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The Terrorist Motel: The I-40 connection between Moussaoui and Atta
LA Weekly ^ | JULY 26 - AUGUST 1, 2002 | Jim Crogan

Posted on 07/25/2002 5:08:14 PM PDT by aculeus

WHAT HAPPENED AT THE NONDESCRIPT ROADSIDE motel outside Oklahoma City was just a fleeting encounter during the twisted cross-country odyssey of the terrorists who would carry out the September 11 attacks. Mohamed Atta, alleged leader of the plot, and two companions wanted to rent a room, but couldn't get the deal they wanted, so they left.

It was an incident of no particular importance, except for one thing. The owner of the motel remembers Atta being in the company of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker," who was arrested prior to September 11 and now faces conspiracy charges in connection with the terror assaults.

If this recollection is correct, the entire incident, and its absence from the public record, raises new questions about the FBI investigation of Moussaoui and even the 1995 destruction of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Already the FBI has endured a withering political and media critique for failing to aggressively investigate Moussaoui and his contacts during his four weeks in custody prior to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Some FBI officials have responded by characterizing Moussaoui as only a minor player. But the report from the motel owner, if proven, could change that. And it also could force the FBI to reopen its investigation of Middle Eastern connections to the 1995 Oklahoma City blast, because convicted bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols reportedly stayed at the same motel, interacting with a group of Iraqis during the weeks before the bombing.

AT PRESS TIME, THE ERRATIC MOUSSAOUI, WHO IS representing himself, was attempting to plead guilty and bring his trial to a close. The 34-year-old French citizen of Moroccan descent had previously filed some 94 hand-scrawled, rambling motions attacking the government's case and its right to prosecute him.

But that circus obscures a conundrum of a different sort. The government's case, as outlined in its new six-count conspiracy indictment, is largely circumstantial, lacking any definitive link between Moussaoui and the 19 hijackers identified by federal authorities. All of which makes the apparent shelving of the Moussaoui-Atta sighting all the stranger. In fact, even though multiple sources contend that the FBI interviewed the motel owner, there's no indication that prosecutors were told. It's possible that the FBI found the motel owner's identifications wrong or his story unreliable. But it's still odd that, in interviews with the Weekly, Justice Department prosecutors seemed to know nothing about the motel encounter, especially because agents reportedly told the motel owner they would pass the information on to Moussaoui's defense team.

The motel co-owner, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the incident occurred around August 1, 2001, just six weeks before 9/11.

"They came in around 10 or 11 a.m. and started talking to my desk clerk," he said. Even though he was working about 10 feet away from the trio, the owner didn't really pay any attention at first. "They were asking my clerk, who no longer works here, about a weekly rate for our rooms." (The former clerk could not be reached for comment.)

The motel, explained the owner, sets aside some rooms with small kitchenettes to rent on a weekly basis. "But they were all taken." He said the clerk explained the situation, but the visitors were persistent. "Finally, my clerk asked me to talk to them."

The motel owner said that Moussaoui and a man who appeared to be Marwan al-Shehhi -- who helped crash a jetliner into the south tower of the World Trade Center -- were friendly and said a few things, but Atta was clearly the leader. "He did most of the talking and seemed very serious," said the owner, adding, "I was standing face to face, about two feet away from Atta, and talked to the three of them for about 10 minutes. Atta asked if he could rent one of the other rooms at a weekly rate, and I told him no.

"I asked him what they were doing here in the area. And Atta told me they were going to flight school. I thought he meant [Federal Aviation Administration] training in Oklahoma City. But Atta told me no, they were taking flight training in Norman.

"I said I didn't understand why they wanted to rent one of my rooms, since we were about 28 miles from Norman and there are a lot of reasonably priced motels a lot closer. But he said they had heard good things about my place and wanted to stay there. I told them I was sorry, but we couldn't accommodate them. Atta finally said okay. Then they all thanked me for my time and left."

After the attacks, said the motel owner, he recognized his visitors in photos from television reports. "I was really stunned," he said. Then he decided to call the FBI hot line. The motel owner said he didn't hear right back from the FBI. In the interim, he also spoke to a former law-enforcement officer who was investigating reported sightings of Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta at the same motel during the mid-1990s. Menepta, reportedly a friend of Moussaoui's, was arrested 30 years ago in Colorado for aggravated robbery and served more than three years in prison.

After September 11, Menepta publicly defended Moussaoui, calling him a "scapegoat." The FBI arrested him as a material witness and subsequently charged Menepta with a federal gun violation. He pleaded guilty and in April 2002 was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison. He was never charged with any terrorism-related crime. But during the preliminary hearing on the gun charge, Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Agent Jeffrey Whitney testified that a confidential source placed Menepta at a meeting of a radical Islamic group in St. Louis where he allegedly threatened to shoot any police officer who entered the mosque. Menepta's attorney challenged the credibility of this report in court.

A former desk clerk at the motel -- a different clerk from the one who purportedly dealt with Atta and Moussaoui -- told the Weekly that he remembered Menepta because in 1994 and 1995 -- prior to the Oklahoma City attack -- Menepta frequently visited the motel office. There, he bought coffee and talked for hours to this clerk.

The clerk and his wife, who both formerly worked at the motel, said they picked Menepta's picture out of a photo lineup prepared by a law-enforcement officer who had interviewed the motel owner.

This officer, who also spoke to the Weekly on condition of anonymity, said that after the motel owner told him about the Moussaoui sighting, he contacted a member of Oklahoma's Joint Terrorism Task Force, which includes the FBI.

