoville, Ill., on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal, which is scheduled to be removed after 18 months, sends electric signals into the water and produces a tingling sensation that fish find uncomfortable.

To humans, it's similar to the feeling you get when bumping your funny bone, explained Pam Thiel, project leader at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's fishery resource office in La Crosse. The hope is that Asian carp that make it as far as the barrier will turn around.

The commission also recommended installing a second barrier of electricity, bubbles or sound waves on the Illinois River to act as a second fire break to keep out Asian carp. The second barrier could be located near the present one.

"We have a historic opportunity here," said Jim Houston, environmental adviser for the commission.

It's possible people who catch bait in the Mississippi or Illinois rivers could mistakenly introduce Asian carp when they're small by using the bait while fishing in the Great Lakes, Thiel said.

If Asian carp sneak into the Great Lakes, it could be just as devastating as the zebra mussel, another non-native species, Houston said in a phone interview from Ottawa, Canada.

Millions of dollars have been spent to clean up after billions of quarter-sized zebra mussels that attach themselves to ships, docks and other mussels. Houston said any money spent on preventing Asian carp from invading Lake Michigan will end up being much less than the costs of carp decimating native fish populations.

Imported from China

With a face only an Asian carp mother could love, the fish was brought from China to Arkansas fish farms in the early 1970s to improve water quality and control algae blooms. The fish escaped when aquaculture ponds adjacent to the Mississippi River flooded about a decade ago.

Of the four species of Asian carp, two - bighead and silver - are the ones that are the problem in America. They dine on the plankton food supply of paddlefish, gizzard shad, big-mouth buffalo and other filter feeders. They also compete with larval and juvenile fish, and mussels.

Even though they're members of the minnow family, bighead and silver carp grow fast, and as they get bigger, need more to eat.

"Because they are very large, they have to consume large amounts (of plankton), so they're basically swimming around all day with their mouths open," Thiel said.

Between 1988 and 1992, the combined commercial harvest of bighead and silver carp by Illinois anglers in the Illinois and Mississippi rivers was less than 1,300 pounds, Thiel said. By 1994, the yearly catch was more than 51/2 tons, and since 1997 the annual catch has exceeded 55 tons.

Thiel ate Asian carp while visiting China. She said it tastes good, but she had difficulty comparing it to fish commonly consumed in America.

One thing different about the Asian carp here is its leaping ability. Asian carp in Asia aren't known for jumping high in the air like a tarpon.

They seem to be affected by the sound or vibration of motorboats, Rogner said.

Scientists have documented instances, and have the video to prove it, of Asian carp leaping into boats. Thiel heard of a commercial fisherman who got smacked in the face by a carp. A researcher has been hit four times by the carp he was researching, and the last time his injuries landed him on workman's disability.

Some commercial fishermen use cookie sheets as shields from the big flying fish, she said.

Thiel, who does research on the Mississippi River in La Crosse, figures she'll have to come up with a sturdier shield.

"I think if they get as far as La Crosse, I'll use a garbage can lid because it has handles," she said.

Appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on July 12, 2002.

12 posted on 07/22/2002 7:51:48 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: lsee
That's very funny!
13 posted on 07/22/2002 7:52:43 PM PDT by Mike K
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To: Catspaw
YIKES!!!! I have no desire to see that in Lake Michigan, let alone any of the Great Lakes.
14 posted on 07/22/2002 7:53:48 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Shermy
a ban on U.S. imports of the predatory fish . . .The snakehead, which can grow up to 3 feet long, eats other fish

It is probably not a good idea to import this thing but I bet this writer could conjure up some pretty terrifying descriptions of bass and pike if he put his mind to it.

15 posted on 07/22/2002 7:54:59 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Shermy
My alligators and alligator gar will enjoy the meal.
16 posted on 07/22/2002 7:57:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: Vidalia
Aren't they called "Congressmen" by the socialist media hacks?

Ahem...I believe it's "Congersmen", an appellation applied to Dumbocrap Congers persons.

Dumbocrap Congers persons are actually uglier than the Snake Head fish, eg. Leaky Leahy.

QED.

17 posted on 07/22/2002 7:59:15 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Shermy
Maryland officials are considering poisoning a small lake where at least 80 baby snakeheads have been found.

Someone should spill some Gramoxone (a restricted use herbicide) in the pond the next time they spray the weeds. That stuff will kill everything in the pond.

18 posted on 07/22/2002 7:59:46 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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I can think of one lake I'd like to drop a couple of these babies in.
19 posted on 07/22/2002 7:59:50 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: rintense
And it's awfully close to our beloved Lake Michigan.

I have no desire to go fishing carrying a garbage can lid to use as a shield.

