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Democrats won't question Rubin
Washington Times ^ | 7/25/02 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 07/24/2002 11:24:23 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:55:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Senate Democrats investigating the collapse of Enron Corp. said yesterday that they have no plans to question former Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, a top official at Citigroup Inc., over its role in hiding Enron's debt from investors.

"I don't," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, when asked whether he intended to call Mr. Rubin as a witness.


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1 posted on 07/24/2002 11:24:23 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
First Traficant now this. Too bad Nixon's dead.
2 posted on 07/24/2002 11:29:35 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: kattracks
Where is that loose cannon bit bull DeLay when we really need him? Surely the House has some interest in visiting with Rubin, if only to just say hello, and by the way, what do you know about prepaid round trip commodity sales that seem to be sort of like loans, which your bank then hedged, and seemed to be marketing with a selling poitn that seemed to be focused on helping needy clinets circumvent GAAP. Sort of like the friendly chat you engage in when you meet a neighbor at the mall kind of thing.
3 posted on 07/24/2002 11:29:56 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
It SHOULD be Hammer Time.
4 posted on 07/24/2002 11:31:33 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Torie
I won't hold my breath waiting for a grilling by the House. The Repubs should make a real scene over this to hopefully enlighten a few more voters that this is all a big partisan ploy. The 'Rats are just milking the issue and its working. Once again I wait to see a little spine and/or balls on the Repub side and know that nothing will happen.
5 posted on 07/24/2002 11:48:15 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin
Hey Miss Marple ... your dream may come true

I 'm just glad FINALLY the someone in the press reported on Rubin's name
6 posted on 07/25/2002 12:02:52 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: kattracks
Rubin is the key and republicans had better get some guts and nail him to the wall.
The rats do want to impeach The President. While we play softball? Hummmm
7 posted on 07/25/2002 12:18:00 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
The House will bring these Rat evil do`rs before Congress...the question is , will it be reported? The bigger outrage is how in the hell any honest banker could keep giving these crooks money?
8 posted on 07/25/2002 1:36:47 AM PDT by bybybill
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9 posted on 07/25/2002 1:45:14 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: kattracks
Mr. Lott said reports that the banks may have helped Enron hide debt in offshore arrangements "need to be explored."

"need to be explored." about like our panty waist GOP explored the Clinton's pardons, selling missiles to the Chinese, renting the Lincoln bedroom, Reno's Obstruction of Justice dept. etc. etc. etc.. I expect, based on past history, that thats about the most we will hear from our fearless leader Lott of nothing.

10 posted on 07/25/2002 3:05:40 AM PDT by putupon
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the links!

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11 posted on 07/25/2002 3:16:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
Gladly- I found plenty of Sachs links here on FR, but ran into a memory error... I think clicking on the "next" will bring them up. If only the "watchdog press" would pay attention to this stuff...
12 posted on 07/25/2002 3:23:09 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: kattracks
Screw having the Senate or House question him. I want a Grand Jury to question him.
13 posted on 07/25/2002 3:56:49 AM PDT by Dales
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To: kattracks
I'm shocked. Not.
14 posted on 07/25/2002 3:58:12 AM PDT by rintense
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To: kattracks
"Mr. Corzine has denied inflating stock prices while chairman of Goldman Sachs and said investors make their own decisions about whether to buy stocks at certain prices."

YO, bleeding heart Phil Donahue!! How bout this for compassion? You and democrats would have chewed up and spit out a republican for such heartlessness.

15 posted on 07/25/2002 4:00:09 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: kattracks
I wonder if Foghorn Leghorn would refer to Mr. Rubin as "Bobby Boy"?
Photo: Sen. Hollings

16 posted on 07/25/2002 4:30:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: backhoe
FreeRepublic is the new press and you are one of the watchdogs. Thanks for your links.
17 posted on 07/25/2002 4:40:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Mo1; Torie
Well, well, well. I see the screws are tightening. It occurs to me, Torie, that the House may not call Rubin if the DOJ is seriously pursuing a criminal case. A criminal case would be better because the questioning would be out of democrat control.
18 posted on 07/25/2002 4:46:20 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Glad to see we're starting the day with an optimistic outlook...
19 posted on 07/25/2002 4:57:52 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: kattracks
Mr. Corzine has denied inflating stock prices while chairman of Goldman Sachs and said investors make their own decisions about whether to buy stocks at certain prices.

Now hold on a second. You mean to say, Senator, caveat emptor?? Did you clear that remark with the DNC?