The FBI finally acted on the tip. The motel owner said that on December 19, 2001, he went to FBI offices in

Oklahoma City for a formal interview, where he was debriefed by an FBI agent and by Oklahoma City Police Sergeant Jerry Flowers. "We talked for several hours, and I told them everything I knew." The motel owner said he would have taken a polygraph exam but was not asked to do so. The Weekly's law-enforcement source corroborates the December 19 interview.

The motel owner never heard from prosecutors in Moussaoui's case but got one more call from the FBI several weeks later. "The agent told me they had passed on a copy of my statement to Moussaoui's defense team, and I might be getting a call from them. But I was under no obligation to talk to them. However, I don't know if that was the truth. Since then, I have never heard from anyone connected to Moussaoui's case."

ONE REASON FOR THE FBI'S APPARent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal Building.

The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995. "We did have an ATF agent come out and collect the originals of the room registrations for that period, but we never heard back from them. And I never could get the registrations returned." He added that his previous experience with the FBI made him reluctant to contact them about Moussaoui. "But I decided it was my duty to tell them what had happened. So I did."

Former Oklahoma City TV reporter Jayna Davis also interviewed motel staff and former guests. In the process, she collected signed affidavits about their contacts with McVeigh and the Iraqis. She tried twice to give the Bureau this information, but the FBI refused to accept her materials. (The Weekly first reported on her investigation in an article published in September 2001.)

The Weekly's law-enforcement source said he has reviewed Davis' material and considers it credible. "Last December I personally took the documents to the Joint Terrorism Task Force," he said. "I told them they should do their own investigation." The response was not encouraging. He said he was later informed that the Bureau brought in an analyst, "but I was told it would probably go nowhere. They were afraid the whole Oklahoma City bombing can of worms would be opened up and the FBI would have to explain why they didn't investigate this material before."

The Weekly contacted numerous local and federal investigators and agencies, including the Oklahoma task force, the U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI and the Justice Department. All declined to comment. Prosecutors on the Moussaoui case also declined official comment, but their reactions suggested they knew nothing of the motel encounter.

After being told about the motel owner's interview and allegations, Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Spencer responded with a one-word question about the sighting: "When?" Spencer then declined further comment. Another Moussaoui prosecutor, David Novak, also declined comment. But Novak wanted to know the name of the motel owner.

Other substantial connections already tie the Sooner state to Moussaoui and, separately, several 9/11 hijackers.

According to the Moussaoui indictment, on September 29, 2000, Moussaoui made e-mail contact with Airman Flight School in Norman. Then, on February 23, 2001, he flew from London to Chicago and then to Oklahoma City. What he did in the next few days is unknown or at least not accounted for in the indictment. But on February 26, Moussaoui opened a bank account in Norman, depositing $32,000. From February 26 to May 29, he attended flight school in Norman. Then he suddenly quit the school. Between July 29 and August 4, Moussaoui made calls from public pay phones in Norman to Germany. On August 1 and 3, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh wired Moussaoui a total of about $14,000 from two train stops in Germany to somewhere in Oklahoma. This wire transfer does imply a connection to terrorist plotters because al-Shibh, an alleged al Qaeda member, wired money to other hijackers. On August 3, Moussaoui purchased two knives in Oklahoma City. And on August 10 or 11, an acquaintance drove Moussaoui from Oklahoma to Minnesota for enrollment in a new flight school. Authorities arrested Moussaoui in Minnesota on August 17 on an immigration violation. As has been widely reported, Moussaoui attracted attention because he said he was interested in flying a plane but not learning how to take off or land. He was in federal custody when the 9/11 attacks occurred.

As for the terrorists who took part in 9/11, Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi visited the Airman Flight School in Norman in July 2000, according to the Moussaoui indictment. (The motel owner identifies al-Shehhi as the third person with Atta and Moussaoui when they allegedly inquired about a room.) And on April 1, 2001, Nawaf al-Hazmi, who helped hijack American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, was stopped for speeding in Oklahoma and given two tickets. The Oklahoma state trooper found no outstanding warrants and turned al-Hazmi loose. The media has since reported that the CIA had been tracking al-Hazmi, but never told the immigration service or the FBI that he was a suspected terrorist during his 21-month U.S. stay. Authorities have never publicly accounted for Atta and al-Shehhi's whereabouts during the time of the alleged motel encounter.

The Moussaoui indictment lays out a tantalizing possible association between Atta and Moussaoui, but never puts the two in the same place at the same time. The link could exist, however, along a dusty Oklahoma roadside, off Interstate 40, at a small motel that is indistinguishable from hundreds of others, except for its possible connection to terrorists.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Missouri; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: alhazmi; alhussaini; atta; fredthompson; menepta; moussaoui; okc; okcbombing
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1 posted on 07/25/2002 5:08:14 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Bookmarking this one immediately.
2 posted on 07/25/2002 5:15:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: aculeus
TERRORISM BUMP
3 posted on 07/25/2002 5:16:52 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: aculeus
Hullo, Hullo, Hullo,
as the Brits would say.
4 posted on 07/25/2002 5:18:40 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: aculeus
There's something about OKC....
5 posted on 07/25/2002 5:19:38 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: aculeus
Hullo, Hullo, Hullo,
as the Brits would say.
6 posted on 07/25/2002 5:20:25 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: aculeus
BBTTT !
7 posted on 07/25/2002 5:21:47 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: aculeus
"QUARK SOUP Farting robots and shitting ducks: MARGARET WERTHEIM on the passing of Futurama and the future of robotics."

Just one more article you may want to read from the same issue of this publication.

