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Palestinians, Jewish settlers clash during funeral, 14-year-old Palestinian girl killed
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 07/28/2002 9:56:08 AM PDT by RCW2001

NASSER SHIYOUKHI, Associated Press Writer
Sunday, July 28, 2002
©2002 Associated Press

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/07/28/international1126EDT0520.DTL

(07-28) 09:43 PDT HEBRON, West Bank (AP) --

Jewish settlers and Palestinians clashed Sunday during a funeral procession for a slain Israeli soldier, leaving a 14-year-old Palestinian girl dead and several Palestinians wounded, witnesses said.

Separately Sunday, the Palestinian finance minister and the No. 2 at the Israeli finance ministry met and finalized details for Israel to transfer an initial $15 million in withheld tax revenues to the Palestinians by Monday, both sides said.

The money is part of an estimated $600 million Israel has withheld over the past 22 months of fighting. Israel has agreed to release some, provided it isn't used to fund attacks, to help ease the Palestinians' precarious economic situation.

Sunday's trouble in Hebron erupted as the settlers were carrying the body of the soldier from the biblical Tomb of the Patriarchs, through the narrow streets of Hebron, to the cemetery. The Palestinians, though confined to their homes by an army-imposed curfew, began throwing stones at the funeral procession, according to photographers at the scene.

The armed settlers responded immediately, firing shots at Palestinian homes and using metal bars and stones smash windows of cars and homes in Hebron's Old City, residents said.

Palestinian Nizin Jamjoum, 14, was standing on the balcony of her home when she was fatally shot in the head, said her brother Marwan, 26, who was injured. At least six Palestinians were hurt, doctors at the city's Alia Hospital said.

The injured included Ahmed Natcha, age 8, who was stabbed when a group of settlers broke into his home and smashed furniture, said the boy's father, Hussain Natcha. The boy was in stable condition, the father said.

The Israeli military said it was aware of only one injured Palestinian, and that he had received treatment from the troops. The army said it was attempting to calm tensions in Hebron, where several hundred Jewish settlers live among more than 100,000 Palestinians.

However, several Palestinian witnesses said that soldiers did little or nothing to stop the attacks by the settlers, which lasted for about an hour.

Palestinian Dr. Tayser Zahadeh, who lives near the scene of the confrontation, said that "before the funeral, the soldiers told us to stay in our homes and stay away from the windows, because they knew there was going to be trouble."

Shortly after the funeral ceremony began, Dr. Zahadeh said he heard several gunshots and peered out the window, where he saw settlers using metal bars and stones to smash the windows of Palestinian homes.

"The soldiers weren't doing anything to stop them," Dr. Zahadeh said. "After one hour of vandalism, the police intervened. They were the ones who stopped the violence."

Israeli media reported that 15 police officers were injured in scuffles with settlers, who also took police equipment.

The army-imposed curfew in Hebron was supposed to be lifted during the day Sunday, and food stalls in the main market opened in the morning.

However, the security forces, apparently fearing clashes, reimposed the curfew after about two hours by throwing stun grenades and firing tear gas to disperse Palestinians in the market.

That drove Palestinians home before the funeral for the Israeli soldier, Elazar Leibovitz, a resident of Hebron. Leibovitz was shot dead in a roadside ambush Friday.

A second car was also riddled with bullets Friday, killing a Jewish couple, Yossi and Hana Dickstein, and one their 10 children. With the nine orphaned children, ages 2 to 20, in attendance, the three were buried Sunday in the West Bank settlement of Psagot.

The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group linked to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for Friday's attack.

In other developments Sunday, thousands of Palestinians defied the army's 39-day curfew in the West Bank town of Nablus, filling markets and opening some offices and banks as Israeli soldiers stood by, residents said.

The Nablus city governor, Mahmoud Alol, and the Fatah movement called for the curfew protest, which began at 9 a.m. and continued throughout the day. Some Western activists also took part, removing roadblocks from the city, allowing cars laden with vegetables and chickens to get out to markets in nearby villages.

"So many of our people are suffering from hunger and others couldn't get medicine so we have to get our rights by ourselves," Alol said.

