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UFOs, ancient aircraft, NASA coverup, mumbo-jumbo etc etc (Hmmmmm + tinfoil alert)

Posted on 08/03/2002 7:24:12 AM PDT by spetznaz

Egyptian Temple Wall in Abydos with panel above columns

Egyptian Temple Wall Panel on which the images are raised

Is this an Ancient Helicopter?

Is this an Ancient Aircraft?

Another Ancient Aircraft?

A small model of what has been called a "glider" plane was found in a museum in Cairo. Its body was just over 6" long and its wingspan was a little over 7". Made of light sycamore wood, it would glide a short distance when thrown by hand. Other models of aircraft have been found in Egypt and South America. One of them bears a striking resemblance to a modern delta-winged jet!

Sanskrit texts are filled with references to gods who fought battles in the sky using Vimanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times. For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:

"The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will .... that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky."

".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."

In the Mahabharatra, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying. Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisible in some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'. Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:

"Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendour. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messaenger of death which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas."

It is important to note, that these kinds of records are not isolated. They can be cross-correlated with similiar reports in other ancient civilizations. The after-affects of this Iron Thunderbolt have an ominously recognizable ring. Apparently, those killed by it were so burnt that their corpses were unidentifiable. The survivors fared little etter, as it caused their hair and nails to fall out.

Perhaps the most disturbing and challenging, information about these allegedly mythical Vimanas in the ancient records is that there are some matter-of-fact records, describing how to build one. In their way, the instructions are quite precise.

In the Sanskrit Samarangana Sutradhara, it is written:

"Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

The Hakatha (Laws of the Babylonians) states quite unambiguously: "The privilege of operating a flying machine is great. The knowledge of flight is among the most ancient of our inheritances. A gift from 'those from upon high'. We received it from them as a means of saving many lives."


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ancientaircraft; godsgravesglyphs; mahabarat; ramayana; strangesightings; ufo; vimana
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To: dennisw
I remember him mentioning transistors, and night vision glasses in interview with him on tv
62 posted on 08/03/2002 10:53:21 AM PDT by palo verde
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To: Confederate Keyester
Many people convinced of the existence of 'Nibiru', the Sumerian name for Planet X, consider its reappearance in the planetary zone to be imminent.

"...and there will be signs in the sky..."

Very, very interesting. ...she said, as she pulled her tin foil cape closer about her shoulders... ; * )

63 posted on 08/03/2002 10:58:23 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: dennisw
From your link you provided:

With the cataclysmic sinking of Atlantis and the wiping out of Rama with atomic weapons, the world collapsed into a "stone age" of sorts, and modern history picks up a few thousand years later. Yet, it would seem that not all the Vimanas and Vailixi of Rama and Atlantis were gone. Built to last for thousands of of years, many of them would still be in use, as evidenced by Ashoka's "Nine Unknown Men" and the Lhasa manuscript.

That secret societies or "Brotherhoods" of exceptional, "enlightened" human beings -- [Illuminati ???] would have preserved these inventions and the knowledge of science, history, etc., does not seem surprising. Many well known historical personages including Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tzu, Confucius, Krishna, Zoroaster, Mahavira, Quetzalcoatl, Akhenaton, Moses, and more recent inventors and of course many other people who will probably remain anonymous, were probably members of such a secret organization.

It is interesting to note that when Alexander the Great invaded India more than two thousand years ago, his historians chronicled that at one point they were attacked by "flying, fiery shields" that dove at his army and frightened the cavalry. These "flying saucers" did not use any atomic bombs or beam weapons on Alexander's army however, perhaps out of benevolence, and Alexander went on to conquer India.

So occasionally do we have an atomic/nuclear war that wipes out almost all life on earth. Reduces us once again to a stoneage. Then the handful of survivors start all over again? Like Adam and Eve. Like Noah. ?????

64 posted on 08/03/2002 11:19:41 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: spetznaz
Is that Rare Bear just below and to the right of the helicopter?

More about Rare Bear here

Reno is only 5 weeks away!!!

65 posted on 08/03/2002 11:22:34 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Frank_Discussion
This is a fascinating thread today!
66 posted on 08/03/2002 11:23:03 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: dubyagee
Just go to the site. There is a picture there and a text that explains how these images came together.

http://www.finart.be/UfocomHq/usabydos.htm
67 posted on 08/03/2002 12:07:13 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
The strange hieroglyphs are the result of a recutting of the texts - the original signs were covered in plaster, and new ones cut into the surface. This plaster has now fallen out, leaving images that look rather like modern items!