20 posted on 07/25/2002 5:05:59 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: PGalt
Thanks for looking- I just hope to God it does some good.
21 posted on 07/25/2002 5:10:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
Once again I wait to see a little spine and/or balls on the Repub side and know that nothing will happen.

You must have missed the eBay auction:

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MINT, never used matched sets. Low Reserve!

The winning bidder was Oldcrusty, and the feedback left was: Items exactly as described. Will make a nice match for the FBI files in my private collection. Would do business with seller again. A++++++.

22 posted on 07/25/2002 5:35:27 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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To: backhoe
lol, what search engine did you use to get that list?
23 posted on 07/25/2002 5:50:09 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: kattracks
Just proving again that the demonrats are afraid, very afraid of the TRUTH.
24 posted on 07/25/2002 8:02:40 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: kattracks
"I don't," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, when asked whether he intended to call Mr. Rubin as a witness.

This needs a re-write:

When asked whether he intended to call Mr. Rubin as a witness, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman looked at the reporter as if she were a complete idiot. "This is a Republican witch-hunt," Lieberman replied. "Why on Earth would we call a former member of the Clinton Administration?" Muttering, he then gazed around the room for Helen Thomas so she could throw him a softball question.

25 posted on 07/25/2002 8:05:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I don't recall Lieberman saying so little about anything. 2 WORDS?! There must be a mistake.
26 posted on 07/25/2002 8:19:49 AM PDT by airborne
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To: airborne
I don't recall Lieberman saying so little about anything. 2 WORDS?!

I would imagine he only said two words because he really didn't want to talk about the subject...

27 posted on 07/25/2002 8:30:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Miss Marple
Well, well, well. I see the screws are tightening.

I sure am hoping

Seeing Rubin charted off in handcuffs would sure make my day and I predict the markets will knock the roof off if it does

28 posted on 07/25/2002 8:44:32 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: dirtboy
A congress critter on some show this week said he is on that committee and that Joe has planned Enron hearings right through the end of the year.

The guy asked him if he was going to have hearings on Citicorp and Joe said no. I'm stunned, aren't you? :-)

29 posted on 07/25/2002 8:47:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
LOL.....you're on a real roll this week!
30 posted on 07/25/2002 8:48:01 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I'm stunned, aren't you? :-)

Well, we'll see if the press can contain this one for the Dems. I don't think they'll be able to for more than a week or so.

31 posted on 07/25/2002 8:52:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Howlin
Every time I think about that sanctimonious twit Lieberman, I get the urge to throw something.
32 posted on 07/25/2002 8:53:40 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: dirtboy
The New York Times went off the deep end by reporting the story without once mentioning Rubin's involvement. I notice that both Andrew Sullivan and Mark Levin had columns pointing this out.

You know, I think a fair campaign commercial is one which asks why the Committee is avoiding questioning Mr. Rubin. In fact, I think EVERY Republican who is on ANY talk show should ask this question whenever corporate crime is brought up. I think that would shut the Rats up pretty quick.

33 posted on 07/25/2002 8:57:02 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
I won't hold my breath waiting for a grilling by the House. The Repubs should make a real scene over this to hopefully enlighten a few more voters that this is all a big partisan ploy. The 'Rats are just milking the issue and its working. Once again I wait to see a little spine and/or balls on the Repub side and know that nothing will happen.

Well, maybe it's time FReepers and anyone else we can influence make telephone calls and send emails to this group of worthless politicians. They need to have a wildfire lit underneath them before they take action to get the "worms out of the can." It doesn't look as if the Senate Committee is going to do it on their own. I would like to see a massive campaign to get some real justice done instead of the insinuations of criminal wrong doing by the Bush Administration that is taking place right now. Only if we and others put on the pressure, will the real "worms" finally see the light of day. I think this is an important enough issue and feel we may be able to make a difference, especially if we use the information that is available at Free Republic to make educated statements.

34 posted on 07/25/2002 9:47:05 AM PDT by mia
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To: OldFriend
"Just proving again that the demonrats are afraid, very afraid of the TRUTH."
Yeah, baby! Almost as AFRAID as the Republicans are.
35 posted on 07/25/2002 9:47:47 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Miss Marple
I guess Rubin will testify right after Freeh testifies.............
36 posted on 07/25/2002 9:57:32 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: kattracks
"Senate Democrats investigating the collapse of Enron Corp. said yesterday that they have no plans to question former Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, a top official at Citigroup Inc"

Senate Democrats...refuse...investigate...CLINTON (appointee name here)....

no need to read any further, except for this:

"I don't," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, when asked whether he intended to call Mr. Rubin as a witness"

TRANSLATION: "Having make a token show of moral superiority to the American public by booting only Congressional Democrat to hate our leader, Senate democrats, satisfied that the masses of the worker class LIKE us again, will now go back to the lying, cheating, stealing and kickbacks that we booted Traficant for."

