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Market Watch 7/29/02 (Dow +447.49, NASDAQ +73.10, SPC +46.12)
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Posted on 07/29/2002 7:03:59 AM PDT by mrs9x

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To: SauronOfMordor
or the Fed is manipulating the market, trying to goose it higher so the institutionals have a chance to cash out before it crashes again.

I have never been a conspiracy theorist when it comes to manipulation of financial markets. But after what happened to gold and JPM and CITI last week, I'm not so sure. There is still a LOT of fundamental weakness and it does not explain the 15% run-up since Wednesday.

21 posted on 07/29/2002 7:47:15 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Pension funds changed asset ratio mix to hold substantialy more stock. IMHO one of the many reasons.
22 posted on 07/29/2002 7:48:03 AM PDT by Slicksadick
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To: Wyatt's Torch
What changed since last week
My theory is...the mood. It didn't used to matter as much as it does now.

I actually hope I am wrong. The implications of a market that is so tied into sentiment are chilling, frankly.

23 posted on 07/29/2002 7:48:29 AM PDT by Dales
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To: alisasny
I think the market will be over 10,000 by election day ...

Wouldn't that be a kick!

24 posted on 07/29/2002 7:49:09 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Slicksadick
Pension funds changed asset ratio mix to hold substantialy more stock.

Interesting. What did they move it out of? Cash? Any link to some data? Thanks.

25 posted on 07/29/2002 7:51:46 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Dales
Speaking of sentiment, tomorrow the consumer confidence report comes out. It may not pay to stay bullish by the marekt's close today.
26 posted on 07/29/2002 7:55:33 AM PDT by Sally II
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I'll add my $0.02... O'Neil and the administration have been successful in the past several days in conclusively demonstrating that the economic recovery is gaining momentum. Therefore, investors feel more positive about future earnings.
27 posted on 07/29/2002 7:55:45 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Dales
My theory is...the mood. It didn't used to matter as much as it does now.

I could buy it if the change in mood was related to the fact that a "corporate responsibility" bill was finished. Not what was in it just that it (the bill and its' associated regulation) couldn't get any worse. Markets don't particularly care for meddling govenment wonks who have no idea what havock they can wreak.

28 posted on 07/29/2002 7:55:54 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Sally II
It wouldn't shock me to see tomorrow be a pullback. Actually, last Wednesday (see above) I said one of the first three days of this week would be one.
29 posted on 07/29/2002 7:57:22 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Principled
Any significant rebound is a disaster for Daschle-Gephardt-McAwful, Inc.
30 posted on 07/29/2002 7:57:38 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Wyatt's Torch
This am's talking heads said it was moved from bonds. If todays gains hold, does this mean a 10% rise from last weeks lows changes us back to a bull market?
31 posted on 07/29/2002 7:58:43 AM PDT by Slicksadick
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I make no claims as to what would have caused the mood to change. All I am noting is that I sensed the mood had changed.
32 posted on 07/29/2002 7:58:58 AM PDT by Dales
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To: mwl1
conclusively demonstrating that the economic recovery is gaining momentum. Therefore, investors feel more positive about future earnings.

Not to be a complate cynic but have they conviced the same people that never saw the decline coming in the first place? Additionally, what are they using as "conclusive" evidence that there is a recovery? GDP growth? Productivity improvement (hey to LS;-)?

33 posted on 07/29/2002 7:59:38 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I still want to know WHY? What fundamentally changed since last week? If anyone can answer this, I'll leave it alone.

NINE for NINE....the rescue of the miners...the stoic intense rescue effort as played out on national TV...recognition of God and country as an inspiration.

Markets are sum total of rational (and irrational) perceptions.

The good guys got a big win

34 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:09 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: spokeshave
I don't doubt that will help, but the market started this rally before the miners were even trapped.

IF it is sentimentality driven, it may be the lump sum of any number of things, from Greenspan's speech to the picture of the Adelphia executives being carted off to who knows what.

35 posted on 07/29/2002 8:02:43 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Dales
to the picture of the Adelphia executives being carted off

Forgot about that one. That highly publicized white collar perp walk and the "corporate responsibility" deal both occurred on Wednesday. The latter happened just prior to the big jump in the afternoon.

36 posted on 07/29/2002 8:05:33 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Dales
You know, as a side issue, I was thinking how much more I enjoyed hearing the young miner, Blaine Mayhugh, speaking at his press conference, than hearing the mournful intonations of Daschle, Lieberman, and the rest.

This really has nothing to do with the stock market, but since you were talking about the miners I thought I would just chime in. LOL!

37 posted on 07/29/2002 8:06:45 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Right.

I hope I am wrong. While I like the fact that the market is going back up, I really am scared by the idea of a market where so much is tied to emotions instead of logic.

38 posted on 07/29/2002 8:07:12 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Miss Marple
Phenomenal story, isn't that one? I simply can't imagine what those men went through, and the engineering that went into the rescue operation is just breathtaking. What a great testimony to the power of the human will and mind, coupled with divine providence.
39 posted on 07/29/2002 8:08:42 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Miss Marple
Yes ..and there were no grandstanding dems in the entire episode...I think this was a big subliminal message to the sheeple.
40 posted on 07/29/2002 8:10:46 AM PDT by spokeshave
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