8 posted on 07/25/2002 5:29:39 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: aculeus
The Weekly's law-enforcement source said he has reviewed Davis' material and considers it credible. "Last December I personally took the documents to the Joint Terrorism Task Force," he said. "I told them they should do their own investigation." The response was not encouraging. He said he was later informed that the Bureau brought in an analyst, "but I was told it would probably go nowhere. They were afraid the whole Oklahoma City bombing can of worms would be opened up and the FBI would have to explain why they didn't investigate this material before."

This is going to blow up under the FBI sooner or later. There are too many dots, and one day, those dots are going to connect. The resulting picture will show a lot more foreign involvement in the OKC bombing than we have ever been told. The cover up won't last forever; there are too many dots.
9 posted on 07/25/2002 5:32:35 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: aculeus
I am coming to believe that the Clinton Administration and a group of CYA corrupt FBI traitor/sychophants were more concerned about making any right-wing, fill-in-the-blank-with-whatever-liberals-hate-and-want-to-discredit, types take all of the blame for the OKC bombing than with the actual truth of the matter. Clinton was either too chicken to take on Iraq/radical Islam or felt that fingering only the evil, dangerous domestic terrorists (ie: conservatives) was more important in cementing his legacy and getting his conservative-hating, commie-loving wife an eventual Presidency. Probably a bit of both.

The more I learn and hear about the OKC's obvious questions and blatant discrepencies that have been left hanging, (like who was John Doe?) the more I realize just how corrupt and untrustworthy certain segments of the FBI and CIA have become. That woman reporter, Shippers, and numerous eye witnesses like this motel clerk were on to something. The FBI shut them all up. Why?

Call me a tin-foil hatter. I don't see any logical or truthful explanation to the story that only two guys were responsible for this April 19th horror and that they had no ties to or help from any other group.

10 posted on 07/25/2002 5:35:05 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: OKCSubmariner
fyi
11 posted on 07/25/2002 5:39:22 PM PDT by piasa
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To: doug from upland
Check this out...
12 posted on 07/25/2002 5:40:52 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: demnomo
This IS getting to be damn near too complex to lie about any more. And the supply of stunning "coincidences" seems bottomless. It would be nice to blow this open, say, about the time we roll into Iraq.
13 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:22 PM PDT by eno_
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To: aculeus
I checked the timeline and the OKC meeting reported in this story could conceivably have happened around the first of August 2001. There really aren't any other confirmed dated sightings of Atta and Al-Shehhi from the middle of July through August 6.
14 posted on 07/25/2002 5:52:40 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: eno_
It would be nice to blow this open, say, about the time we roll into Iraq.

Yes, that would be nice. However, I don't think that the Bush Administration and most of the spineless Pubbies are in the mood (or have the guts) to embarass the former sleazy occupants of the White House. The same can't be said of the former occupants who would gleefully do anything (even lie) to make the present occupants (and Pubbies) look bad.

15 posted on 07/25/2002 5:54:33 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: piasa
Glad you pinged OKC. This is getting interesting.
16 posted on 07/25/2002 5:55:15 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Nita Nupress
Was about to post it. Here 'tiz.
17 posted on 07/25/2002 5:56:44 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: demnomo
"The media has since reported that the CIA had been tracking al-Hazmi, but never told the immigration service or the FBI that he was a suspected terrorist during his 21-month U.S. stay."

Speaks for itself.

And they continue on.

18 posted on 07/25/2002 6:02:39 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Nita Nupress
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/673969/posts ------

"Sources say Burton sent investigators to Oklahoma City to sniff around, tasked three staffers to the probe, and asked David Schippers, who led a house panel on Bill Clinton's impeachment, to advise.

But that's not all:Burton wants more staff.

While there's a lot of circumstantial evidence to investigate, like an allegation that the FBI stopped an agent from looking into the Iraqi angle, the feds say it is a waste of money.



19 posted on 07/25/2002 6:08:57 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: belmont_mark
There's something about OKC....

No Kidding!
I just about had a heart attack reading Steven (Jihad in America) Emerson's account
of how he simply stumbled onto a Jihad convention in downtown OKC on XMAS Day, 1993.

The only thing that weirds me out is that I have relatives in Columbia,MO and it's
now acknowledged to have had it's own local Hamas chapter as well as some other
of these groups.

I give these terrorists credit: they knew that America is a great place to "hide in plain
sight"...especially if you stick out like a sore thumb.
20 posted on 07/25/2002 6:24:31 PM PDT by VOA
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To: aculeus
"We did have an ATF agent come out and collect the originals of the room registrations for that period, but we never heard back from them."

This is called cleaning up the evidence. How Bush could pick the now fired John McGaw, former BATF head to run Transportation Security is amazing.

21 posted on 07/25/2002 6:33:14 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: Nita Nupress
I'm going to post this on two different threads because I'm not quite to the end of it yet ----

From ------ http://www.newsday.com/ny-wolond042398290oct04.story

"On Monday, police detained Mohammed Jameel, 25, Sakina's operations director, under Britain's Terrorism Act, which allows them to hold suspects without charge for several days. For the past three years, Jameel, a British citizen, organized training camps in the English countryside for young Muslims to learn hand-to-hand combat and survival techniques."

[Oct. 4, 2001]    "But FBI officials in Washington said they had no information on Sakina or Jameel.

Michigan officials said they had no record of any company named Sakina. "To my knowledge they don't have to be licensed, they don't have to get any particular permits to operate a gun range," said State Police spokesman Mike Prince."