37 posted on 07/25/2002 10:01:21 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Miss Marple
Good point, Miss Marple.

I, however, would like to see a decided increase in Republican statements concerning these issues of Democratic corruption and naked partisanship. Me thinks the Pubbies are either too bashful or reticent. I'm trying to avoid saying cowardly.

Oops! It just slipped out.

38 posted on 07/25/2002 10:06:23 AM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: kattracks
BTTT
39 posted on 07/25/2002 10:38:49 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: FreeAtlanta
Right here:

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40 posted on 07/25/2002 11:01:40 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Exempting Enron

Exemption Won in 1997 Set Stage for Enron Woes: on an broad exemption to the Investment Company Act which allowed Enron to setup the numerous foreign affiliated companies which have played a part in muddying their finances.

Enron's initial efforts in 1996 to persuade Congress to change the law were thwarted by opposition from a powerful trade group and some federal regulators. The company responded by hiring the former boss of a leading staff official at the Securities and Exchange Commission to represent it in negotiations with the agency. In an unheralded five-paragraph order in March 1997, the S.E.C. official, Barry P. Barbash, gave Enron's foreign operations a broad exemption from the law -- the Investment Company Act of 1940.

to refresh your memory...http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/23/business/23EXEM.html

41 posted on 07/25/2002 11:13:50 AM PDT by antivenom
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To: Miss Marple
You know, I think a fair campaign commercial is one which asks why the Committee is avoiding questioning Mr. Rubin. In fact, I think EVERY Republican who is on ANY talk show should ask this question whenever corporate crime is brought up. I think that would shut the Rats up pretty quick.

I would wish for this to happen. But Rubin is the one clinton official everybody pointed to as "the ethical one" and I'm afraid the republicans will be afraid to besmirch his good (thanks to media propaganda) reputation.

It will need to be out of the hands of politicians in congress and let a criminal investigation turn up the goods on him.

42 posted on 07/25/2002 11:30:51 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Mo1
Mo if the Bush administration pass up this opportunity they will have failed miserably in showing the people where this entire corruption scandal thrived first!! If the Repubs don't jump on this it will just be another major disappointment.
43 posted on 07/25/2002 11:46:47 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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To: kattracks
Both Congressman Traficant and Condit said today that Rubin had nothing to do with the Enron mess, the NY Times has learned.
44 posted on 07/25/2002 11:52:22 AM PDT by alrea
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To: Denver Ditdat
And the Spine and balls were in mint condition as they had never been used! LOL

Clinton and Treasury Secty knew during their admin that econmoy was a sham.

Elections 2000 come and are ULTRA ULTRA important that a Democrat win to help Cliton and Rubin hide the extent of the sham.

The Dems loose 2000 now have to beg Bush to help cover sham.

He does not play and Enron imlpodes!

Mr Rubin- when you learned of the sham and that it would not get covered you did NADA to help the poor litlle people to get out!

You only perpuated the Myth and made the fall larger for the poor Enron employees.

the DNC and Citicorp should cover the lost 401's and stocks of the poor litlle people at Enron.

46 posted on 07/25/2002 1:02:22 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Canadian Outrage
Lynn they are not going to take Rubin down until they have enough evidence to do so

They aren't going to go after Rubin until all the i's are dotted and the t's are cross

Otherwise it will just look like a political attack against the left


47 posted on 07/25/2002 1:31:21 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1; kattracks; Howlin; Miss Marple; Texasforever; Dales
Going through the 47 posts (at this point) of this thread about why Clintoon's and Citibank's own Rubin won't be questioned about his dealings and coverings for Enron, I want you all to do something for me.

Traverse this thread thoroughly.

Question: What's conspicuously absent here?

48 posted on 07/25/2002 4:46:25 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Howlin
We need to get Imus on this story. He wasn't afraid to take Joe to task before.

I just looked and can't find a link to e-mail him. Any suggestions?
49 posted on 07/25/2002 4:55:11 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: mia; All
"Well, maybe it's time FReepers and anyone else we can influence make telephone calls and send emails to this group of worthless politicians."

I'm in. I'll help spread the word, make calls, etc.

Maybe we need an official FReep of our congress critters, (especially the Republicans), to get them to wake up.

50 posted on 07/25/2002 4:57:18 PM PDT by terilyn
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