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Radical Environmentalists Cut Army Down To Size
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | July 23, 2002 | Jane Chastain

Posted on 07/30/2002 1:55:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The most important hearing of the year was held on Capitol Hill last week on a critical issue this country faces today. No, you didn't hear about it because there was no press coverage.

The information that was presented was so damaging to the left that a petty squabble occurred over the ground rules. This kept the fate of this hearing in doubt until one minute before the witnesses were to be seated. As a result, the press was never alerted, which may have been the point. It was the Democrats' only avenue to prevent this information from getting out.

The hearing, on July 9, before the Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works was on military readiness. More specifically, it dealt with the impact our environmental laws are having on the military's ability to prepare our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines for the battlefield. General John Keane, vice chief of staff of the Army, said the problems created by these laws are "formidable."

He used Ft. Bragg, where our Special Forces and paratroopers are trained, as an example of the nonsense that now is bringing the military to its knees. At Ft. Bragg, the Army has been ordered to protect all the trees, in which birds might have or want to build a nest. In effect, every tree – and trees cover the majority of Ft. Bragg's 130,000 acres.

"We have a 250 foot buffer around each tree," Gen. Keane explained. "There can be no bivouacking or occupation for more than two hours at a time, no use of camouflage, no weapons fired other than 7.62 and 50 caliber blank ammunition, no use of generators or riot agents, no use of smoke grenades, no digging – that's tough on an army – and no vehicles closer than 50 feet."

In short, the Army cannot prepare these men for the real world of combat. Can you imagine asking a firefighter to train without smoke and then sending him to fight a major fire? Can you imagine training a police officer without real bullets? That is tantamount to what the military has been ordered to do.

Keane told those assembled how hard it is to face soldiers dealing with the reality of that impact on them. "They are in places that they wouldn't normally be or at a time they normally would not be there, because you can't make noise in order to protect the [nesting] cavities." We are talking about birds and trees here! The soldiers can't make noise because it might offend the birds. Let's get real!

The problems related by Keane are not unique to the Army. Each one of the vice-chiefs of staff had made himself available for this hearing. Each echoed Keane's concerns and told his own horror stories.

Unfortunately, this hearing was not held in the Senate Armed Services Committee where it belonged. Why? The House of Representatives included two provisions in the Defense authorization bill that would give the military a little relief. Before they could be debated properly in the upper chamber, all four of the environmental subcommittee chairmen: Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., Bob Graham, D-Fla., and Harry Reid, D-Nev., wrote to Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., and asked him not to deal with them. These Democrat senators maintained that the proposals were outside of his jurisdiction and should come under Environment and Public Works.

Then their lackey, chairman Jim Jeffords, I-Vt., simply stalled the hearing on this critical issue until the full Senate passed the Defense authorization bill without these important measures. Jeffords' all-Democrat staff even pulled off those last-minute shenanigans to keep the hearing in doubt until the last minute. When the hearing finally was held, not a single Democrat senator even bothered to show up. Even those aforementioned sub-committee chairmen ducked this hearing, as did our former first lady, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

This not only was an affront to the vice chiefs of staff, it was an affront to everyone who wears the uniform of the United States military. It was an affront to the parents of those young solders who will die needlessly in the war on terrorism because they will be sent into battle without the kind of training they will need to survive.

I know why those Democrat senators didn't show. They didn't want to admit that they consider trees, tortoises, snails, seagulls – even microscopic shrimp – more important than the lives of the men we are sending into battle to protect us.

To borrow some words from Gen. Keane, "There is an ever increasing tension between the two national goals of protecting the environment and military readiness, and it is out of balance and out of whack."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ecofreaks; enviralists; environmentalism; treehuggers; warlist

1 posted on 07/30/2002 1:55:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This country is already beaten if idiots like this are the ones calling the shots.
2 posted on 07/30/2002 2:03:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: *Enviralists; *war_list
Index Bump
3 posted on 07/30/2002 2:08:21 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My mother would have pulled switches from those precious trees and marched on the senate, God rest her soul. As she said to us kids many, many years ago, I'm going to beat some sense into you. And she did.
4 posted on 07/30/2002 2:11:17 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Blood of Tyrants
This, my friend, is precisely the plan!
5 posted on 07/30/2002 2:14:25 PM PDT by Dlta4ce
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I'm encouraged. The front page of (increasingly leftish) Discover Magazine devotes the whole front page of the september issue to (Global Warming Suprise) A New Ice Age.
"Oceanographers have discovered a huge river of freshwater in the Atlantic formed by melting polar ice. They warn it could soon bury the Gulf Stream, plunging North America and Europe into frigid winters

I would post the article but it's not on-line at the Discover Magazine site yet.