"British investigators say the training took place at rented shooting ranges in Michigan, Missouri and Virginia." [ but not Alabama]  [Missouri is a short drive to Oklahoma]

22 posted on 07/25/2002 6:51:18 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Thanks for the ping. I printed this one out last night and read it twice just to absorb all the details. Jim Crogan did a wonderful job of writing here.

Everyone on the Hill who knew anything back then is now desperately trying to act as if they didn't. At the same time, they must be slowly realizing there's just no stopping this one. It's too big.

Serves 'em right. They never should have caved in to Bill and his stolen FBI files in the first place, or whatever it was that made them cower down to his inflammatory "evil Limbaugh, right-wing" rhetoric.

I'd love to see the sick, bilious look on each one of their faces as more and more reporters call them for interviews about OKC. In fact, I think we need to attach a name to that bilious look and start calling it "McCollumitis."

An Oklahoma Mystery: New hints of links between Timothy McVeigh and Middle Eastern terrorists
by Jim Crogan
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/35/news-crogan.php

Back in 1995, several Congressional Committees did search for international ties to the Oklahoma City attack, but came up empty, explained former Representative Bill McCollum in an interview. Still, the reports issued by the House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, which McCollum chaired until 1995, were quite prescient.

"The task force was on the mark when it came to their warnings about the emerging threat of Middle Eastern terrorism," McCollum said. "I can tell you that we were very concerned about the possibility of a Middle East connection to Oklahoma City. But we never found any evidence there was one."

McCollum, however, said he never heard of the reporting done by TV journalist Jayna Davis, which connected McVeigh and Nichols with Middle Eastern figures in Oklahoma City and the Philippines. Nor did he know of Davis' ongoing communications with Yossef Bodansky, executive director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. "Seffy [Bodansky] never told me anything about that," he said. "This is all news to me."


Right. You're expecting us to believe that you've never heard of Jayna Davis and that "Seffy" never told you. LOL!

Get a clue, guys. Just shut up and do something about it now and stop thinking you can keep it buried, you morons. Americans are a forgiving people. Just stop lying!

Go, Dan Burton, go!

23 posted on 07/25/2002 9:17:19 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: aculeus
ONE REASON FOR THE FBI'S APPARent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal Building.

The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995. "We did have an ATF agent come out and collect the originals of the room registrations for that period, but we never heard back from them. And I never could get the registrations returned."

McVeigh and a bunch of Iraqis moving drums of diesel on a flatbed truck.

Huh.

Nothing to see here.

And, just to be certain, we'll take the originals of the room registrations.

Look up here at my flashlight. . .hold it. . .FLASH--

You were saying. . . .

24 posted on 07/25/2002 9:38:25 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo
One thing that stinks about OKC: Ever try mixing a wheelbarrow of cement by hand? A 55 gallon drum is much bigger. Ever try loading a full drum onto a truck, not at a loading dock? Unless the truck had a lift, this is exhausting work - maybe not even possible for one man. I worked as a groundskeeper when I was in high school. I know what it's like to move, literally, tons of material by hand. Making a truck bomb in one night sounds like a difficult job for four men.

But we don't have to speculate: We know how the bombs for the embassy bombings were made: http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/01032054.htm and we know these were not one-man, one-night operations.

25 posted on 07/26/2002 3:35:41 AM PDT by eno_
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To: aristeides; Nita Nupress; rdavis84; Fred Mertz; honway; OKCSubmariner; Shermy; aculeus
here's the muslim name of Moussaoui's Norman, OK rommie (aka: melvin or marvin(?) lattimore):...Then he decided to call the FBI hot line. The motel owner said he didn't hear right back from the FBI. In the interim, he also spoke to a former law-enforcement officer who was investigating reported sightings of Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta at the same motel during the mid-1990s. Menepta, reportedly a friend of Moussaoui's, was arrested 30 years ago in Colorado for aggravated robbery and served more than three years in prison.

SNIP

A former desk clerk at the motel -- a different clerk from the one who purportedly dealt with Atta and Moussaoui -- told the Weekly that he remembered Menepta because in 1994 and 1995 -- prior to the Oklahoma City attack -- Menepta frequently visited the motel office. There, he bought coffee and talked for hours to this clerk.

The clerk and his wife, who both formerly worked at the motel, said they picked Menepta's picture out of a photo lineup prepared by a law-enforcement officer who had interviewed the motel owner.

26 posted on 07/26/2002 5:29:30 AM PDT by thinden
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To: PhilDragoo; OKCSubmariner; honway; Nancie Drew
this is worth repeating, phil.

any comments from the peanut gallery?

ONE REASON FOR THE FBI'S APPARent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal Building.

The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995.

27 posted on 07/26/2002 5:33:13 AM PDT by thinden
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To: piasa; Alamo-Girl
It appears to me rthat if Massoui was released he might be in danger of Arkencide. Clinton can't afford to have him walking around.
28 posted on 07/26/2002 5:35:25 AM PDT by bert
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To: thinden
Thanks. "Mujahid" is an interesting choice for a Moslem name. It's a participial form from the root, jhd, also the root of "jihad." I guess it would mean something like "jihadist" or "jihad-fighter." Maybe everybody who chooses this as his Moslem name in adulthood ought to be investigated.
29 posted on 07/26/2002 5:49:06 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: dighton; Orual; general_re
Check-your-tinfoil-at-the-door ping.
30 posted on 07/26/2002 6:07:33 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus; Alamo-Girl
Hey, isn't the L.A. Weekly a leftist publication? Hasn't the Village Voice been publishing some of this stuff too? If both the left and the right follow this story, maybe it will get out eventually.
31 posted on 07/26/2002 7:41:10 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: bert
Thanks for the heads up! I don't think he would last very long either.
32 posted on 07/26/2002 7:54:23 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: VOA
Where did you hear about Hamas in Columbia MO? There is a huge mosque (well, huge for a town of Columbia's size) located just off campus at University of Missouri, for whatever that's worth, and when I attended from late 80s to mid 90s there as a very active and vocal anti-Israeli movement there as well.
33 posted on 07/26/2002 7:57:48 AM PDT by Paid4This
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To: aristeides
Hmmmm .... a very good point, aristeides!
34 posted on 07/26/2002 7:59:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: aculeus; thinden
FBI investigates St. Louis native's alleged ties to terrorism

