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Big brothers, big sisters, big trouble
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 8/1/2002 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 07/30/2002 7:45:42 AM PDT by mikeb704

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America (BBBSA), founded almost a century ago, is the largest one-on-one mentoring program in the world. With 500 affiliates across America, it’s been widely respected and boasts Microsoft, the NFL, Pillsbury, UPS and others as corporate sponsors.

That may be about to change, at least the part about being widely respected. BBBSA turned a corner earlier this month by approving a resolution not to exclude a mentor for various reasons, including "sexual orientation." Yes, we’re talking homosexuals here. This policy has been in effect at the national level for several months, but now it’s mandated for all affiliates.

Many folks will be uncomfortable about that. They believe that homosexuals tend to prey on children. The late Ann Landers said that wasn’t true. According to the American Psychological Association, "There is no evidence indicating that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children."

The Human Rights Campaign, busily "working for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender equal rights," approvingly notes that the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and the Child Welfare League of America all have policy statements denying a connection between homosexuality and child abuse.

Still, such claims do nothing to alleviate the queasy feeling one gets when hearing about the notorious NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association. In existence for almost 25 years, NAMBLA claims it is "working to improve public information, to gain public understanding of the benevolent nature of man/boy love, and to raise the consciousness of boy-lovers through our publications, local working groups, international outreach, political and educational activities." As if boy-lovers need additional consciousness-raising.

Despite its avowed mission, some in "the homosexual community," wherever that may be, appear to have accepted NAMBLA. It’s been allowed to participate in gay parades in major cities.

NAMBLA was also welcomed into the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA). About a decade ago, the ILGA was granted "consultative status" by the United Nations Economic and Social Council.

The indispensable North Carolina Republican, Senator Jesse Helms, sponsored legislation withholding funding for any UN agency condoning or promoting pedophilia. Defending his proposal, Senator Helms noted: "In a 1990 resolution under the heading of ‘Man-Boy/Woman-Girl Love,’ the ILGA referred to pedophiles as a sexual minority and called on its members to treat them ‘with respect, and to engage in instructive dialogue with them.’" Yeah, many of us would like to have a little instructive dialogue with them. And a baseball bat.

The point is that, to at least some homosexuals, pedophilia is tolerable. Moreover, there are studies strongly suggesting that there’s a connection between homosexual men and child molesters. A recent one was authored by Dr. Timothy Dailey for the Family Research Council. Before going any further, you need to keep in mind that the Family Research Council is considered by some to be one of the baddest bogeymen in the vast right-wing conspiracy.

A key finding in the FRC analysis is that homosexual men, while making up a very small percentage of the population, commit almost one-third of total child sexual abuse. As you can imagine, there have been charges that the study outrageously distorted statistics and logic. One researcher quoted in the paper asserted his views had been misrepresented.

Given the intense controversy, it’s probable Big Brothers Big Sisters of America will feel plenty of heat. Parents, mentors and contributors to the organization will have to decide if the new policy makes sense to them. What’s especially problematic is that parents won’t even be told if their child is affected by the new rule.

We have to hope that BBBSA doesn’t become a magnet for those wishing to harm children.

It would all be so much easier if everyone shared the perspective of a Log Cabin Republican leader who wrote: "Unfortunately, the homosexual community’s political leadership, which is dominated by radical leftists, has failed to denounce loudly the North American Man-Boy Love Association and other nefarious groups. But on this issue, as with many others, the leadership is removed from the constituency it purports to serve. For a sizable majority of gay men, sexual relations with children are viewed as morally appalling, and the adult practitioners of it are seen as pathological deviants."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrothers; bigsisters; childmolesters; homosexualagenda; homosexuals
Is BBBSA trying to avoid the fate endured by the Boy Scouts?
1 posted on 07/30/2002 7:45:43 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Many folks will be uncomfortable about that. They believe that homosexuals tend to prey on children. The late Ann Landers said that wasn’t true. According to the American Psychological Association, "There is no evidence indicating that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children."

How about the fact that a minority of priests in the Catholic Church (homosexuals) have brought about 95% of the molestation cases in the Church's sexual scandal, virtually all against teenage boys? The numbers speak for themselves.

2 posted on 07/30/2002 7:47:23 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mikeb704
Is BBBSA trying to avoid the fate endured by the Boy Scouts?

Actually, thought the Boy Scouts have been through hell, it's an organization that's emerging stronger, freer, with more support from private donors and organizations. Boy Scouts is growing dramatically in our area. It's one place where teenage boys are relatively safe from homosexual indoctrination, men who model homosexual behavior, and from homosexual molestation.

