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1 posted on 07/30/2002 12:39:27 PM PDT by 45Auto
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Patrick Henry
2 posted on 07/30/2002 12:44:09 PM PDT by 45Auto
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6 posted on 07/30/2002 1:02:28 PM PDT by VOA
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Henry continued: "Let Mr. Madison tell me when did liberty ever exist when the sword and the purse were given up from the people? Unless a miracle shall interpose, no nation ever did, nor ever can, retain its liberty after the loss of the sword and the purse!

Patrick Henry was a prophet. I wish that he'd been wrong about the Fedgov but, alas, he was right. We or our children shall have to deal with the unintended consequences.

7 posted on 07/30/2002 1:11:34 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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Have we the means of resisting disciplined armies, when our only defense, the militia, is put in the hands of Congress

Wonder what Patrick meant by "militia"?

Was it a term for "the people" or did he mean something like the National Guard?

8 posted on 07/30/2002 1:13:17 PM PDT by evad
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12 posted on 07/30/2002 1:59:35 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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"Your laws on impeachment are a sham and a mockery due to mutual implication of government officials!"

Since proven to be a valid assessment.

14 posted on 07/30/2002 2:12:39 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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". . . . and that the treaty-making power of the president was one of the Constitution's most fearful features and would lead us into the most ruinous of foreign engagements. "

That is only the half of it. The other half is that the fedgov has used its treaty-making powers to grab municipal control. LINK

Ruby Ridge was the enFORCEment of gun treaty laws.

Waco was the enFORCEment of gun treaty laws.

The enFORCEment of all gun laws are based upon Treaties.

The enFORCEment of all drug laws are based upon treaties.

All federal enFORCEment agencies engaged in executing jursidictional activities in domestic and municipal affairs of the states and over Citizens not explicitly provided for in the U.S. Constitution have derived their authority from treaty provisions.

These treaty provisions were ostensibly meant to remedy any offenses against the laws of nations. The problem here is that the Supreme Court has elevated these remedies, making them supreme over the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, regardless if the enFORCEment provisions violate states rights and the unalienable rights of Citizens.

Yes, Patrick Henry knew what future regimes were going to do, and they did it.

17 posted on 07/30/2002 3:08:37 PM PDT by Eastbound
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Good article. Patrick Henry -- would that we had men of his caliber in existence today.

Of course the 2nd Amendment pertains to each individual citizen -- the mere insinuation that it does not is ultimately a sad testament to the intellectual dishonesty of our day. Formed and propounded by elected statists, and aided and abetted by the useful idiots in the leftmedia, who erroneously dream that they will not be dangling at the end of a rope when their utility has ended.


20 posted on 07/31/2002 6:08:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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