Reporter: Kara Kaswell, News 4

November 7, 2001 7:44 PM

(KMOV) -- The FBI wants to know more about Mujahid Menepta's alleged ties to terrorism. Menepta is friends with an associate of Osama bin Laden who is considered to be the "20th hijacker" involved in the terrorists attacks. Menepta, who grew up in North St. Louis, was arrested in a federal roundup following the attacks. He is now charged with illegal possession of firearms.

(supposed to be a photo of Menepta here, but a photo of Moussaoui is inserted above Menepta's mame)

Mujahid Menepta (KMOV)

Menepta defends his friend who is accused of having ties to the hijackers and September 11 terrorist attacks. Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested after seeking pilot training to steer but not land jets. Menepta says his friend is no terrorist.

Days after a TV interview, Menepta, a St. Louis native who has a felony arrest record, was arrested for possessing three guns, including a semi-automatic pistol.

"They had a lot of questions, no doubt about that," says Chester Buchanan.

One of the pistols seized from Menepta was registered to Buchanan of St. Louis. He says the gun was stolen in August. Menepta told the FBI he bought the gun on the street in St. Louis for $125. The FBI questioned Buchanan about the gun.

"What they told me is that the gun was found with a man that might be connected to September 11 and the terrorists. I was stunned, I sure was," Buchanan says.

Menepta grew up Melvin Lattimore in a duplex on Maple in North St. Louis. He attended Soldan High School where he played football. In 1989, he converted to Islam and changed his name.

"I think it's unfair that the government has him in jail. It's a conspiracy on the government's part," says Leon Lattimore, Menepta's brother.

Lattimore says Menepta often prayed at a storefront mosque on Geraldine in North St. Louis and he adds that his brother's religion does not advocate violence and that Menepta is definitely no terrorist.

"I think they are jumping to conclusions. My brother is terrorist nothing," Lattimore says.

Wednesday, a federal court denied bond to Menepta. Instead, they want to further investigate his possible ties to terrorists. He roomed with Moussaoui, who has been linked to the hijackers. An FBI agent also said Wednesday in court that North St. Louis mosque where he worshipped did at one time stockpile weapons.

35 posted on 07/26/2002 8:01:34 AM PDT by honway
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To: aculeus; thinden
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=843957&pic=none&TP=getattack

Link

Moussaoui's friend gets prison term

A Norman man who came under federal investigation because of his friendship with accused terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui was sentenced Wednesday to 15 months in federal prison.

Majahid Abdulquaadir Menepta, 51, admitted to being a convicted felon in possession of firearms and was sentenced by U.S. District Judge David Russell.

However, Menepta's association with the accused terrorist during the general time period when Moussaoui was undergoing flight training in Norman is the reason Menepta came under suspicion.

Moussaoui was indicted in December on a federal charge of conspiring with Osama bin Laden, the 19 hijackers and others to carry out the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and the Pentagon in which more than 3,000 people were killed.

After Moussaoui's arrest, Menepta told The Oklahoman that he had seen Moussaoui daily at a Norman mosque, had shared meals with him and believed his friend was being made a "scapegoat."

Federal agents investigating the attacks arrested Menepta on a material witness warrant Oct. 11. During a search of his home, agents found a loaded Chinese military-style semiautomatic rifle, a 12- gauge shotgun and a loaded .380- caliber pistol, as well as knives and a bag of ammunition.

Menepta is prohibited from owning guns because he was convicted in 1971 in Colorado of a felony -- aggravated robbery. He spent more than three years in prison.

Menepta also was arrested in 1997 during a demonstration in St. Louis and was put on probation for carrying a concealed weapon.

Menepta was born in Missouri as Melvin Lattimore. He converted to Islam and changed his name in 1989.

An informant told the FBI in 1995 that Menepta was a violent individual who belonged to a radical Islamic group that hated the United States and talked of destroying government targets.

However, Susan Otto(McVeigh's first attorney), Menepta's defense attorney, told Russell on Wednesday her client credits his conversion to Islam with turning his life around and "saving him from a life of bad behavior

36 posted on 07/26/2002 8:05:30 AM PDT by honway
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To: aculeus
http://college4.nytimes.com/guests/articles/2001/11/10/883493.xml

Link

November 10, 2001

No Bail for Friend of Man Suspected of Preparing for Sept. 11 Hijackings

By JO THOMAS

An Oklahoma friend of Zacarias Moussaoui, the man the authorities suspect was meant to be the 20th suicide hijacker in the Sept. 11 attacks, has been ordered held without bail on weapons charges by a federal magistrate in Oklahoma City.

The Oklahoma man, Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta, 51, who was arrested on Oct. 11 and taken to New York as a material witness in the World Trade Center investigation, is dangerous and poses a flight risk, Jeffrey Whitney, an agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, testified at a hearing on Wednesday. He made no specific reference to Mr. Moussaoui.