3 posted on 07/30/2002 7:49:50 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mikeb704
What’s especially problematic is that parents won’t even be told if their child is affected by the new rule.

Right. They want you to send your son out with a flaming gay, and for you not to even know. Parents will quietly abandon this program if they persist.

4 posted on 07/30/2002 7:50:54 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mikeb704
For a sizable majority of gay men, sexual relations with children are viewed as morally appalling, and the adult practitioners of it are seen as pathological deviants.

That's good, if true. But the Catholic mess makes it clear that a sizeable percentage of homosexual men have a strong sexual attraction to teenage boys.

5 posted on 07/30/2002 7:52:17 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mikeb704
A key finding in the FRC analysis is that homosexual men, while making up a very small percentage of the population, commit almost one-third of total child sexual abuse.

As is confirmed by the Catholic homosexual priest / teenage boy rape scandal.

6 posted on 07/30/2002 7:55:14 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
How about the fact that a minority of priests in the Catholic Church (homosexuals) have brought about 95%

Exactly. The BBBSA can ignore the harm done to The Church when it was targeted and infiltrated by homosexuals at it’s own peril… but is it ready to do so at the peril of the children entrusted to it?

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

7 posted on 07/30/2002 8:00:50 AM PDT by South Hawthorne
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To: mikeb704
Does anyone have Big Brothers Big Sisters email address so it can be posted and we can send them letters??
8 posted on 07/30/2002 8:01:19 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: victim soul
According to their web site:

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America

Email: national@bbbsa.org

9 posted on 07/30/2002 8:03:55 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
I had a friend in college whom I respected for donating his time to be a Big Brother. Later on I discovered that he was gay. Granted, this is a sample of one, and my college friend may have been a perfectly good and respectable mentor, but nonetheless, ...ick.
10 posted on 07/30/2002 8:15:12 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck
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To: VoiceOfBruck
Which underscores another troublesome aspect of the policy: People - especially parents - will always wonder if the child's being abused.
11 posted on 07/30/2002 8:18:05 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: yendu bwam
But the Catholic mess makes it clear that a sizeable percentage of homosexual men have a strong sexual attraction to teenage boys.

By the same logic, heterosexual men, making up a minority of the population and accounting for a large majority of sexual offenses against women, should be excluded as leaders in the Girls' Clubs. You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

12 posted on 07/30/2002 8:18:10 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
Is there such a thing as "Girls' Clubs"? I thought they were called Boys & Girls Clubs.
13 posted on 07/30/2002 8:24:11 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: yendu bwam
Right. They want you to send your son out with a flaming gay, and for you not to even know. Parents will quietly abandon this program if they persist.

It's not just the parents of kids who will abandon the program. I was just talking a couple of days ago with my wife about a statistic I'd heard or read, that 25% of American kids don't have a dad in the home. We were talking about how good it might be for me to mentor some dadless boy, and that brought to mind this program. But if they're going to have gays participate, I don't think I'll be taking part.

14 posted on 07/30/2002 8:42:56 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
According to Wade Horn of the National Fatherhood Initiative, "Fifty percent of all white children and seventy-five percent of all black children born in the last two decades are likely to live for some portion of their childhood with only their mothers."

An amazing, not to mention depressing, factoid.

15 posted on 07/30/2002 8:49:11 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Christian churches need to step in and become mentors. I know there are gays everywhere but churches have abdicated their responsibility and we're reaping the consequences. They've abandoned inner cities, etc. I could go on and on about that. I do think now many of them are stepping up to the plate but certainly not enough. Gays in this organization? I am furious about that and madder yet that parents wouldn't be told. Goodbye, Big Brother, Big Sister. I don't think decent people will go for this one.
16 posted on 07/30/2002 9:13:56 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: yendu bwam
My son, who has forgiven his molester, wondered if the priest(s) in our local Catholic church had anything to do with that young man's perversion. You never can tell anymore.
17 posted on 07/30/2002 9:15:47 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
Goodbye, Big Brother, Big Sister.

We may wish to keep in mind BBBSA's corporate sponsors:

ARAMARK, Arby's Foundation, Do It Best, Footaction USA, Harlequin Enterprises Unlimited, Jack in the Box, Microsoft, NFL, Pillsbury, UPS, Valvoline, Verizon, and Warner Brothers Studios.

