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Democrats Fawn Over Hillary at 2004 Strategy Meet
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Posted on 07/30/2002 6:59:50 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Hillary Rodham Clinton stole the show at a New York gabfest of 2004 Democratic presidential wannabes yesterday with a passionate defense of her husband's policies and a sharp attack on President Bush's team as pals of the rich.

Clinton, who insists she's not seeking her husband's old job, hit similar themes to three Democrats who do want to run - but she got a much louder, more visceral response at the Democratic Leadership Council.

"She's more effective than pretty much anybody but her husband . . . She's just got it," said Los Angeles Council Member Jack Weiss.

"I wish she would run. She's very charismatic," said Maine state Rep. Lisa Tessier Marrache.

The DLC, which bills itself as the home of centrist "New Democrats," served as Bill Clinton's base when he ran for president, and Sen. Clinton's speech was the keynote at its national meeting.

Sens. Joe Lieberman (Conn.), Tom Daschle (S.D.) and John Kerry (Mass.) also spoke yesterday, with Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) and Rep. Dick Gephardt (Mo.) to follow today.

Sen. Clinton says she won't run for president - aides say vice president isn't on the horizon either - and pollsters now generally omit her from 2004 surveys. When included, she's second to Al Gore.

But the response she drew yesterday underscored the fact that none of the real 2004 wannabes was able to make the same kind of emotional connection with a friendly, receptive Democratic crowd.

Without mentioning Bush by name, Clinton denounced the president's portrayal of the go-go 1990s as an era of "binge" excess that left America with a giant "hangover."

"Now some have recently called that record a binge. Young people able to afford college, and they call that a binge? Millions climbing out of welfare into new jobs, and that's some kind of excess?" she fumed.

She painted Democrats as friends of ordinary folks and Republicans as supporters of special interests whose response to insider trading and accounting fraud is: "Don't ask, don't tell."

Behind the scenes at the event, much of the chatter was about Gore's decision to skip the forum hosted by the DLC, whose founder, Al From, has been sharply critical of Gore's populist "us-against-them" rhetoric in 2000.

"We're not into class resentment and warfare," From said - though in fact, all of the Democratic wannabes joined Clinton in using populist rhetoric to blast Bush as a pal of the rich.

Kerry said the Bush tax cut was "irresponsible and unfairly structured." Daschle said it was a tax for "the wealthiest" Americans. And Lieberman said Bush favors "special favors for special interests."

All of them, along with Clinton, said they oppose making the Bush tax cut permanent but, although they said it was a mistake, they declined to call for repeal of the president's tax cut.

Although the speakers denounced corporate scandals, DLC spokeswoman Karin Kullman acknowledged the group has taken donations from both companies and hasn't returned them.

She said the donations weren't recent but declined to specify the amounts.

Alone among the presidential hopefuls, Kerry sought to make foreign policy a central disagreement with Bush, arguing the president has mishandled the war on terror and failed to make the case for invading Iraq.


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1 posted on 07/30/2002 6:59:50 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

HillarystrikingMussoliniposeHillarystrikingMussoliniposeHillarystrikingMussoliniposeHillarystrikingMussolinipose

2 posted on 07/30/2002 7:02:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
When Republicans get together and criticize Democrats it's described in the media as being "mean-spirited" I would describe this gathering of losers as just plain mean.

I agree with Rep. Lisa TessierMarrache. I, too,wish Hillary would run. The resulting landslide against her would shut her big mouth forever.

3 posted on 07/30/2002 7:08:45 AM PDT by Russ
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To: InvisibleChurch
Good article. There is one thing I don't understand about this hitlery. It seems like the pubbies have always given her a pass. Now that she has taken her gloves off and cast herself as a player, she should be fair game for any sort of attack. Let's talk cattle futures. Let's talk billing records. Let's talk filegate. Let's talk secret health care task forces. Let's talk anti-semitism. Let's talk ashtrays. Let's talk behavior (eye-rolling) during the post 9/11 speech. Let's talk silverware. Let's talk buying votes of FALN terrorists and Hassidic Jews. Hell, let's talk Vince Foster. I mean, let's get it on.
4 posted on 07/30/2002 7:10:48 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: InvisibleChurch
"She's more effective than pretty much anybody but her husband . . . She's just got it," said Los Angeles Council Member Jack Weiss.

