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To: Emmylou
But what about people who are comfortable and fulfilled in gay relationships?

Of course this is an anectdotal tale.The author essentially says: I once was a homosexual. Something happened to me that changed me. I am no longer a homosexual. This can happen to others as well.

So what about the others who are "comfortable and fulfilled"? According to this guy even when they say that they are not truly happy or fulfilled. Who is he to judge? Well his word carries more weight than most of us since he was a homosexual for many years and is delighted with the change.

Just because it is anecdotal doesn't mean it has no value. On the contrary here is a convert from homosexuality that wants others to find what he has found! I think the article has created quite a stir as the WorldNet.com web site is jammed to capacity and has been for a few hours. I'm hoping that many in the homosexual lifestyle find this forgiveness that Stephen found and walk away from this bondage.

You see clubs that form around being fat and proud of it. Do you actually believe them? Or do you suspect that they are trying to promote their own self-esteem? I know what I think, that there is an ideal happiness in Jesus and this man was fortunate enough to find it.

Many won't and they'll profess to be very happy. That doesn't change this man's testimony to being delighted with Jesus and the new life he's been given. I have found the same new life in Jesus and know of what he is talking about. I'm not going back to where I was either, which at the time was the hippie drug culture.

28 posted on 07/23/2002 10:35:59 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan
So what about the others who are "comfortable and fulfilled"? According to this guy even when they say that they are not truly happy or fulfilled. Who is he to judge? Well his word carries more weight than most of us since he was a homosexual for many years and is delighted with the change.

Well, then, my word should carry as much weight as his: I am a homosexual, am comfortable and fulfilled in my (homosexual) relationship of many years standing, and think that people who say I'm not comfortable and fulfilled based on their experience don't know my mind.

You see clubs that form around being fat and proud of it. Do you actually believe them? Or do you suspect that they are trying to promote their own self-esteem? I know what I think, that there is an ideal happiness in Jesus and this man was fortunate enough to find it.

So you only believe anecdotal testimony from those whose position supports what you were inclined to believe before they even opened their mouths? It doesn't sound to me as if you really care what people say about themselves -- you already know better than they do!

31 posted on 07/23/2002 10:58:34 AM PDT by Fethiye
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To: ThirstyMan
I think the message that he's putting forward is that for many homoesexuals, change is possible. Studies (including recent ones) have certainly shown that. I've met a lot of homosexuals who wish they were straight and could live lives with wives and children. It's horrendous to not even allow people to tell them that change might be possible for them - yet those who do are excoriated by the homosexual community.
87 posted on 07/23/2002 2:04:25 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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