18 posted on 07/30/2002 9:21:32 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: yendu bwam
Bump!
19 posted on 07/30/2002 9:32:14 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: MurryMom
By the same logic, heterosexual men, making up a minority of the population and accounting for a large majority of sexual offenses against women, should be excluded as leaders in the Girls' Clubs. You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

Well, I will be please to answer that. I can certainly tell you that in an organization like the Boy Scouts, where kids go out camping on overnight trips with male leaders in the absence of parents, it would be CRAZY to have homosexual leaders. In the same way, the vast, vast majority of parents would not send out their teenage daughters with heterosexual men on overnight camping trips (maybe you would - the vast majority would not). In Big Brothers / Big Sisters, you have adults with sole access and supervision over these kids, in the absence of parents or other adults. A Big Brother can say anthing to his charge, model any behavior to his charge, or even try bad stuff, if he wants. BBBS is really stupid to allow this, as it will certainly lead to some homosexual molestations. The Boy Scouts suffered from a rash of homosxual molestations until it cracked down and established a kids' first policy protecting them from homosexual molestation. In the Catholic Church, we now have literally thousands of homosexual molestations against teenage boys (homosexual priests allowed one-on-one unsupervised supervision of teenage boys). Now, on the question of role models. I can certainly tell you, the vast, vast majority of parents don't want their sons going around town with a guy who says things like: "Wow, I like the way that guy's butt looks!" or "Gee, I'd love to go out with that man. He's so cute." Maybe you want that for your son. Most people don't. (And they're right to not want that!) Would you want your son going to the beach with a BBBS homosexual guy and changing in the bathhouse together? I sure wouldn't. (And I wouldn't allow my teenage daughter to put on her bathing suit in the presence of a heterosexual guy. Would you?) And finally, on your point, I don't know exactly what you mean by Girls' Clubs. I really don't think it's wise to have girls wholly supervised by a couple of heterosexual guys. I would really have to know the exact circumstances to know what I would think and allow for my daughter. But I think your problem is that you've lost your ability of discernment. These situations are not all the same. Big Brothers is talking about sole access of a homosexual man with a boy in the absence of any supervision. It's bad news. Boy Scouts puts kids and parents first. BBBS does not.

20 posted on 07/30/2002 10:09:15 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: MurryMom
Finally MurryMom, I would say to you that if the Catholic Church did not allow homosexual priests sole access to teenage boys, there would not have been a horrific scandal. Thousands of lives ruined, because the feelings of homosexuals were put higher in priority than the safety of children.
21 posted on 07/30/2002 10:11:21 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mikeb704
According to the American Psychological Association, "There is no evidence indicating that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children."

There being so many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, maybe this is true.
But heterosexual child molesters are not a political constituency!

22 posted on 07/30/2002 10:28:34 AM PDT by Salman
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To: MurryMom
You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you?

You think that you are being contentious but conservatives do tend to be consistent in our views. No. Men should not be Girl Scout Leaders. And neither should lesbians. There are two many coming out stories that start with a young girl being "brought out" by her leader at a campout. I suppose to a liberal those are heartwarming tales.

23 posted on 07/30/2002 10:48:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MurryMom
Girls' Clubs AND Girl Scouts. No men.
24 posted on 07/30/2002 10:49:49 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus
I guess I was stupid and old fashioned to think that Big Sisters mentored girls and Big Brothers mentored boys. What is wrong with me?
25 posted on 07/30/2002 11:05:40 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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To: Salman
But heterosexual child molesters are not a political constituency!

Don't let the DNC find out. It'll be organizing them, adding a special plank in the National platform, etc.

26 posted on 07/30/2002 11:12:00 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
In the pre-web 1970's (therefore no link) a NYC Big Brother went to the clink for pederasty. He used BB to find victims.
27 posted on 07/30/2002 11:27:20 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
In the pre-web 1970's (therefore no link) a NYC Big Brother went to the clink for pederasty. He used BB to find victims.

Well, using the logic of some, it was just about sex so we ought to just move on.

28 posted on 07/30/2002 11:33:38 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Thanks for the list. I appreciate it. M
29 posted on 07/30/2002 12:37:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
Thank YOU for taking the time to read the piece.
30 posted on 08/01/2002 5:38:18 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Let me see if I have this right. You take a youth in crisis, great or small, and you hook him up with a potential sexual predator. Then you stand back and see what happens. Who was the genius that thought this one up?
31 posted on 08/01/2002 5:48:41 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: MurryMom
"You agree with excluding heterosexual men as Girls' Club leaders, don't you? "

Actually I do agree. It may be the first time I have agreed with any of the liberal twaddle you regurgitate during one of your infrequent visits. I would not agree, however, that you would be a fit candidate to lead a group of girls. Your credentials are suspect to say the least.

32 posted on 08/01/2002 5:53:32 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Movemout
Who was the genius that thought this one up?

Sounds Clintonesque, doesn't it? But I guess he's too busy pulling combat duty at the River Jordan.

34 posted on 08/01/2002 11:55:04 AM PDT by mikeb704
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