Without offering many details, Mr. Whitney told the court that some telephone numbers connected with cellphones seized in a search of Mr. Menepta's home in Norman were associated with continuing criminal investigations in Oklahoma City, St. Louis, Detroit, El Paso and Kansas City, Mo. These involve organized crime, drugs and money laundering, he said.

Mr. Whitney told the court that Mr. Menepta, who was born Melvin Lattimore in St. Louis, and changed his name in 1989 after converting to Islam, came to the attention of the authorities the day after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. He testified that an informer told federal agents that Mr. Menepta had belonged to an Islamic group in Norman and St. Louis, whose leaders advocated terrorist acts and killing law enforcement agents.

Mr. Whitney also told the court that Mr. Menepta had said the Secret Service told him that one of the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 had used his visa number. Mr. Whitney said he could not confirm Mr. Menepta's account.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Menepta, who lives in Norman, gave several interviews in which he defended Mr. Moussaoui, 33, whom he knew through a mosque. Mr. Moussaoui, a French citizen of Moroccan descent was arrested in Minneapolis on Aug. 17 on immigration charges after he sought lessons on how to fly jets, but expressed no interest in learning how to take off or land.

Mr. Moussaoui lived in Norman last year while a student at the Airman Flight School there. Mr. Menepta told The Daily Oklahoman in an interview on Oct. 2 that he had seen Mr. Moussaoui every day at a local mosque and would be shocked if he were involved in the attacks.

"I think he's a scapegoat," Mr. Menepta told the newspaper in an article published on Oct. 9.

He was arrested as a material witness two days later. Shortly afterward, federal agents said they found a shotgun, a rifle, a semiautomatic pistol and more than 600 rounds of ammunition at Mr. Menepta's home. He told the agents he used the shotgun for hunting.

Mr. Menepta served time in prison for a 1970 robbery in Colorado and was charged with being a felon in possession of firearms.

Susan Otto(McVeigh's first defense attorney), Mr. Menepta's lawyer in Oklahoma City, on Wednesday questioned the truthfulness of the government's informer and observed that no one had been charged with a crime back in 1995.

Mr. Menepta's mother, Cynthia Lattimore, 87, said her son collected guns, nothing more. "He just likes guns," she said. "Not to kill nobody."

37 posted on 07/26/2002 8:12:06 AM PDT by honway
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To: aculeus
It does seem odd that the "ARAB" connection to Oklahoma City was quickly squelched. I remember soon after the bombing references to Arabs but that quickly disappeared.

Now this. I'm reaching for my tin foil.

38 posted on 07/26/2002 8:14:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: aculeus; honway; OKCSubmariner
Oklahoma motel recieves Al-Q's highest 5 star rating:

"I asked him what they were doing here in the area. And Atta,/b> told me they were going to flight school. I thought he meant [Federal Aviation Administration] training in Oklahoma City. But Atta told me no, they were taking flight training in Norman.

"I said I didn't understand why they wanted to rent one of my rooms, since we were about 28 miles from Norman and there are a lot of reasonably priced motels a lot closer. But he said they had heard good things about my place and wanted to stay there.

so who recommended the place in the 1st place? tim mcveigh or HAH?

btw, what was the name of the place?

39 posted on 07/26/2002 8:22:35 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Chicago Tribune

Criticizing the FBI

As a U.S. citizen and Muslim convert, Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta was the perfect person to serve as a liaison between the Muslim community in Norman and the outside world.

So when the international press came calling after Sept. 11 to discuss Moussaoui, the outspoken Menepta stepped up. Like others at the mosque, he said he knew Moussaoui but found him difficult to like.

Still, Menepta told reporters, he had doubts about Moussaoui's alleged connections to Al Qaeda. Menepta recalled a conversation in which Moussaoui said that football was against the tenets of Islam because it is a form of violence between men.

Menepta, 52, related that story to the press, but he went further, criticizing the FBI for conducting a witch hunt in the wake of the detentions of Alattas and others.

Within days, on Oct. 11, Menepta himself was arrested as a material witness, according to federal court records.

The material witness arrest came even though Menepta had cooperated with investigators, granting numerous interviews to numerous agents between Sept. 11 and his arrest, according to the testimony of a federal agent.

"They told me I was under arrest but wasn't charged with anything," Menepta said in a telephone interview from the Oklahoma County Detention Center. "We went through that for about two hours. It was like, `Who's on second base?'"

Menepta was sent to New York, where he was held in solitary confinement, records show, making his case one of the few to come to light nationwide involving the detention of a U.S. citizen as a material witness.

Before being shipped to Manhattan, Menepta had told federal agents in Oklahoma that he had three guns in his Norman home, including an assault-style weapon, that were recovered through a search warrant, records show. More than 30 years ago, Menepta was convicted on an aggravated robbery charge in Colorado, making it a federal crime for him to possess a weapon.

After he was cleared as a material witness in New York, he was sent back to Oklahoma City to face federal charges for being a felon in possession of a firearm, records show.

"It's certainly not a secret that we come to search his house in connection with the [Sept. 11] investigation," said McCampbell, the U.S. attorney in Oklahoma. But even though Menepta had no links to terrorism, he said, "we found a crime and we prosecuted it."

Menepta is one of more than 100 people picked up nationwide in the Sept. 11 sweep to face criminal charges unrelated to the attacks. His arrest sent shock waves through the Muslim community in Norman.

"It was like, if they can do this to a citizen for speaking out, they can do this to any of us," said one Muslim immigrant who attends the Norman mosque and spoke on condition that he not be named.

A federal judge ordered Menepta held without bond. He pleaded guilty to the gun charge and earlier this month received a 15-month jail sentence.

