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James Dobson: Flaming Liberal
The Fountain of Truth ^ | July 29, 2002 | Douglas F. Newman

Posted on 07/29/2002 6:28:04 PM PDT by hellonewman

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1 posted on 07/29/2002 6:28:04 PM PDT by hellonewman
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To: hellonewman
Dr. Dobson, liberal? No. A Doctor with over 25 years of work helping us to keep and strengthen families...and that means fighting against the forces that break up families. That's what he does, thus the name of his ministry: Focus on Family. The village not only doesn't raise our children, it does little but corrupt.
2 posted on 07/29/2002 6:37:28 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: hellonewman
I have often thought that prominent "conservatives" have taken "liberal" approaches to solving societal problems. (Let's pass a law that ... or let's hold so-and-so financially responsible for ...)

Witness prayer in school legislation, anti-flag burning laws, gun laws and more gun laws, and the like.

3 posted on 07/29/2002 6:40:48 PM PDT by PackerBoy
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To: hellonewman; rhema; Dataman
...it is the prospect of such litigation north of the border that has one Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family (FOTF) salivating

Written by a true ignoramus.

It's an odd thing, isn't it? On most subjects, when people are dirt-ignorant, they are reluctant to express what views they have in public. They don't really want others to see their ignorance. So they cloak the darkness of their intellect in a judicious silence.

But not when it comes to anything vaguely religious! There ignorance is something of a virtue, so long as one knows the proper cliches.

And so it is with our ignoramus here. His depiction of Dr. Dobson as "salivating" at a project he undertakes is beneath contempt. I shan't waste further time: anyone who knows anything of Dobson will be repulsed, and those tickled by the slander have problems which the supply of information alone will not remedy.

Dan
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4 posted on 07/29/2002 6:48:22 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: hellonewman
Gambling is legalized theft...fraud.

While every normal person knows intellectually that the house always wins...the stark truth about that particular bell curve is carefully hidden behind bright lights, exciting sounds and a world of color...in other words, behind a veil of deception.

I don't think delegitimizing gambling (fraud/theft) is liberal in the least...I think it is conservative and just.

EV

5 posted on 07/29/2002 6:48:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: BibChr
Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -- Martin Luther

The author begins with a faulty analogy and goes downhill from there...does the guy not know the difference between a woman and a one-armed bandit?

6 posted on 07/29/2002 6:52:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: hellonewman
Newman, sounds like you are a libertarian. I do not feel as you apparently do, that the state has NO role. Yet I still consider myself a conservative. The state has a role in protecting citizens. Certainly I also feel that each person has responsibility of his own. Looking at the increase of gambling in my own state of Michigan, it has been FACILITATED by government. From the LOTTO to the casinos, there is a big tax grab going on. It is not as simple as you make it. I am not totally in favor of eliminating all gambling, but government promotion of it is wrong.
7 posted on 07/29/2002 6:53:38 PM PDT by bejaykay
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To: hellonewman
....damning someone with faint praise.......very faint praise :^

....The author of this piece of negativity just doesn't ....get it!

8 posted on 07/29/2002 6:53:43 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: EternalVigilance
Good catch. It is like Libertarianism not to be able to tell the difference between something which, for instance, can be enjoyed without intoxication (alcoholic beverages), and something taken solely for the purpose of intoxication (drugs). The same "reasoning" cited would also oppose anti-rape laws.

Dan

9 posted on 07/29/2002 6:59:48 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: hellonewman
Good article. Bump for accepting personal responsibility for your own behavior instead of blaming others.

10 posted on 07/29/2002 7:34:27 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: bejaykay
I am not totally in favor of eliminating all gambling, but government promotion of it is wrong.

I think that Newman would agree with that.

11 posted on 07/29/2002 7:43:24 PM PDT by decimon
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To: bejaykay
I agree about the Lotto. They should no more promote gambling via the Lotto than they should run liquor stores.
12 posted on 07/29/2002 8:03:42 PM PDT by hellonewman
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To: EternalVigilance
Gambling is not legalized theft. No one enters a casino against their will.
13 posted on 07/29/2002 8:05:33 PM PDT by hellonewman
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To: BibChr
Oppose anti-rape laws? I don't think so.
Rape is the initiation of force and should be punished severely.
Gambling and other vices are voluntary. No one is forced to participate in them.
14 posted on 07/29/2002 8:08:18 PM PDT by hellonewman
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To: hellonewman
>i> ... Unlike Gary Bauer...

I agree with him there. Mr. 'Less-the-one-percent-of-the-vote' decided his next career was head of the Christian Right in an imagined McCain administration. Of course, that required some serious back-stabbing of the current leadership. Ei tu, Brutus?

And besides, he shouldn't be keeping 25 year old girlfriends on campaign staffs at his age.

15 posted on 07/29/2002 8:20:54 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: hellonewman
Gambling is not legalized theft.

I think it is...theft by deception.

They are fleecing the foolish who are clueless about how the whole thing really works...exploiting base human greed and avarice.

16 posted on 07/29/2002 8:42:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: BibChr
But not when it comes to anything vaguely religious! There ignorance is something of a virtue, so long as one knows the proper cliches.

Why aren't you writing for World?

17 posted on 07/30/2002 6:02:39 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: hellonewman
The writer confuses conservatism with Libertarianism.
18 posted on 07/30/2002 6:05:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: hellonewman
Gambling is not legalized theft. No one enters a casino against their will.

And Gamblers Anonymous does not exist. Gambling promises a Mercedes but gives you a Pinto.

19 posted on 07/30/2002 6:07:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: hellonewman
Christians pray not be led into temptation and to be delivered from evil. (Matthew 6:13) We do not pray that temptation or evil be eradicated, much less that the state should do the eradicating. We do not pray that some slick lawyer cons 12 brainless jurors into rendering a feel-good verdict. If we pray in such a fashion, we are not praying biblically. Evil and temptation will always be with us. It is our Christian duty to exercise individual self-restraint, not to beg and plead that the state usher in utopia.

Ha!

20 posted on 07/30/2002 6:09:32 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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