6 posted on 07/30/2002 2:17:52 PM PDT by blam
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"This country is already beaten if idiots like this are the ones calling the shots."

Between this and the 200 plus million dollar bill voted on today to help reduce the problem of fat Americans, I'm glad that the government has it's priorities in order. Hell, it's not like we're at war or anything.

And yes, we're beaten. With idiots like these running the nation, we'll be a French or Chinese colony very soon.
7 posted on 07/30/2002 2:19:10 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Tailgunner Joe
THE ENVIRONMENT JUST SIMPLY ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT!The whole thing is a sham,there is NO problem and NEVER has been.
8 posted on 07/30/2002 2:26:50 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I would ignore every one of those restrictions and thoroughly ravage that forest. Then let the liberal whiners who put birds above national security come after me. It could be the end of that enviro-extremist movement once and for all. We all know that these wackjobs can't endure the light of day.
9 posted on 07/30/2002 2:35:38 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: backhoe; madfly; Stand Watch Listen; brityank; OldFriend; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; ...
bump
10 posted on 07/30/2002 2:40:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Blood of Tyrants
This is because the American people are dumb as a box of rocks and it will saddle us with even more of the stupidos this November unless I am greatly mistaken.

Had the electorate any sense there might be one or two of these traitorous @$$holes in the Senate not 50.
11 posted on 07/30/2002 2:43:39 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BTTT!!!!!!
12 posted on 07/30/2002 2:52:24 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It's obviously not the cream that rises to the top. Ninety eight percent of those that make it into office come from scum floating on the top of the pond. Any time these weird things come to the surface, you can assure yourself, that they will only get worse, not better.

After 9-11 I felt sorry for those that thought some sanity would come to our borders and immigration. It's only gotten worse, the only attack has been on our Civil Liberties, and the same will happen with this. Even given the incredible year of fires that can be laid directly at the feet of environmental groups, the Forest Service, and the EPA, nothing will come of it except their power will grow more and things will be worse.

13 posted on 07/30/2002 2:53:56 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Fish out of Water
Ping for index.
14 posted on 07/30/2002 2:59:43 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: MissAmericanPie
Our leaders are much more intelligent than the masses that is why they are so easily led by the nose and generally re-elect the same evil shiites we are used to. Leaders are only as good as those who follow them and we have about as ignorant and stupid a population as has ever graced the face of the earth.

It will believe almost any lie no matter how transparent and cannot follow a simple though more than a couple of steps. If you ask any question of almost anyone you are almost immediately floundering in the stupidity which flows from our fellow citizens' mouths.

I wish I didn't believe this but have seen nothing that refutes this belief. :^( They learned nothing from 9/11.
15 posted on 07/30/2002 3:09:20 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: billhilly
Your Mom was absolutely right - good old common sense is what's needed here. I respect our environment, but if our military can't train to be the best they can be, where does that get us. It leaves America very vulnerable. When America is hit by a nuclear attack, what will the environmentalists have to say, if they are still alive. These people have no common sense - they don't have any sense at all and they must be stopped.
16 posted on 07/30/2002 3:21:41 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Email a copy of this article to every one of your friends.
17 posted on 07/30/2002 3:42:46 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the Defense Dept. had shown some concern for the environment in the past they would have more credibility on this issue now.
As of 1997, the estimated cost of remediating toxic contamination at California's 29 closing bases is $6.5 billion.
- California EPA
Cleaning the Rocky Mountain Arsenal near Denver is costing $2 billion.
18 posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:21 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
A lot of credibility there, go ahead and quote the EPA.
19 posted on 07/30/2002 4:05:35 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: Looking for Diogenes

20 posted on 07/30/2002 4:11:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: fogarty
A lot of credibility there, go ahead and quote the EPA.