The round-the-clock curfew in Nablus has only been lifted five times, for a few hours at a stretch, since Israeli troops reoccupied the city more than five weeks ago.

Israel sent its troops back into Palestinian cities in the West Bank in an attempt to prevent Palestinian attacks inside Israel. The number of attacks have fallen sharply, but have not stopped.

In other developments Sunday, Israeli soldiers arrested three suspected militants in the village of Burkin, southwest of Jenin. Among those detained was Mohammed Abu Tabikh, 22, a member of the radical Islamic Jihad, group members said.

Also in Burkin, Israeli forces ordered the family of the late Majid Tayeb, a member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, to leave their home. Soldiers then fired tank shells at the two-story building and destroyed it, Palestinians said. The army said it was checking the report.

Tayeb was killed a year ago when a stolen car he purchased blew up with him inside. Palestinians say Israel was responsible for Tayeb's death.

Also, two cars outside the home of Mohammed Afaneh in Burkin were blown up by Israeli troops, residents said. Afaneh, a member of the militant Hamas movement, was arrested 20 days ago by Israel. The army did not immediately comment.

©2002 Associated Press  


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1 posted on 07/28/2002 9:56:08 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
"NASSER SHIYOUKHI, Associated Press Writer"

I guess we're supposed to believe this Arab propagandist masquerading as an AP reporter.
2 posted on 07/28/2002 10:32:11 AM PDT by LarryM
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To: LarryM
Actually, you don't see Israelis toting automatic weaponry in funeral processions. The palis do. And they have been known to pop a few of their own, even their kids, to make the front pages, so that their little helpers such as RCW can have something to do on a slow weekend ;).

3 posted on 07/28/2002 10:39:52 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryM
"NASSER SHIYOUKHI, Associated Press Writer"

LOL! Yep, no bias here!

4 posted on 07/28/2002 10:45:07 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: LarryM
Here's a better source with a more accurate story.

http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/printfriendly.pl?/news/justin/nat/newsnat-28jul2002-95.htm

5 posted on 07/28/2002 11:16:04 AM PDT by Duan
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To: Duan
Umm... Duan....didn't you forget the < barf alert! /sarcam off > warning when you said "Here's a better source with a more accurate story"?

Assuming the story actually happened:

if Israeli citizens threw rocks/attacked a Pali funeral procession, the EU would declare it a "war crime". Pali's do it to an Israeli funeral, and the Israeli people are at fault????
6 posted on 07/28/2002 12:07:11 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: RCW2001
the Palestinian finance minister and the No. 2 at the Israeli finance ministry met and finalized details for Israel to transfer an initial $15 million in withheld tax revenues to the Palestinians by Monday, both sides said.

I have waited in vain for an explanation of why:

Any Israeli taxes are due to the Palestinian authorities.
Protection money?
Taxes from where?
Who collects it and why?

This is the reverse of the millenia-old muslim practice of the losers paying special taxes.
What gives?

I am truly curious.

7 posted on 07/28/2002 12:25:13 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: LarryM
I guess we're supposed to believe this Arab propagandist masquerading as an AP reporter.

Careful what you wish for.

We already have to bear their painful arabic syntax in Free Republic posts over names that sounds so mainstream, like "Lance All-American" or some equally idiotic muslim invention.

8 posted on 07/28/2002 12:28:53 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Most of the taxes are rebates for the fuel taxes that the Arabs are estimated to pay. It is not considered fair that the Arabs pay Jewish taxes. Funny, if Israel was a closed society, what Arabs would drive on the streets? But... go figure.

Now as to this article, I have heard of crashing weddings, but crashing a funeral? Tossing rocks from the balconys of the apartment buildings at the funeral procession? Talk about tacky! Besides, getting hit with a rock dropped from the third floor could add to the funeral procession. Those Pali's are a sick bunch of people. I wonder if it is rabies or something spreading through Islam. Some virus like HIV that you get from kissing the ground or something. What else can explain the mass insanity of the god mooners?