Oh yes! Hitlery has REALLY got it!


5 posted on 07/30/2002 7:14:59 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: InvisibleChurch
This is unreal! This is the best the Democrats have? Wooden, unimaginative, shallow, power-hungry Ms Hitlery? She...talks...like...a...robot! About as charismatic as a box of rocks. I certainly hope she does run.
6 posted on 07/30/2002 7:17:00 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Russ
"I, too,wish Hillary would run. The resulting landslide against her would shut her big mouth forever."

Here in NY, many of us said the same thing when Her Heinous deemed to run for the Senate in 2000.

Go ask Sen. Lazio how that turned out.

Recipe for disaster: To one part Hillary running add one part democrat voter fraud, one part media bias, and one part republican ineptitude.

7 posted on 07/30/2002 7:19:46 AM PDT by KeyBored
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To: KeyBored
Go ask Sen. Lazio how that turned out.

I'm in New England, not New York, but I was devestated when Lazio lost to her. It was a nightmare.

8 posted on 07/30/2002 7:21:36 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Does this mean that it's now OK to make eye contact with queen shrillary.....enquiring minds desire to know....?
9 posted on 07/30/2002 7:25:02 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: InvisibleChurch
"She's more effective than pretty much anybody but her husband . . . She's just got it," said Los Angeles Council Member Jack Weiss

Sick.

10 posted on 07/30/2002 7:25:40 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

11 posted on 07/30/2002 7:27:17 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: abclily
the problem with Hillary! running is that she'll have the press behind her in a huge way. I'm not sure that the republicans have learned to be cut-throat enough to run against a Hillary! (can't say the word 'woman')... the press will pander to the soccermoms, and any vote against her will be a 'hate' vote against women... also, she'll go hiding behind her skirt like she did when Lazio 'attacked' her with a piece of paper during their debate...let's pray that W understands the danger of another xlinton in the WH
12 posted on 07/30/2002 7:27:52 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
We will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

A Song for Hillary

The whole world will be dancing in the street
when Hillary Rodham Clinton takes her Senate seat.
No carpetbagger is she;
she's a human Statue of Liberty.
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!
We're so glad for the joy that she will bring.
We can always count on her to do the right thing.
She's faithful and honest, too.
Thank God she's happened to me and you.
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!
No matter what the voices of deception say,
Vote Hillary Clinton on Election Day.
No matter the problems, big or small;
she will tackle and solve them all.
The whole world will be dancing in the street
when Hillary Rodham Clinton takes her Senate seat.
No carpetbagger is she;
she's a human Statue of Liberty.
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!
Words and Music by James Steward, Jr.

If Hitlery is allowed to slime her way back into the White House, we can kiss America goodbye.
13 posted on 07/30/2002 7:31:17 AM PDT by Kathleen
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To: InvisibleChurch
Re "HillarystrikingMussolinipose":

Mussolini never had the pose down as well as Hillary. It is more accurate to say that Mussolini was one of the first to attempt a Hillary pose. (Mussolini was able to imitate Hillary before she did her pose using the same time warping technique Hillary's parents employed to choose her name.)
14 posted on 07/30/2002 7:32:11 AM PDT by hauerf
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To: spokeshave
Does this mean that it's now OK to make eye contact with queen shrillary.....enquiring minds desire to know....?

IF you CAN. LOL!

15 posted on 07/30/2002 7:32:39 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: InvisibleChurch
"Impeachment did not have to be for criminal offenses-but only for a 'course of conduct' that suggested an abuse of power or a disregard for the office of the President of the United States...that a person's 'course of conduct' while not particularly criminal could be of such a nature that it destroys trust, discourages allegiance, and demands action by the Congress...the office of the President is such that it calls for a higher level of conduct than the average citizen in the United States."

- Hypocrite Hillary Rodham, 1974

16 posted on 07/30/2002 7:37:29 AM PDT by pollwatcher
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To: KeyBored
Fortunately, Bush is no Lazio and the majority of the
nation doesn't vote like New Yorkers.
17 posted on 07/30/2002 7:40:56 AM PDT by Russ
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To: b4its2late
Hitlery's new girlfriend?
18 posted on 07/30/2002 7:47:56 AM PDT by au eagle
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To: InvisibleChurch
She's just got it,

Yes ,and I wish she would give it all back.

