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Police State, American Style
LFET ^ | Russell Madden

Posted on 07/24/2002 8:09:58 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

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81 posted on 07/25/2002 11:26:06 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Sir Gawain
Totaltarianism is the normalization of oppression, on both the government and social levels. My examples:

People in the workplace having to hide thier romantic involvement, eventually surpising co-workers with announcement of thier marriage, due to the lurking threat of the sexual harrassment culture.

The astounding thing is people TOLERATE this.

Every business enterprise being subject to license.

Abortion and circumcision, both a violation of the hypocratic oath.

Public schooling. A crusher of minds and potential. A communist abomination.

Fear of police. Distrust of the courts.

Knowlege that you best not make enemies of those in power.

82 posted on 07/25/2002 3:23:19 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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To: Texasforever
Oh come on! Very weak not to mention transparent.

Yes, that was exactly my point. I'm glad you picked up on it.

83 posted on 07/25/2002 5:49:21 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Texasforever
Trying to define a "conservative" is as fruitful as a blind man describing an elephant.

That's because there are no fundamental principles on which the "conservative" movement stands. Conservatives succumb to pragmatism and are reconciled to continuous compromise with the liberals while attempting to conserve the liberal agenda they gave in to ten years before.

84 posted on 07/25/2002 5:52:39 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: FreedomFriend
I'm not a Libertarian, but a TRUE Conservative, and I agree with much of the article. My disagreement comes with talk on drugs and pornography, but it is based on certain stipulatory reasons.

I'll agree that there are individual bits and pieces of truth in the commentary, but they are wrapped in a rant that ruins whatever good points could have come from them. For instance, I agree that the Republicans aren't reversing gun control as I wish that they would. However, they aren't expanding it and haven't even done some things that President Bush suggested that he would support during the campaign. I wish that we were making much more progress on this front, but the fact that we aren't doesn't make the United States a police state.

I agree with you on pornography and drugs. I wouldn't try to ban everything that falls under the category of pornography, but I would ban child pornography no matter how it is produced. (See Don't Protect This Trash.) I'm not totally closed to some libertarian arguments on drugs, but neither do I feel obligated to change my mind and support drug legalization.

WFTR
Bill

85 posted on 07/25/2002 6:30:28 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: pariah
Good post. Interesting points.
86 posted on 07/25/2002 6:32:25 PM PDT by WFTR
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87 posted on 07/27/2002 1:08:46 PM PDT by USA21
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