9 posted on 07/28/2002 1:08:50 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
This is an example of why Jewish settlements in heavily Arab populated areas is a bad idea. It is also a bad idea if Israel does nothing to punish the perps. JMO. Was the funeral procession through Arab areas designed to be an in you face provocation (like Orangemen marching through Catholic areas of Belfast?), or simply a matter of poor judgment?
10 posted on 07/28/2002 1:15:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
This is an example of why Jewish settlements in heavily Arab populated areas is a bad idea.

Yes, Arabs are famous for tacky things like trying to kill people at funerals and blowing up discos with belly bombs. I think having Moslem Arabs living anywhere near is a demonstratively a bad idea.

It is also a bad idea if Israel does nothing to punish the perps. JMO.

I agree, but I was wondering, was your idea of Perp the people raining rocks down on the funeral or the people getting hit by rocks?

Was the funeral procession through Arab areas designed to be an in you face provocation (like Orangemen marching through Catholic areas of Belfast?), or simply a matter of poor judgment?

You do know that Arabs have this tendency to SHOOT at Jews over here. Like, everyday, in-between blowing up pizza parlors “a real in your face kinda thing.” The funeral procession was from the house to the cemetery. Only the Pali's make it a public parade. It took place in the Hebron Hills IMO. I take a clue from the NAME of the PLACE as to just WHO is the in your face kinda guys.

When the Mexicans demand California and shoot up cars on the freeway, is a funeral to bury the dead an in your face provocation just because Americans are outnumbered by Illegal Mexicans in that State? (Uh, I thought not). The Hebron hills are named after the HEBREWS from who the Islamic Invaders stole the land by force and squatted on it. Now the Islamic Invaders are whining because the Hebrews are back. Call a whambulance quick!

12 posted on 07/28/2002 2:15:38 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: PlainSpeaking
Huh? Have you read the article?
13 posted on 07/28/2002 2:19:03 PM PDT by Theo
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To: American in Israel
In case you are interested, I think it is a real stupid idea to pick a fight with people in a funeral. They tend to be irritatable. I got little pity on people (?) who would drop rocks on a funeral procession. I have just about had enough of the Moslem @$$holes over here. I think when they try to kill Jews and the next day complain that mean old Jew fired them and they don't have a frickin Job that I am going to puke. I am sick of their taunts as an American, (they do not like Americans, after all, all we ever did is work to give them a nation and give them money), I am tired of the bloodshed to "protest" the ownership of land they never owned in the first place. (Show me the deeds, the land was captured back from Jordan and Egypt, NOT Frankinfrickinstine).

I do not, and never will condone murder as a valid form of political expression and I for one do not understand why the world does not just wipe these scum from the face of the earth before what ever disease they have spreads farther than it already has. But then, we let Hitler ripen and rule a country instead of rot in jail where he should have stayed, why should we learn from the past? We are so much smarter than our fathers right?

14 posted on 07/28/2002 2:25:59 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
The perps were the rock throwers and then the Jewish rioters. I have no truck with the Palestinians, and have no illusions about them (who can at this point?), but the idea should be to try to difuse tensions, not exacerbate them. Yes, I know it is a long hard road, and thus the need for a wall, with the antagonists on either side of it for the time being.

In any event, it is a bad idea to always support what your team does no matter what the act. It tends to cloud judgment.

15 posted on 07/28/2002 2:26:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Duan
What makes you think the ABC (Australian Bias Corporation)is a better source and is any more accurate?

You will notice that their story is unattributed which means they have cobbled it together from the newswire services such as AP - not from their own field reporters.

And for anyone who mught be interested the Australian ABC is somewhat equivalent to say PBS and is likewise inhabited almost exclusively by the same left-wing pinko socialist do-gooders who always assume the underdog must always be in the right.

17 posted on 07/28/2002 3:15:34 PM PDT by anapikoros
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To: PlainSpeaking
What I don't understand is why everyone seems so against the Palestinians.They're not all bad you know.

On 9-11 the palestinians danced in the streets.

I don't care what happens to them.

Nothing anyone could say or do could make me care what happens to them.

18 posted on 07/28/2002 4:00:23 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: PlainSpeaking
Yes indeed Theo.I've read the article.

Then why did you say the following?