19 posted on 07/30/2002 7:49:28 AM PDT by stanz
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To: InvisibleChurch
DO NOT poo-poo her running.
She has the Clinton machine in full operation, churning out every conceivable element she needs in place to make her Presidency happen.

DO NOT consider for a moment she won't run.
DO NOT think for a moment she doesn't stand a chance.
Remember 1992, when that unknown, third-rate, small-state politician challenged a war-winning, sitting, popular President---and won.

She is cunning, determined, and making every move to challenge (and try to win) the Presidency, repeating 1992, in 2004.

Poo-poo, discount, ridicule, ignore, laugh at her at your peril. She is coming, she is vicious, she is determined--and she has a lot of support on her side, including the dolting media. She is no political lightweight. Take her every move, every speech, every action serious---very serious.
20 posted on 07/30/2002 7:49:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: InvisibleChurch
While we joke and fun with this, I think we underestimate the truth.

She is a threat. If she ran in 2004, or in 2008, there is a chance she could win. She is becoming like Princess Diana, thanks to a fawning press.

21 posted on 07/30/2002 7:53:58 AM PDT by joyful1
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To: TomGuy
This woman is completely obsessed with power. There is no way she's not running, and I have no doubt that with the amount of vote fraud that goes on in our major cities, that she has every chance of getting herself wedged into the Oval Office.

The recent articles declaring Hillary to be a moderate (of all things!) are similar to the stuff that was going on with her "husband" when he moved to the middle to deceive those of short memory.

Save us, someone please, from this creature!


22 posted on 07/30/2002 8:06:35 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: TomGuy; KeyBored
Your warnings are well-founded and conservatives would do well to take heed of them. Hillary! is a dangerous politician. She's ambitious and has a lot of allies. She knows what she wants and goes after it with tenacity and a ruthlessness seldom seen. Above all, she don't take prisoners. Cross her and you'll pay and pay and pay. I mean, here is a person who was willing to endure whatever personal humiliation and lack of self-respect it took to keep her wagon hitched to a scumbag and pervert because she knew it was her pathway to power. Lack of personal honor and self-respect is a hallmark of despots.

Likewise, I still think Gore is a dangerous enemy, even though most here just laugh him off. He hasn't changed his stripes. He's an environmental kook who'd just as soon throw away the technology and infrastructure that has in large part contributed to the growth and welfare of our Republic to appease those who form the base of his political support. He'll lie at the behest of his masters and demand the same of those who would serve him. I shudder to think that he came within a whisker of sitting in that chair in the Oval Office, and that a half a million more of our fellow citizens voted for him than the honorable person now holding what is arguably the most powerful political position on Earth at any time in history.

23 posted on 07/30/2002 8:07:39 AM PDT by chimera
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To: KeyBored
Go ask Sen. Lazio how that turned out.

Lazio was a lousy candidate, for a couple of reasons. First of all was the late start he got, so he didn't have real name recognition (not his fault). Second, given his late start, the moron took off the better part of a month during the campaign. Meanwhile, to give credit where credit is due, Hitlery visited every county in New York.

I do wish that she'd run. It would be like McGovern in '72. She will do well in the cities/states along the coasts, plus Chicago, but will get creamed everywhere else. It will be Red vs. Blue like in 2000, only more so. Hitlery doesn't cut it in the South or the heartland, only in those areas seriously infected by lieberalism. An additional handicap is her personality and history.

24 posted on 07/30/2002 8:08:50 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: InvisibleChurch
"Hey crusty, You can swollow it it will not make you pregnant.
25 posted on 07/30/2002 8:18:56 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: InvisibleChurch
Some phrase concerning something drawing flies comes to my mind.... ummm can't remember the exact words... maybe they're not very nice....
26 posted on 07/30/2002 8:44:17 AM PDT by chemainus
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To: InvisibleChurch
There are some politicians that have this polorizing effect. The people that like them, love them with a passion that borders on worship. The people that dislike them, despise them. The Kennedys polorize people in the same way.

