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Report: Children Given Viagra for Lung Disease
Reuters ^ | Tue Jul 23, 1:30 PM ET

Posted on 07/23/2002 3:54:10 PM PDT by anymouse

Doctors are giving infants and babies the anti-impotence drug Viagra to save them from a life-threatening lung condition even though it has not been tested on children, a magazine said Tuesday.

The drug, produced by U.S. pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, has already been used to treat a small number of children with pulmonary hypertension (PHT) in India, the United States, Canada and Britain with promising results.

"Critics have expressed serious concern at the fact that no clinical trials have taken place for this use of the drug and at the wide variation in doses used," New Scientist magazine said in its online version.

Although the drug is approved for the treatment of impotence, doctors have found that it helps babies suffering from PHT, which affects 28,000 children and 250,000 adults in the United States alone.

The magazine said adults with PHT were already being enrolled in clinical trials of the drug. Studies on children could start in the next few months.

A spokesman for Pfizer said the company was considering using the drug to treat PHT, but could not comment on any clinical trails.

"We are seriously looking into the use of Viagra for PHT," he told Reuters.

Viagra was originally developed to treat angina by opening up blood vessels when doctors and patients discovered the impact it had on male sexual arousal.

PHT is a blood vessel disorder of the lung. In babies with the problem a bypass vessel used for fetal circulation fails to close after birth, depriving the child of oxygen.

Babies with PHT are usually put on a ventilator and given nitric oxide, but doctors who have used Viagra for PHT said it works better than nitric oxide and has fewer side-effects.

"At the moment it is given on a compassionate use basis agreed with the hospital's ethics board," said Ian Adatia, of Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children.

Adatia has given the drug to 10 children. Dr. PK Rajiv, of the Amrita Institute of Medical Sciences in Kochi, India, treated an eight-hour-old baby girl with the drug after other treatment failed.

"The child recovered in 48 hours and within a week two other newborns survived the same treatment," he told the magazine.

The use of Viagra in babies highlights the problem of giving drugs approved for adults to children. Very few drugs are tested on babies and children because it is not cost-effective for the pharmaceutical companies and parents are often reluctant to put their children in clinical trials for an untested treatment.

Children may also react to drugs differently from adults. Determining the correct dosage for a baby could also be difficult and infants could be more susceptible to toxic effects because of underdeveloped kidneys and livers.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: children; lungdisease; medicine; offlabel; pharmaceuticals; viagra
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"Honest, I just found this article in the Reuters science headline section," he says in his Austin Powers voice. :)
1 posted on 07/23/2002 3:54:10 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse
I'm not going to even attempt to make a comment on this. If it helps the kids, well then more power to them.

OTOH, these drug companies are out of control. Just like my attempt not to comment ... =)

2 posted on 07/23/2002 3:58:30 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: anymouse
Existing drugs once approved may legally be used by a doctor for any purpose. In fact, many important medical advances occur this way. In cancer treatment, oncologists doing this kind of thing are 10 years ahead of standard treatments. Yes, there is higher risk, but many patients would rather take a risk than suffer or die with inadequate existing therapies. The real scandal is the long delay in FDA approval of new drugs. In this case we see smart physicians using the circulation increasing characteristics of Viagra to help children in desperate straits.
3 posted on 07/23/2002 4:00:52 PM PDT by thucydides
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To: thucydides
The real scandal is the long delay in FDA approval of new drugs.

I agree. On this I am a libertarian. I would rather that my physician, in consultation with my family, be free to use whatever drugs (excluding those illegal due to abuse) he sees as best.

There also is a scandal in drugs being taken off the market by the FDA because some patients died from them, even though they are needed by certain other patients to live. My wife's father, an intelligent man, has been having trouble with diabetes control since a drug he used to take was removed from the market. Why shouldn't he and his doctor be free to judge the risks and benefits themselves?

4 posted on 07/23/2002 4:27:36 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: thucydides
The use of Viagra in babies highlights the problem that of giving drugs approved for adults to children. Very few drugs are tested on babies and children because it is not cost-effective for the pharmaceutical companies and parents are often reluctant to put their children in clinical trials for an untested treatment.
It also highlights the fact that lack of FDA approval doesn't prove that a therapy does not work--and that
"Desperate ills are by desperate measures cured, or not at all."
And that throws the liberal "zero risk" conceit into a cocked hat.

5 posted on 07/23/2002 4:29:19 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
that throws the liberal "zero risk" conceit into a cocked hat

I am glad to see here the idea the "zero risk" is a liberal concept, since I some other threads I had seen FR'ers taking when seemed to me extremely risk-adverse positions. Although medicine should be "evidence based" as much as possible, a doctor could not stay in business if he only did what was exhaustively proven.

How about this one? People are not willing to be, to some extent, experimental subjects, hardly deserve to benefit from the sacrifices of past human experimental subjects.

6 posted on 07/23/2002 4:36:51 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: anymouse
The boy's mother... "Doctor, I thought this pill would help Jimmy breathe. [as the boy is choking] But how can he breathe with that thing poking him in the throat?"
7 posted on 07/23/2002 4:37:08 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: thucydides
In cancer treatment, oncologists doing this kind of thing are 10 years ahead of standard treatments.