20 posted on 07/22/2002 8:00:11 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: lsee
More like separated at birth:

 

21 posted on 07/22/2002 8:01:52 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Catspaw
Exactly! Let alone swim next to a fish that is bigger than most 6 year olds. Ick ick ick.
22 posted on 07/22/2002 8:02:55 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Shermy
The snakehead, which can grow up to 3 feet long, eats other fish and can walk across land to find new sources of food in other lakes and streams. The fish can stay out of water for up to three days.

Sounds like a good case for an unrestricted open season, no bag limits. Shotgun only in built up areas, otherwise anything goes, although a .22 rimfire or a varmit rifle would seem adequate. Handguns too of course. In fact, maybe only handguns would be fun.

With sharp teeth and powerful jaws, big snakeheads can bite other fish in half

But don't get too close. :)

23 posted on 07/22/2002 8:03:18 PM PDT by El Gato
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tHE ASIAN CARP,aka THE GRASS CARP,here in Lake Houston took its toll for a few years then guess what happened,they ate themselves out of existence.The aquatic growth used to be so bad you couldn't even get your boat out into deep water,the grass carp ate it all up,they starved to death,now that the few that remain,keep our waterways clear.
24 posted on 07/22/2002 8:05:53 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Vidalia
Aren't they called "Congressmen" by the socialist media hacks?

The description does sound a like cross between the two Senators from New York.

ugly wide mouth and heavy scales, making it look like a snake's head

25 posted on 07/22/2002 8:06:25 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Sounds like a good case for an unrestricted open season, no bag limits. Shotgun only in built up areas, otherwise anything goes, although a .22 rimfire or a varmit rifle would seem adequate. Handguns too of course. In fact, maybe only handguns would be fun.

Won't happen. It would give the serfs ideas.

26 posted on 07/22/2002 8:07:46 PM PDT by adx
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To: El Gato
We had some scrub guys on the lake I used to live on catch carp, put them in a plastic bag with an M-80, and toss them in the lake. Can't say as I like that, but in the case of this Asian Carp, I'm willing not to call the ASPCA.
27 posted on 07/22/2002 8:08:00 PM PDT by rintense
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To: eastforker
tHE ASIAN CARP,aka THE GRASS CARP,here in Lake Houston took its toll for a few years then guess what happened,they ate themselves out of existence.The aquatic growth used to be so bad you couldn't even get your boat out into deep water,the grass carp ate it all up,they starved to death,now that the few that remain,keep our waterways clear.

The "aquatic growth" is where Great Lakes fish hang out: panfish, perch, smallmouth bass, largemouth bass, walleye, northern....you get the idea. Once their cover is gone, they're gone. And the perch population is almost decimated for other reasons as it is.

28 posted on 07/22/2002 8:12:53 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Ford Fairlane
Someone should spill some Gramoxone (a restricted use herbicide) in the pond the next time they spray the weeds. That stuff will kill everything in the pond.

Naaah. Just have Rosie O'Donut take a bath in there. No empty drums to dispose of, and you can just roll her over to the next contaminated body of water and start over again.

29 posted on 07/22/2002 8:22:04 PM PDT by strela
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To: Catspaw

Millions of dollars have been spent to clean up after billions of quarter-sized zebra mussels that attach themselves to ships, docks and other mussels.

With all the genetic research occurring perhaps a marine biologist will create a carp that eats zebra mussels and not plankton.

30 posted on 07/22/2002 8:23:24 PM PDT by Zon
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To: mhking
When a snakehead drags a $100 bill through
a trailer park and this is what it gets:


31 posted on 07/22/2002 8:25:02 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Zon
With all the genetic research occurring perhaps a marine biologist will create a carp that eats zebra mussels and not plankton.

Wouldn't that be nice? Then I wouldn't cut up my feet when I walk in rocky areas near the water. They'll even cut my tootsies when I'm wearing sandals.

But I just don't think this is the carp that's going to eat only the zebras and not wipe out the weedbeds we need to keep to have good game fishing.

32 posted on 07/22/2002 8:29:29 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Shermy
Interesting to find one illegal immigrant group which the U.S. government is quick to ban. They sure don't worry about the threats OUT of the water.
33 posted on 07/22/2002 8:36:08 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Catspaw
I guess it would be too simple to make the guy who released the fish responsible for catching all of them. Anyone know who he is? If not, I imagine law enforcement agencies are searching, right?
34 posted on 07/22/2002 8:39:10 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Catspaw

With all the genetic research occurring perhaps a marine biologist will create a carp that eats zebra mussels and not plankton.

But I just don't think this is the carp that's going to eat only the zebras and not wipe out the weedbeds we need to keep to have good game fishing.