Hillary would have the most dedicated worker base of any possible Dem. candidate. They would be as dedicated to their goal (electing Hillary president) as Al Queda members are to their goal.

Hillary's running, no question. I think she is waiting to see if she will have a chance in 2004. If Bush looks beatable, look for Hillary to go after the nomination no matter when.

I think it is possible she could take the nomination with a "late" strategy. She wouldn't even enter the primaries. She would wait until after the primaries, then push for the nomination. Her supporters are soo supportive (and entrenced in the Dem power structure) that you could see a "damn the rules, let's just nominate Hillary" movement at the convention.
27 posted on 07/30/2002 9:12:44 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: joyful1
She is a threat. If she ran in 2004, or in 2008, there is a chance she could win. She is becoming like Princess Diana, thanks to a fawning press.

And it should be very interesting to see if Hitlery gets away with the same tactics as she did in the NY race, that is, not allowing any sort of give-and-take questions from the press.

She will never appear on Fox for one thing (not unless Alan Colmes is the one doing the interview) and has to have such a controlled setting that you just have to laugh.

The press will give her a pass in 2004, just as they did in 2000.

28 posted on 07/30/2002 9:17:50 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: KeyBored
Go ask Sen. Lazio how that turned out.

Alas...poor Lazio entered the campaign late (due to Guiliani's troubles) and subsequently was behind in fund raising, Lazio ran a poor campaign. He did not effectively debate Hillary, did not question her on positions. He did not seemed prepared. In a debate, when Lazio went over to Hillary's side of the stage to get her to sign a pledge...her campaign just made her a 'victim' again. That Lazio was 'invading' her space, that he acted as a spousal abuser. Lazio never did get untracked.


29 posted on 07/30/2002 9:34:02 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: InvisibleChurch
She painted Democrats as friends of ordinary folks and Republicans as supporters of special interests whose response to insider trading and accounting fraud is: "Don't ask, don't tell."

This woman who has never paid for her own house in her life and whose husband plays golf with the movers and shakers while charging $100k/speech is a friend of ordinary folks? I'd like to see the press interview one ordinary folk who ever socializes with the Clintoons.

Shalom.

30 posted on 07/30/2002 9:36:33 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: TomGuy
Remember 1992, when that unknown, third-rate, small-state politician challenged a war-winning, sitting, popular President---and won.

I remember, but there are two other things I remember.

That sitting, popular President lied about not raising taxes and paid dearly for it. He also wasn't nearly as charismatic as his son.

Let's face it, one of the very few things that W. and Clinton have in common is that they are both friendly looking people who make you think you can trust them when you look at them.

Of course, one of them is living proof of that saying about not judging books by their covers.

Shalom.

31 posted on 07/30/2002 9:41:20 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: InvisibleChurch
Anybody here see a relation between the timing of release of the Al Sharpton videotape and Hillary making herself more prominent? Hillary might run but she HAS to eliminate Sharpton as a factor first.
32 posted on 07/30/2002 9:51:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: ArGee
I'd like to see the press interview one ordinary folk who ever socializes with the Clintoons.

Remember tho' -- the truth doesn't matter...the press will continue to mouth the Democrat lies, that they are the friends of the "downtrodden" (nevermind that they've kept their foot firmly on the neck of said people) and champion of the "regular folks" or the "little guy", while the Republicans are for the top 1% and Big Business...many regular "folks" (like those coal miners in PA.)are conservative and vote Republian...but the press seems oblivious to this...it's simply amazing !

33 posted on 07/30/2002 9:52:20 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: KeyBored
"Here in NY, many of us said the same thing when Her Heinous deemed to run for the Senate in 2000.

Go ask Sen. Lazio how that turned out."

While I am not about to write off the viability of a Hillary campaign for President, I'm not sure her victory in New York is a reason to be especially worried, in and of itself.

While she won election, her campaign can hardly be considered impressive. Despite running against a no-name Republican who ran a late-starting, ineffective campaign, Hillary only won by 11 points; this in a liberal stronghold of a state that Al Gore carried by a whopping 25 points over George W. Bush.

Considering that the Hillary vote lagged far behind that of the Democrats' standard-bearer, in one of the bluest states in the country, I am unconvinced how her message will play out in less blue places such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, Missouri, Florida, et. al.