Yes, I can see how the "helicopter" image may have accidentally occurred. But still, it is very coincidental and strange that these modern looking vessels would accidentally occur, all right there together.

68 posted on 08/03/2002 12:17:37 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: dubyagee
There are still things that cannot be explained, one is coincidence.

Like how is it possible mostly it starts to rain when I go outside. Our why bad things happen always when you least need them.
69 posted on 08/03/2002 12:21:34 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
There are still things that cannot be explained, one is coincidence.

I don't believe in coincidences. I believe everything happens for a reason. But, I do think that site provides a perfectly plausible explanation for what occurred on this particular stone.

70 posted on 08/03/2002 12:28:01 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: BullDog108
/One of Art Bell's frequent guests.

You forgot to remind everbody that Hoagland (lovingly known in the a.f.a-b ng as "Hoaxland") was a former advisor
to Walter Cronkite (during Apollo), good friend of Arthur C. Clarke, best buddies with Gene Roddenberry,
and, gadfly to NASA (not that they don't deserve it, and I'm hard pressed to come up with a better PITA).

The mold on Hoagie's resume is so old that the EPA is fighting with the CDC to decide whether it's a
candidate for a Superfund site, or a unique life form.

Oh, and he is supposedly involved in a "Face on Mars" movie, and you can be in it, too. I think all you have to do
is buy his book and fax your acting portfolio to his broken fax machine whenever they can afford to fix it.

(I think he was claiming to be the first person to say there was ice/water on Mars. I (thankfully) fell asleep at that point.

71 posted on 08/03/2002 12:45:45 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Jaxter
LOL! Years ago, I worked a Summer job with a guy that also worked at a day camp. He and his charges did a similar
(and cheaper - paper & chalk) thing with his car when Skylab's demise was imminent. Made the local paper/TV.

Kids had a great time.

72 posted on 08/03/2002 12:56:07 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
All I knew about him was he was a constant guest on the show. I never listen to it, cannot stand the constant commercials. Grrrrrrr. A decade ago I had a girlfriend in Reno that would tape the shows minus the ads, and I listened with amusement...
73 posted on 08/03/2002 1:32:10 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: BullDog108
...the constant commercials.

Yeah, they were pretty bad. They've back off a bit.

I record the show on the pc, and play it back processed at a faster rate. Less the commercials, a half hour
segment can be sped up to about 10-12 minutes, depending on the voices.

I'm so backed up, I'm still listening/skipping shows from March (EIC commercials are driving me nuts).

Art's been out with a bad back. Either taking too much HGH or lifting all that gold since he says his sponsor claims its a good time buy (-:.

74 posted on 08/03/2002 2:01:19 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: knighthawk
palimpsest

A plaster palimpsest. Makes sense. The figures appear to be figures on top of figures.

75 posted on 08/03/2002 2:20:16 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Calvin Locke
Whatever happened to that time-traveler dude?
76 posted on 08/03/2002 2:26:06 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: BullDog108; Calvin Locke
my favorite guest was Dannion Brinkley
I read his first two books
I dont know if he ever finished writing his 3rd book
77 posted on 08/03/2002 2:53:35 PM PDT by palo verde
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To: BullDog108
Before my time [as a listener], and I've only started recording since late last year.

But I did hear Art a few weeks ago, say a couple of his guests have disappeared from the radar screen...

Whether that means they're stashed in some gov't warehouse, a mental institution, or a county lockup on charges of fraud, I dinna ken.p> Recently listened to an mp3 of a radio production of HG Wells "Time Machine" with Leonard Nimoy, and the
"Time Traveller" went back to the future for better proof, and never returned.

78 posted on 08/03/2002 3:03:57 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: palo verde
I met a professor at Texas Tech. who worked on the stealth bomber sheeth/paint or whatever it is called. He said they brought him in a piece of it and he had to figure out how to make it "cannon proof". He worked on many projects like this. I didn't have the nerve to ask him where the material came from, I have always heard it came from a UFO originally. He told us of several projects like that he worked on, deveoping materials, etc. He is working on something now to replace Balsa wood, so they don't have to cut down the trees. He is a fascinating person. I won't mention his name here without permission.
79 posted on 08/03/2002 3:17:31 PM PDT by buffyt
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To: Calvin Locke
Whether that means they're stashed in some gov't warehouse, a mental institution, or a county lockup on charges of fraud, I dinna ken

LOL!

What about that sphere of bio-stuff that crashed into Africa? Remember that? And the Earth was supposed to be sterile by now (2002).

Art Bell is a complete whack-job fraud. But he is a good entertainer.

80 posted on 08/03/2002 3:22:30 PM PDT by BullDog108
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