They were the first numbers that came up in Google. Do you have more credible cost estimates? Post them.

21 posted on 07/30/2002 4:28:47 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: wildbill
I sent this article to everyone on my E mail list plus O'Reilly at FoxNews and put "Outrage of the Day" as the subject. When the readiness of the next unit is rated unsatisfactory due to training, Carl Levin will be the first one to blame Bush and the Sec Def. As I said before, who needs al Qaeda when we have the United States Senate?
22 posted on 07/30/2002 4:31:55 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: blam
Oh please, do bring on some frigid waters...........that would take care of global warming.....doncha think?
23 posted on 07/30/2002 4:34:07 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
"Oh please, do bring on some frigid waters...........that would take care of global warming.....doncha think?"

Yup, but then, we'd be held up by the FPEC (Food Producing Exporting Countries) cartel.

24 posted on 07/30/2002 5:26:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: fogarty
If you want numbers from a more credible source, how about an official in George H.W. Bush's administration?
In 1990 the DOD Inspector General estimated that cleaning up U.S. bases would cost $100-$200 billion. At $1.72 billion a year, the current rate of Pentagon spending on cleaning up its domestic mess, it could take a century to complete the task.
Or here are some numbers from an article in National Defense Magazine:
One of the recent successes was a signed agreement for the clean-up of the Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant in New Brighton, Minnesota. After 12 years of work, the Army has laid out a plan to deal with the plumes of groundwater pollution, said Newsome. Work should take about 10 years to complete and cost $300 million, said Newsome.

The Rocky Mountain Arsenal clean-up is mature, with active remediation under way and scheduled for completion in 2011 at a total cost of $1 billion, said Newsome.

Unexploded ordnance (UXO) will potentially cost the federal government $1 trillion to remove. It is both an environmental and a safety hazard.

Army's War Against Waste Rages On


25 posted on 07/30/2002 6:31:16 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
It seems to me that your numbers indicate that the DoD is very much taking care of environmental cleanups. It appears to me that they are, in fact, putting forth a lot more effort than even private industry in cleaning up after themselves

I can tell you from personal experience that the bases I've been stationed took better care of the environment than even ordinary civilians.

Now tell me, do you actually think it is sane to put soldiers lives on the line for the sake of some trees and birds? You must admit that the environmental restrictions on Ft Bragg and many other posts are ridiculous.

Do you actually think the enemies of the US (Al Qaeda) would actually care better for the environment? If not, then let us not tie our soldiers hands with ludicrous restrictions like mentioned in this article.

26 posted on 07/30/2002 8:09:04 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: fogarty
You must admit that the environmental restrictions on Ft Bragg and many other posts are ridiculous.

I do agree.

My point is that they probably would not have other officials holding them to such high restrictions if they had a better track record.

I'll also grant that they are learnng. The article I posted from has many examples of how the Army is, in some cases slowly, changing its ways. But they have a long way to go.

The top three clean-up projects are at Rocky Mountain Arsenal in Colorado; Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland; and the Massachusetts Military Reservation...

In Massachusetts, the Army and Air Force are teamed up to identify the environmental hazards at the military reservation. "We haven't come to grips with the problem there yet," said Newsome, who gave no timeline for the project.

In this case they don't even have a 'grip' or a plan to clean up one of their highest priority sites.

Do you actually think the enemies of the US (Al Qaeda) would actually care better for the environment? If not, then let us not tie our soldiers hands with ludicrous restrictions like mentioned in this article.

There will always be enemies, foreign and domestic, who don't care about America's toxic waste problems. Did the Kaiser? Did Hitler? No, and we're still cleaning up the messes from those two wars. Did we win those wars because the Army chose to pour chemicals into the ground instead of into barrels? I doubt it.

27 posted on 07/30/2002 8:26:59 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thank you for posting this.... I saw it over on the Klamathbasincrisis.org page and waw going to post it, but you've already done the leg work.

ENVIRO-WACKO CRUSHING BLOW BUMP!

28 posted on 07/30/2002 8:31:22 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump!
29 posted on 07/30/2002 9:09:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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