I'm not discounting her by any means. But she has to prove that she's not so polarizing a political figure that she can win outside of the traditional bastions of liberalism.

34 posted on 07/30/2002 9:52:43 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: texasbluebell
There is no way she's not running, and I have no doubt that with the amount of vote fraud that goes on in our major cities, that she has every chance of getting herself wedged into the Oval Office.

Bump

35 posted on 07/30/2002 11:42:53 AM PDT by Kathleen
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To: InvisibleChurch
El Douche'!
36 posted on 07/30/2002 11:46:40 AM PDT by freedomson
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To: InvisibleChurch
"We're not into class resentment and warfare," From said - though in fact, all of the Democratic wannabes joined Clinton in using populist rhetoric to blast Bush as a pal of the rich.

Socialists and Liberals are the definition of Hypocrites.I'm not surprised at this at all.This is to be expected. Nothing new to be learned here,just another fresh reminder that they are "Dividers".

37 posted on 07/30/2002 2:26:12 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: InvisibleChurch
"I wish she would run. She's very charismatic," said Maine state Rep. Lisa Tessier Marrache.

Yeah,and so was Joseph Goebbels.But at least that digusting piece of dirt is referred to as "...Seen in the long view, Goebbels preached, 'the best propaganda is that which does no more than serve the truth'." And Shrillary Clinton knows nothing about serving the truth,which in some sick way,makes her worse than him.It's only just begun America.From The Journal of Historical Review---if you have 5 free minutes to read the similarities in their character,I submit for your perusal: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n1p18_Weber.html

38 posted on 07/30/2002 2:46:02 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: TomGuy
Amen! If the Dems make headway this year, she will be a shoe-in, because if Americans are so stupid as to elect "soft on crime and terrorism" Democrats, it's ALL OVER. We will get what we deserve.
39 posted on 07/30/2002 2:54:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: InvisibleChurch
You know, if Kerry/Lieberman/Edwards et al. are all too testicularly challenged to stand up to Hilliary! then how in Hades are we supposed to expect them to stand up to the likes of Saddam?
40 posted on 07/30/2002 2:58:00 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Add to your comments all the millions of dollars we spent for her and daughter (I can't even stand to type their names) to take vacations all over the world. I would just like to know what the dollar amount is for those 8 years of them traveling on our dollars.
41 posted on 07/30/2002 3:04:21 PM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: Texagirl4W
Right on target, Texas Girl. And the list does go on and on. Calling secret service agents "pigs". Working for commie lawyers as an intern. Amazing memory losses in front of investigators. Multimillion dollar book deals before the Senate rules applied. Registering for gifts for her new DC home. Her actions vis a vis Juanita Broderick i.e. accessory to rape and to cover it up. And I'm sure that if we turn over the rock that is Hillary! we will see lots and lots more squirmy things scurrying around looking for cover. I say let's turn over that rock!
42 posted on 07/31/2002 7:31:29 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I agree-bad move on Lazio's part invading her space in the debate. Just like Gore did to Bush in their debate. The press will be on Hillary's side, but they always underestimate Bush. Dick Morris said Hillary has lousy political instincts. Every word she says will be scrutinized in a presidential election.

Remember Bush beat Ann Richards-a VERY popular Texas governor.
43 posted on 07/31/2002 8:02:32 AM PDT by TracyPA
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To: TracyPA
bttt
44 posted on 07/31/2002 1:52:22 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: InvisibleChurch
Based on the clips that I saw, she relied on typical Democrat style: accuse your opponent of doing what you yourself are actuall doing. For instance:

-PJ

45 posted on 07/31/2002 2:03:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: InvisibleChurch
"She painted...Republicans as supporters of special interests whose response to insider trading and accounting fraud is: "Don't ask, don't tell."

Puh-LEEEZE!! It was her hubby's SEC which totally ignored rampant Corporate Corruption...ROFLMAO!! I'm increasingly convinced that all it takes to be a DemonRAT Minion is Absolute Ignorance, and all it takes to be an Effete DemonRAT Elitist is an uncanny ability to lie thru yer teeth!!

FReegards...MUD

46 posted on 07/31/2002 2:08:36 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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