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Drug Raid Raises Concerns (Abuse of Anti-Terror Law)
Detroit News ^ | August 1, 2002 | Karen Bouffard

Posted on 08/01/2002 11:09:47 AM PDT by gdani

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Blood of Tyrants
Bump the list in # 2 also.

It needs a number 11 though:
"By the time you notice this process taking place (its too late)"
41 posted on 08/01/2002 1:42:00 PM PDT by Thisiswhoweare
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is a great post.

Is it part of something else? Or does it stand alone?

42 posted on 08/01/2002 1:47:51 PM PDT by dead
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To: dirtboy
They said we needed this bill to fight terrorism. A lot of freepers said it would be used for other purposes, and were scoffed at.

I was one of those "scoffed" at, and I agree with your statements 100%. I'm still waiting for new comments from those that assured me that "the bill only applies to foreigners, after all, not American citizens." Yeah right.

43 posted on 08/01/2002 1:53:55 PM PDT by serinde
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To: gdani
bump
44 posted on 08/01/2002 2:20:12 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
They're only doing what they've seen Ashcroft and company do.

45 posted on 08/01/2002 2:24:31 PM PDT by OWK
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The reality of your post is frighteningly accurate.
46 posted on 08/01/2002 2:36:32 PM PDT by Zon
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To: OWK; coloradan; MileHi; tpaine; sinkspur; Congressman Billybob
bump again...
47 posted on 08/01/2002 2:58:05 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: WindMinstrel; woofie; Demidog; DoughtyOne; HalfIrish
ping
48 posted on 08/01/2002 3:02:25 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Clara Lou; Wallaby; ATOMIC_PUNK; MissAmericanPie; Kaslin; MeeknMing; Maelstrom; PJ-Comix; AuntB; ...
ping
49 posted on 08/01/2002 3:08:48 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: gdani
Everyone could. Look, I'm not of the Liberterian vent, but you guys have my full support when you go ofter the abuses of the new laws. This is absolute bull sh_t and even the dimest of people should recognize it.

I have not trusted Ashcroft and his assurances that the Patriot act laws and others he has up his sleave are in the best interest of the citizens of the United States. This one alone is a crime in and of itself. Where is this families right to due process and the assurance of an open and above board process?

This stinks to high heavens.

50 posted on 08/01/2002 3:16:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
family's... grrrrrrr
51 posted on 08/01/2002 3:17:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Rebump your #2!
52 posted on 08/01/2002 3:31:29 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: everyone
Man, is it Ever quiet in here!
Calling all bushbots! You are needed on aisle One.


53 posted on 08/01/2002 3:36:53 PM PDT by Area51
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To: OWK
indeed. The totalitarian structure is almost entirely in place... long past the point of no return.

as long as they get all the deadbeat dads, erase poverty and hunger, eliminate drugs and guns I guess going to war with a spectre is useful.... (see yesterdays "HHS" raids by tommy thompson...) We simply feel better with declaring WAR on any and everything that 51 percent of us can agree is evil. I want to start a war on hangnails myself... wanna join?

soccer mommies feel so much safer with Bush at the helm.

How many "non specific" wars does this make for us now? WOG, WOD, WOT, WO DBD, WO Pov? (I KNOW I skipped a few like the War on Hangnails) AND question part deux... WHAT would americans do if we actually declared a REAL war on specific persons, places or nations? You know, like the founding fathers insisted??


What did those stupid old dead guys know anyways?
54 posted on 08/01/2002 3:58:57 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: DoughtyOne
bump
55 posted on 08/01/2002 4:23:53 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dead
I found it on another board and it struck such a cord that I posted it here. I have no idea about the origins.
56 posted on 08/01/2002 4:32:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: gdani
Hmmm...my instincts would tell me to resist such an assault by this bunch, and that would most likely prove fatal. Especially against 15-20 ninja clad goons armed to the teeth. The sane approach would be to fight it in the courts, try and go after their personal assets (if possible - I am not a lawyer). If that didn't work, the only course of action left would be a move toward a covert campaign of revenge, make their lives miserable through a series of dirty tricks.
57 posted on 08/01/2002 4:33:10 PM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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To: dead
P.S. from this site http://www.giwersworld.org/mgiwer/govrules.html

He has some good stuff and some stuff waaayyy out there.
58 posted on 08/01/2002 4:37:01 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: dirtboy
thanks for the ping :)
59 posted on 08/01/2002 4:55:58 PM PDT by sweet_diane
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Not one supporter of the Patriot Act has come into this thread to debate this matter. This is serious stuff, but hardly any one seems to care...
60 posted on 08/01/2002 6:27:44 PM PDT by dirtboy
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