His now-estranged wife also got caught in the dragnet. While interviewing her about her husband, agents discovered she had yet to report her recent marriage to Menepta to state welfare authorities. During that period, she allegedly collected more than $1,000 in housing benefits, $644 in public assistance and $789 in food stamps. State authorities hit her with charges related to welfare fraud.

Now Menepta wonders what will become of him when his seven remaining months of confinement are up.

After his sentencing, he says, the prosecutor on the case wished him luck.

"Good luck? What am I going to do? Where am I going to work?" Menepta said from a jail pay phone. "It's insinuated that I am a terrorist. . . . So who will hire me? This is just going to be an ongoing thing."

40 posted on 07/26/2002 8:23:11 AM PDT by honway
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To: aculeus
It certainly is interesting that this type of article keeps cropping up, trying to establish a credible link between Jihad Islam and McViegh.

I'm not convinced, yet.

It is very suspicious that the Fed. Gov. was hell bent to put Mcveigh to death as quickly as is happened. And its very suspicious that John doe#2 looks like Padilla. These things are supsicion not evidence.

41 posted on 07/26/2002 8:37:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: aculeus
From article in reply #35:

Wednesday, a federal court denied bond to Menepta. Instead, they want to further investigate his possible ties to terrorists. He roomed with Moussaoui, who has been linked to the hijackers

42 posted on 07/26/2002 8:59:35 AM PDT by honway
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To: BlueDogDemo
ping
43 posted on 07/26/2002 9:11:56 AM PDT by honway
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To: Paid4This
Where did you hear about Hamas in Columbia MO?

A map of the USA with a number of "hot spots" are denoted has been posted here
a number of times at freerepublic.
MY GUESS is that it was lifted from Emerson's recent book:
American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us by Steven Emerson

The map shows that there was a Hamas chapter at Columbia, MO and lists a few other
groups (I can't recall which ones).


...there as a very active and vocal anti-Israeli movement there as well.

You're probably aware this is pretty common in academia now.
Kind of amazing when guys in tweed jackets reveal themselves to be
spiritual brothers of the KKK, isn't it?
(I'm not saying Israel is always on the side of the angels, but I sure
prefer it over the Palestinian Authority.)
I don't know if you know of Victor Davis Hanson, a professor of classics at a
state university in California, says that his observation is that on most campi,
the faculty is 90% pro-Palestinian, while the student body is about 90% pro-Israel.
(Hanson writes a column for National Review; you can check him out at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson.asp)
44 posted on 07/26/2002 9:23:24 AM PDT by VOA
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To: honway
A story from the Nov. 8, 2001 Daily Oklahoman
A Norman man in jail on a weapons charge once belonged to a
radical Islamic group whose members hated the United States, a
confidential informant told the FBI in 1995.

Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta, 51, also once threatened to shoot
any police officer who entered the prayer area of a mosque, an
unidentified University of Oklahoma student told the FBI.

Menepta was arrested Oct. 11 by the FBI as a material witness in
connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. He was first detained
because of his friendship with Zacarias Moussaoui, who continues to
be held in New York as a material witness. Moussaoui, 33, attended a Norman flight school earlier this year
before moving to Minnesota to receive training at the Pan Am
International Flight Academy. He was arrested Aug. 17 on an
immigration violation.

An instructor in Minnesota became suspicious of Moussaoui, a
French citizen, because he wanted to practice steering - but not
landing - a jumbo jet simulator. French intelligence later informed
American authorities that Moussaoui had connections to "radical
Islamic extremists" and made multiple trips to the Middle East.

After Menepta's arrest, the FBI found three weapons and more
than 600 rounds of ammunition in his Norman home. Federal
prosecutors charged him with being a convicted felon in possession
of firearms.

In an Oct. 2 interview with The Oklahoman , Menepta called
Moussaoui a scapegoat.

"I don't think he is a terrorist," Menepta said. "I understand
terrorism quite well. I am a victim of terror, America's terror. I
am a descendant of slaves."

Menepta is not accused of being involved in the Sept. 11
terrorist attacks. But during a federal court hearing Wednesday an
agent for the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
testified that a confidential informant described Menepta as violent.

The source surfaced in 1995 the day after the Murrah Building
was bombed in Oklahoma City. ATF agent Jeffrey Whitney testified
the OU student told the FBI about his association with an Islamic
group in Norman and St. Louis whose leaders suggested committing
terrorist acts and killing law enforcement officers.

The informant said he traveled to St. Louis in the summer of
1994 and met Menepta, Whitney testified. The informant claimed he
saw weapons in Menepta's home, the agent testified.

A St. Louis police officer once entered a mosque, according to
the informant, and Menepta later vowed to shoot any police officer
who entered the prayer area, Whitney testified.

Whitney also testified some telephone numbers traced from cell
phones seized during a search of Menepta's home and car are
associated with ongoing criminal investigations in St. Louis;
Kansas City; Detroit; El Paso, Texas; and Oklahoma City. The
investigations involve organized crime, drugs and money laundering,
he testified.

Menepta's relationship with Moussaoui was not mentioned during
Wednesday's hearing. Assistant U.S. Attorney John Richter presented
the evidence to persuade U.S. Magistrate Gary Purcell that Menepta
is a danger to the community and should remain in jail.

Menepta's attorney, Federal Public Defender Susan Otto,
questioned the informant's credibility. She called the evidence
"speculation and supposition" and said it never resulted in anyone
being charged with a crime.

Whitney testified Menepta claimed the Secret Service told him
that his visa number was used by one of the terrorists who bombed
the World Trade Center in 1993. Whitney said he could not confirm
that information.