Many of these people are suffering from hunger.Now the Israelis throw rocks their funeral.Surely nobody can support this kind of action?I for one must stand up and be counted when I say that what the Israelis are doing is against the UN convention of Human Rights.

OK, so let's check the article again...WHO threw rocks at WHOSE funeral?

While we're on it, rock-throwing is against the UN Human Rights Convention? The Palestinians will be surprised to hear that! Not that it matters any... Or do you mean some other diabolical Israeli act? And just what convention do you refer, exactly?

19 posted on 07/28/2002 4:28:10 PM PDT by agrace
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To: PlainSpeaking
Yes indeed Theo.I've read the article.What I don't understand is why everyone seems so against the Palestinians.They're not all bad you know.You can't tar them all with the same brush just for the actions of a few.

Have you seen the polls? How many of them support suicide bombings against Israelis?

20 posted on 07/28/2002 4:39:02 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: PlainSpeaking
Something tells me you're not a regular around here....
21 posted on 07/28/2002 5:24:07 PM PDT by cimon
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To: PlainSpeaking
Many of these people are suffering from hunger.Now the Israelis throw rocks their funeral.Surely nobody can support this kind of action?I for one must stand up and be counted when I say that what the Israelis are doing is against the UN convention of Human Rights.

Welcome to FreeRepublic. (member since 7/28/02)

We appreciate honesty here, so maybe you'll get rid of that Union Jack on your profile. (I'm just guessing that English isn't your Mother Tongue.)

ML/NJ

22 posted on 07/28/2002 5:25:00 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RCW2001
Let's see...a 14 year old girl is killed and an 8 year old boy is stabbed by these peace loving folks in a funeral procession. Judaism the religion of peace and tolerance! Tomorrow or the next day they'll get all upset when some innocent Jewish kids get killed...go figure.
23 posted on 07/28/2002 6:26:07 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: American in Israel
Are the several hundred Jewish settlers under the same curfew as the 100,000 Arabs?

Didn't think so.

Who got killed and injured here? That's right, Pali children.

I do not, and never will condone murder as a valid form of political expression and I for one do not understand why the world does not just wipe these scum from the face of the earth

The second part of that sentence contradicts the first, unless "murder" only applies to Jewish victims.

A lot of the Arabs still hold deeds: from Jordan, even from the British...of course they are no longer worth the paper they are printed on since the Israelis consider them all squatters.
24 posted on 07/28/2002 8:06:13 PM PDT by Deathmonger
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To: Deathmonger
Are the several hundred Jewish settlers under the same curfew as the 100,000 Arabs?

No, if a Jew shows his face in the street when the army is not there he is just gutted and stomped. All of these areas are completely Judenrien, or Jew free. However the Arabs who live in Jewish areas are completely free. It is not called Aparthied, but that is what it is. Moslem Aparthied.

Who got killed and injured here? That's right, Pali children.

Uh, did you forget (how could you not it has been over a day or so...) the intentional mass murder of civilians by the bombsie twins? Who got killed there? That's right, Jewish children. Tell me, what military target was at the coffee shop? When the Islamics lined up to claim the wreckage, where were you to condem them? Heard any apologies from the Islamic sect for slaughtering a dozen or so men, women and children this week, or the week before, or the week before that or the week...

Oh, I guess I am not on the right thread! This is a riot started by Palestinians who attacked a funeral procession by dropping rocks on the people from the balconys of the apartment buildings lining the narrow streets! This is not the bombsie twins, or the coffee house slaughter, or the machine gun squat by the freeway thread, this is the Jews got ambushed and in the gunfight and run for cover someone got hurt, OH MY GOSH, IT WAS A PALESTINIAN THIS TIME THREAD! I guess I should cry big tears because this time the 14 year old was not wearing a bomb belt but was bombing the moms and dads with bricks. Oh big waaaahhhh!

Give it a break. I do not, and never will condone murder as a valid form of political expression

A lot of the Arabs still hold deeds: from Jordan, even from the British...of course they are no longer worth the paper they are printed on since the Israelis consider them all squatters.

I hate to impinge on your shakey reality, but Israel honors deeds. There are houses in down town everwhere that are abandoned since 1948 and still stand, like haunted houses in a thriving city. This even in the capitol city Jerusalem where a decent sized plot of land is worth a half a million dollars.