The same thing occurs in psychiatry, except there I've been told they're a good TWENTY years ahead of their treatments being "officially approved" by any self-appointed medical standards organization or the FDA. (The key, though, is make sure your psychiatrist is a psychopharmacologist. That means they're infinitely more versed in the pros and cons of each medication or mixture of medications, and keep up with every major new development that anybody reports anywhere. Your run-of-the-mill shrink or psychologist will generally just pick one of the big-name drugs at random and see if it works for you, and just keep bouncing you from drug to drug until one of them shows an effect. Or, worse, they may just prescribe for you whatever they have a ton of samples of in their closet.

8 posted on 07/23/2002 4:37:21 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Steve Eisenberg
There also is a scandal in drugs being taken off the market by the FDA because some patients died from them, even though they are needed by certain other patients to live. My wife's father, an intelligent man, has been having trouble with diabetes control since a drug he used to take was removed from the market. Why shouldn't he and his doctor be free to judge the risks and benefits themselves?

Generally, such drugs continue to be marketed overseas, and I'm pretty sure it's legal for you to import any non-FDA-approved medication from another country as long as you're only ordering enough for your own use.

9 posted on 07/23/2002 4:40:57 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The grammar of my last post was so hideous that I will try again.

that throws the liberal "zero risk" conceit into a cocked hat

I'm glad to see here the idea that "zero risk" is a liberal concept. Although medicine should be evidence-based as much as possible, a doctor could not stay in business if he only said and did what was exhaustively proven to work.

How about this one? People unwilling to be, to some extent, experimental subjects, hardly deserve to benefit from the sacrifices of past human experimental subjects.

10 posted on 07/23/2002 4:41:24 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
I understand the horrible Thalidomide itself, which caused birth defects, is the ideal drug for certain conditions, provided pregnant women are not involved. It was the failure of the FDA to act on Thalidomide that put them in the position of being able to endlessly delay everything. In a bureaucracy, approval of anything that turns out to have problems is bad. Endless delays that kill thousands are just fine, because there are no visible victims that can be identified.
11 posted on 07/23/2002 4:42:51 PM PDT by thucydides
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To: Timesink
Generally, such drugs continue to be marketed overseas, and I'm pretty sure it's legal for you to import any non-FDA-approved medication from another country as long as you're only ordering enough for your own use.

Thank you for the idea. However, my father-in-law, like me, would not act behind my physicians' backs. I know that it is common for patients to take drugs without telling their doctor, but it certainly is a bad business.

12 posted on 07/23/2002 4:48:53 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: thucydides
My dad takes thalidomide daily to keep his cancer in check, and it works great where interferon failed.
13 posted on 07/23/2002 4:49:04 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: anymouse
Doctors are giving infants and babies the anti-impotence drug Viagra to save them from a life-threatening lung condition...

...plus, makes the bris so much easier...
14 posted on 07/23/2002 5:07:54 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: thucydides
It was the failure of the FDA to act on Thalidomide that put them in the position of being able to endlessly delay everything.

The thalidomide babies were not American. U.S. drug approval procedures were already then sufficient to protect us from this, and yet have become far more stringent over time.

To make a long story short, the thalidomide situation with morning sickness was unique. We now know that pregnant women with non-serious illnesses should not be very early adopters of new drugs which block formation of blood vessels. Overly broad lessons have been drawn from that tradegy.

15 posted on 07/23/2002 5:17:06 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
I'm glad to see here the idea that "zero risk" is a liberal concept.
American Conservatism conserves the American tradition of freedom to innovate--not the status quo. What is "zero risk" but the conceit of absolute protection in the herd?
People unwilling to be, to some extent, experimental subjects, hardly deserve to benefit from the sacrifices of past human experimental subjects.
They are also pretty weird, in that there's no such thing as ultimate physical safety in this life--eventually we'll all reach the "desperate ill" stage.

Those who think the status quo is safety, must think that there is a cure for Alzheimer's Disease. There isn't, you know--and it's far too common in octagenarians to merit complacency.


16 posted on 07/23/2002 5:45:29 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Britton J Wingfield
My dad takes thalidomide daily to keep his cancer in check, and it works great where interferon failed.

Yes. It is also good for a form of leprosy. And yet it was illegal in the U.S. until recently, on the ridiculous theory that it might be accidentally prescribed to a pregnant woman in face of all the publicity about the tragic side effect. In fact, ever since the thalidomide tragedy was decisively publicized, there have been zero additional thalidomide babies, even though some countries, including Israel, never took it off the market but rather trusted the good sense of their nation's physicians. Here is a good link:

The Right Lesson To Learn From Thalidomide

17 posted on 07/23/2002 5:55:13 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: anymouse
Guess they are going to have design a new diaper, perhaps with a pleated front panel.
18 posted on 07/23/2002 6:14:23 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Many older male smokers have cut down their circulation levels, to the point that using Viagra helps them retain erectile abilities.

Perhaps these same people are functioning as a fairly large study group that will reveal measureable improvement in their lung function, as well as other circulation related diseases, as was originally intended.
19 posted on 07/23/2002 6:29:57 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: the_doc
FYI
20 posted on 07/23/2002 6:32:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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