Menepta's prior felony conviction was 30 years ago for
aggravated robbery in Colorado. He served almost four years in
prison before being paroled in 1974 after his arrest for armed
robbery and desertion from the military. His name at the time was
Melvin Lattimore.

Menepta changed his named in 1989 after his conversion to Islam.
Born in the United States, he made a trip to Pakistan in 1990. He
told the FBI he went to Pakistan to study Islam.

In 1998, Menepta received a one-year suspended sentence in
Missouri after being convicted of unlawful use of a weapon. Whitney
testified Menepta was arrested in St. Louis at a demonstration
carrying a concealed weapon.

Purcell ruled there is sufficient evidence for Menepta to be
tried on the weapons charge. He ordered Menepta to remain in
federal custody, citing his prior criminal conviction and history
of marijuana and cocaine use.

The judge also noted Menepta's unstable domestic life and
limited financial resources. Menepta has been married six times and
is $ 200,000 in debt.

The guns found in Menepta's home were a loaded .380
semiautomatic pistol, a loaded Chinese semiautomatic rifle and a
12-gauge shotgun.
45 posted on 07/26/2002 2:00:54 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: PhiKapMom
In case you missed this.......
46 posted on 07/26/2002 2:17:00 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: aculeus; thinden
U.S.News.com May 6,2002


By Paul Bedard; David E. Kaplan; Mark Mazzetti

Your tax dollars at work: Was al Qaeda at OK City?


Rep. Dan Burton, chair of the House Government Reform Committee, is an unabashed investigator of the feds, no matter how far-fetched the charges. But even his own team thinks he has gone off the deep end with his latest project: allegations that Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh is tied to Islamic terrorists. McVeigh, the story goes, met in an Oklahoma City motel with Iraqi agents before the 1995 explosion.

Part two: unsubstantiated reports that two 9/11 hijackers holed up with the suspected 20th attacker, Zacarias Moussaoui, in the same motel last July. Coincidence? Sources say Burton sent investigators to OK City to sniff around, tasked three staffers to the probe, and asked David Schippers, who led a House panel on Bill Clinton's impeachment, to advise.

But that's not all: Burton wants more staff. While there's lots of circumstantial evidence to investigate, like an allegation that the FBI stopped an agent from looking into the Iraqi angle, the feds say it's a waste of money. Ditto some in his committee. "Some attorneys here," says a staffer, "think it's wacko."
47 posted on 07/26/2002 4:23:57 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
OKC bombing bump list
48 posted on 07/26/2002 6:21:24 PM PDT by honway
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To: demnomo; lavaroise; skemper; Noswad; Jeff Head; swarthyguy; OKCSubmariner
Perhaps it's even worse.... in 1993, Yossef Bodansky wrote a paper titled "Beijing's Surge for the Strait of Malacca." In it, he drew clear and verifiable connections between the PLA, the Pakistani ISI, the proto Al Qaida, and, Abu Sayyaf. He also notes Bojinka and the desire of the CCP to use "Islamic Terrorist" proxies to attack Western interests both in SE Asia and elsewhere. Naturally, Bodansky's paper was ignored by both Clinton's cabal as well as the sad excuses for "rightists" who are more obsessed with international trade than any sort of true rightist thought. Anyhow, the plan that we've seen come to fruition in stages since the '93 WTC attack via OKC, PA800, the Cole attack, the EP3 attack and of course 9-11 was already apparent as early as the time frame of OKC.

Following a different thread, Clinton's PLA financing, sanitized via the Riady clan, makes one ask the obvious question regarding why Beezlebubba might have been worried about inquiring minds tracing the OKC attack back to Abu (and perhaps "friends" amongst the Makati ME expat "businessmen" community?) and ulitimately back to the ISI and the PLA. And now, we find that it is even possible that the Russian Mafia nee KGB might have had some angles in some of this as well!

I have been around the block a time or two, done lots of business in Asia, seen both the fruadulant and the pristine and generally developed a reasonably sensitive gut feel. My gut tells me that the hairball that is the sequence of attacks on the US both here and abroad since 1991 (please remember that year) are simply a new strategy being employed by those who have wanted to see the US and the West in general fall for quite some time. I urge anyone who really wants to explore this possibility to read "The Perestroika Deception" (Golitsyn) for starters then a healthy dose of Bodansky, Kagan, Kagan, and, please suspend negative judgment for a moment, Nyquist. Then, take step back and up to the 50,000 foot level and review all that has happened between East and West since WW-II with a view towards the possibility of seemingly unthinkable, but if true, grave, continuity of Eastern strategy after the supposed 1989 - 1991 "big change". Please be sure you are not agitated when you do this. Then, think about just what needs to be done...quick.

Now, with that said, perhaps the cover up instincts of those who would get blamed for the failure to detect the grand deception becomes readily apparent.

49 posted on 07/26/2002 6:22:59 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: aculeus
A reply by OKCSubmariner on another thread concerning a March,11 2002 Schippers interview:

"I have now listened to the audio of the Quinn radio program today with David Schippers.

Schippers does say that he has a witness who saw and heard friends of Al Hussaini from OKC talking in August of 2001 at a hotel to hijacker pilot Moahmmed Atta and Zacharias Moussaoui (trained at Norman OK flight school and at a flight school in Minnesota).

Schippers described John Doe #2 for the OKC bombing case as the Iraqi Al Hussaini. Schippers says that he now believes that Hussaini is a more more important terrorist operative than he originally realized. Schippers said Hussaini is a key money mover for terrorists and their operations."

50 posted on 07/26/2002 6:40:47 PM PDT by honway
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