Tell me, since the Arabs are building new settlements at twice the rate as the Jews inside Israel, where oh where do they get the deeds? (Deed, what deed, I don got to sho you no stinkin deed!)

Didn't think so.

Didn't think at all looks like it. In fact you have no idea what is going on over here, and that is precicely why I write. You are being fed a pack of lies and are able to discard half of them as garbage and eat the other half. I got a clue for you, Islamics tend to lie, all the time. It is a religion for them.

And if you think someone being killed in a fight when Palestinians attack a Jewish funeral is the Jews fault, you are hopeless. I bet you would cut your sisters throat if she got raped. Sounds harsh but it is a normal thing to do in Arabic Islam. Blame the victim, and play self-rightious, but don't expect to fool anybody but other fools.

25 posted on 07/28/2002 9:43:40 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Publius6961
"We already have to bear their painful arabic syntax in Free Republic posts over names that sounds so mainstream, like "Lance All-American" or some equally idiotic muslim invention."

You are like talking child - I and my ancestors here were before you - some came on USS mayflower, others native American - what are you some Israeli Jew trying to get US into WW3 for Israelis are, and I know this because I have Jewish friends, many, they have tell me, the Jews are not really THE Jews, and they are stealing the land of the palistinians most who are really just the moderate Islam. - Signed - Bruce, Admirer of Dan Pearl
26 posted on 07/29/2002 1:44:38 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: PlainSpeaking
Get rid of the Union Jack?Why?English is my mother tongue.I was born and bred in the UK.

All I'm doing here is speaking up for the Palestinians.They have their greviances too you know.It's all very well siding with Israel but you forget the Palestinian children who are starving and have no medical aid.If you could see for yourself the conditions out there then I wonder if you would still support the Israelis?

Well, maybe the schools over there have deteriorated badly.

As for the "grievances" of the "Palestinians," we all have things we don't like. It doesn't give us the right to go blowing up pizza parlors. I wonder if you can understand that. I wonder if you can understand that once your beloved "Palestinians" started blowing up pizza parlors I stopped caring whether they have food, medicine, or whether they live at all; the same way you Limeys felt about the Krauts if you catch my drift.

What you are doing is speaking up for the Muslims. There are no Palestinians any more than there are Saharans.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 07/29/2002 4:50:46 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: American in Israel
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Didn't think at all looks like it. In fact you have no idea what is going on over here, and that is precicely why I write. You are being fed a pack of lies and are able to discard half of them as garbage and eat the other half. I got a clue for you, Islamics tend to lie, all the time. It is a religion for them.

And if you think someone being killed in a fight when Palestinians attack a Jewish funeral is the Jews fault, you are hopeless. I bet you would cut your sisters throat if she got raped. Sounds harsh but it is a normal thing to do in Arabic Islam. Blame the victim, and play self-rightious, but don't expect to fool anybody but other fools.

WOW !

BRAVO !

What a great post!

ML/NJ

29 posted on 07/29/2002 4:55:58 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: PlainSpeaking
I support the Palestinian people because they are suffering.

If they are suffering it's because their leaders have done nothing to alleviate them, taking all the aid money that is supposed to go towards easing this suffering, to buy themselves personal luxuries. Then these starving creatures are then fed a diet of propaganda that THE JEWS are to blame for their condition instead of their evil leaders.

31 posted on 07/29/2002 5:33:12 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: PlainSpeaking
The schools in Britain are doing fine,thank you.I'm a teacher so I should know.

I support the Palestinian people because they are suffering.They need to be understood and not made scapegoats of.Israel should be ashamed of itself.

The teachers over here think they're doing a great job too. (Maybe you'll let the folks in the peanut gallery know what the object of the word of, highlighted above, is.)

The Israelis are suffering too. The Germans suffered. Suffering does not give anyone a claim to some moral high ground.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 07/29/2002 6:17:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: TheBattman
Assuming the story actually happened:

Would you believe the Jerusalem Post?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1027506372169

33 posted on 07/29/2002 6:37:55 AM PDT by Duan
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