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Who am I to tell Christians to stop supporting government education?
RazorMouth ^ | 7/28/02 | Jim Babka

Posted on 07/28/2002 3:29:38 PM PDT by ppaul

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Flame away!


1 posted on 07/28/2002 3:29:39 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Quite simply, I don’t believe children are qualified to be missionaries, and they are therefore more likely to be corrupted by the godless environment of the government schools than to effectively change that environment.

No flames here. Your argument is spot on. Parents who send their children to fight their battles on the front lines sound more palestinian than Christian.

2 posted on 07/28/2002 3:42:09 PM PDT by watchin
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To: watchin
Teacher pressure is bad...peer pressure is----WORSE!
3 posted on 07/28/2002 3:45:18 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: ppaul
No Flame.

Very similar articles by Joseph Farah this week on World Net Daily site.

Cal Thomas said the same thing many years ago.

I've got 3 sisters, 3 of us homeschool. We're working on the 4th sister. I'll send her this article. Thanks.

4 posted on 07/28/2002 3:46:17 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: ppaul
No flames.
5 posted on 07/28/2002 4:58:07 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: watchin
you are so right!

I really don't know how a Christian parent can look at public schools and still claim that it is GOD and not their own fears and weaknesses that keeps their children in them!

Talk about stumbling blocks! A lot of parents would be better off with millstones tied around their feet and dumped in the lake!
6 posted on 07/28/2002 5:08:50 PM PDT by mamaduck
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To: ppaul
Flame?! Nope. This is certainly one of the major reasons we homeschool.
7 posted on 07/28/2002 6:04:14 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: *Homeschool_list
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8 posted on 07/28/2002 6:04:56 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: ppaul
Public schools haven't got a prayer!

In Germany, so I'm told, parents can choose whether their children in public schools will be instructed in the Catholic or Lutheran faiths, or left without religion. [In a few locales, where other religions exist enough to have a school, those too are available.]

This would be an improvement over what we have now.

9 posted on 07/28/2002 6:10:07 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: ppaul
No flames here.

My family attended a church for a while until the pastor, from the pulpit, proclaimed that it was a Christian parent's obligation to send their chillun to public schools to be "salt and light". He didn't own up to the fact that he loved the PS's athletic programs which his kids were deeply involved in. About once a month his 8th grade daughter missed church because of girl's soccer, of all things.

We left.

Quite simply, I don’t believe children are qualified to be missionaries, and they are therefore more likely to be corrupted by the godless environment of the government schools than to effectively change that environment.

Yep. And amen.

10 posted on 07/28/2002 6:38:04 PM PDT by Old Fud
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if I am being "deluded" about the education of my children, then it is God who is doing the deluding, because it is His voice to which we are listening.

No flaming here either, but honest and Spirit led disagreement.

My husband and I both spent much time in prayer about where to send our children to school. We have a very good Christian school nearby, and were in a good public school district.

We both felt strongly that God was leading us to send our kids to public schools, in which we would become involved, and would pull them out if it seemed that they were being taught questionable material, or being led astray, or if what we were teaching them at home were being contradicted in school. We never felt that God was leading us to remove them.

Three of our four children have graduated, one has now graduated from a fine Christian college, one is a junior, and one is witnessing to the love of Jesus Christ at basic training in the Army reserves right now.

They have all said that being in public schools has strengthened their faith and made them better Christians (we are evangelicals). They have all been involved in World Mission trips, and have a heart for the lost.

It is not the right choice for every child, and in some public schools, we would definitely have made another choice. But it is dangerous to make blanket statements, and I agree that it would be a tragedy to remove all Christians from public schools.

Flame away. (Just don't anyone accuse us of child abuse, as some have done before.)

11 posted on 07/28/2002 7:17:40 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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12 posted on 07/28/2002 7:42:03 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: EdReform; Michael2001; AnnaZ; P-Marlowe; RaceBannon; yendu bwam; JMJ333; Dimensio; Bryan; ...
ping.
13 posted on 07/29/2002 7:46:30 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
This article is dead-on.
14 posted on 07/29/2002 7:55:19 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Old Fud
About once a month his 8th grade daughter missed church because of girl's soccer, of all things.

She'll probably rot in hell!

15 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:18 AM PDT by JediGirl
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You're so
vicious!
16 posted on 07/29/2002 8:14:23 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul; scripter; *Education News
Excellent article!
17 posted on 07/29/2002 8:18:34 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: ohioWfan
This spectre of "teaching questionable material" to me is a bit of an oversimplification.

Your kids are being "taught questionable material" every time they pick up a popular magazine, turn on the television, go to the mall and look at the latest fashions in the clothing stores, hang out with friends engaging in typical adolescent talk, go to a movie rated anything above "G", and a host of other activities.

To me, there is no THREAT to being exposed to ideas that aren't compatible with your family's spiritual values. To me, the THREAT is not equipping kids with the reasoning skills and ability to think critically so that when they encounter the larger world--where they're INEVITABLY going to be exposed to "questionable material"--they can put it in perspective. They will always have reference to the "baseline" of their core values.

IMO, I don't give a flip if my daughter is "taught" evolution, because we talk about it, and why evolution as a theory for the development of man from lower animals runs counter to revealed truth in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and the Judaic tradition from which it sprang. And then she thinks to herself "I know my Savior and my Heavenly Father, and they are real and true. I will accept that truth and reject the false."

Then it becomes a trivial thing, that someone might possibly confront her with things that aren't in harmony with her religious faith.

It's one thing if kids are being exposed to stupid, senseless "information" like the proper procedure for putting on a condom, or creative ways to engage in gay sex--just so I'm not being misunderstood here. Those things must be objected to strenuously, and if they persist then that school is not the place for your kids.

But it's another simply to have them exposed to alternate ways of looking at the world, even if those ways are wrong. If your children are prepared to think critically about these things in light of what they know, they will never be threatened by them.

18 posted on 07/29/2002 8:31:35 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: JediGirl
She'll probably rot in hell!

Is this the best you can do? Why don't you try to debate sometime instead of posting inane comments? Your hatred for all things religious is getting a little old.

BTW, good luck over there in socialist land.

19 posted on 07/29/2002 8:34:42 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: watchin
No flames here. Your argument is spot on. Parents who send their children to fight their battles on the front lines sound more palestinian than Christian.

Respectfully disagreeing here. (But the palestinian crack deserves no respect.)If God wanted us all to act, do, and speak the same he wouldn't have given us free will and brains to think. Kudos to those who have their children in private schools or that homeschool them. But I take another route.

My children and I discuss what they learn in school, and when it is something that I disagree with we discuss it and i give them my views on it. Once when I was considering homeschooling a girl spoke up and said, "They have to enter the real world at some point and time." That's a true statement and I'd just as soon they learn to deal with it now...with my world view interjected as a balance, of course.

20 posted on 07/29/2002 8:47:03 AM PDT by dubyagee
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