If somebody -- perhaps a marine biologist -- creates the right genetically controlled carp it will exist. I don't understand what specific "this carp" is that you speak of.

35 posted on 07/22/2002 8:41:50 PM PDT by Zon
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To: henderson field
I think they have a pretty good idea who it is from this paragraph in the story:

With a face only an Asian carp mother could love, the fish was brought from China to Arkansas fish farms in the early 1970s to improve water quality and control algae blooms. The fish escaped when aquaculture ponds adjacent to the Mississippi River flooded about a decade ago.

Making them clean it up is another matter. I don't know how they'd prove from which ponds the fish escaped & they'd all deny it.

Either way, it'd be a horrendous mess if they get into Lake Michigan and start reproducing. From Lake Michigan, it's into Lake Superior, Lake Huron, Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. (BTW, you can send me my gold star for naming all five Great Lakes without looking it up--and I DID NOT include Lake Champlain.)

36 posted on 07/22/2002 8:43:21 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Zon
The carp that's trying to work its way into the Great Lakes from the Mississippi River from one of my previous posts. Just scroll up.
37 posted on 07/22/2002 8:44:13 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Shermy
Years ago I remember hearing about the walking catfish. They could leave a pond or stream that had dried up & walk to another one. Is this the same fish?
38 posted on 07/22/2002 9:02:52 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Catspaw
I have no desire to go fishing carrying a garbage can lid to use as a shield.

Oh, but think of the fish stories you could tell!

There I was, no sh!t, trident in one hand, garbage lid-- er, SHIELD in the other. Slowly he circled my boat..."

39 posted on 07/22/2002 9:16:36 PM PDT by BradyLS
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To: Shermy
Wahhabifish.
40 posted on 07/22/2002 10:14:58 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Shermy
This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard. They almost sound like demon fish. Can fish be demonic? (Just kidding, I think....)
41 posted on 07/22/2002 11:49:58 PM PDT by DBtoo
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There I was, no sh!t, trident in one hand, garbage lid-- er, SHIELD in the other. Slowly he circled my boat..."

Ah, memories of my Uncle Bill spearing carp in the ditches around my grandpa's land when they came in to spawn....

42 posted on 07/23/2002 6:00:40 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Shermy
I think its time we released some God awful creature in these f*cked up countries where this crap comes from....damn japanese beetles and all this other crap...what is the most hostile freaking creature we can send these lizards?

the southeastern farting crocogator.

43 posted on 07/23/2002 6:28:53 AM PDT by galt-jw
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To: Shermy
A little bit of ChiCom economic sabotage?
44 posted on 07/23/2002 6:47:18 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: henderson field
The Maryland DNR and State Police found out who dumped the fish into the pond. They have not released his name, but he dumped two one-foot long Snakeheads into the pond about two years ago. Unfortunatly, the statute of limitations is only two years for what ever they were going to charge him with, and they are not going to press charges.

This pond was my secret bass and pike pond until someone caught one of these snakeheads this spring. The pond is located off of Maryland Rt. 3 in Crofton behind the Dunkin Donuts and the strip Mall. For a while this pond was a zoo. Hundreds of people would come and try and catch the snakeheads, but now the DNR has the pond closed while they try and figure out what to do with these fish. They are afraid that if they drain or poison the pond that the snakeheads, who can breath out of the water for up to three days and can kinda walk on their fins, will walk out of the pond and over the 50 yards through the woods to the Patuxent River. This river leads to the Chesapeake Bay, but luckily the snakehead, if it does get to the river can not live in the saltier waters of the bay.

Right now I believe that the DNR is going to put a herbicide into the lake that will kill all of the plants and then they are going to use some chemical that bonds to fish gills and prevents them from breathing. It should happen soon, like early August. Unfortunatly, my secret fishing hole, will never be the same again, now that everyone knows that this was the pond where the dreaded Killer Snakefish lived. But thats okay, I have other secret fishing places. :)
45 posted on 07/23/2002 6:47:46 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: Shermy; KayEyeDoubleDee; All
The fish has primarily been imported to the United States for its excellent taste, even when eaten smoked or dried.

If it tastes better than bass [or more generally, the sunfish family - BLECCH!!!], then why not import the damn thing. Largemouth bass are some of the most disgusting fish on the face of the earth.

I'd only be worried if it started to supplant the catfish population.

46 posted on 07/23/2002 8:15:26 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
I've actually run into people that claim to like eating bass.
48 posted on 07/23/2002 8:28:05 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: BradyLS
LMAO, That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day!
49 posted on 07/23/2002 8:30:00 AM PDT by aglax
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To: Shermy
Does that mean I can start trolling for them from my car? That'd be fun!
50 posted on 07/23/2002 8:31:31 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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