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Christian Designs Found In Tomb Stones Of Eastern Han Dynasty
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| 8-2-2002
Posted on 08/04/2002 3:00:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: PaulKersey
I get the picture: Strong's definition makes no sense (Strongs Concordance)Using the definition "whelp" for gentile makes no sense. I did not say Strong's Condordance makes no sense in every case. Do not misrepresent what I said.
Lost Tribe doesn't know what he is talking about.
Yes, I think that is self-evident.
Placing the designation of "Jew" ... after the Babylonian captivity ... is completely arbritrary
Yes, it is arbitrary, since the English language did not even exist in those times and the original (Hebrew) language makes no such distinction.
To: Inyokern
The Hebrew language is a very crude and abstract (~imprecise~) language, quite unsuited to be the only pillar of your "theological" position.
Nothing else supports your position. IOW, you are building your tilting house on a foundation of shifting sand. The Title Company will never insure it, and no one will ever buy it.
FORGETABOUT IT !
To: PaulKersey
The Hebrew language is a very crude and abstract (~imprecise~) language, quite unsuited to be the only pillar of your "theological" position. You may not realize it, but the Hebrew language is the pillar of much of Christian theology as well. Did you think the Old Testament was originally written in English? All of the prophesies were written in Hebrew and translated into other languages.
The New Testament was written in Greek, but translated from Aramaic, which is not much more precise than Hebrew.
So, obviously, if my theology is built on shifting sand, so is yours.
To: Inyokern
So, obviously, if my theology is built on shifting sand, so is yours.That argument has all the intellectual charm of "My Dad can whip your Dad." Oh, yeah! Wanna bet?
To: PaulKersey
That argument has all the intellectual charm of "My Dad can whip your Dad." Oh, yeah! Wanna bet?I am merely saying that all Jewish and Christian theology is ultimately based on the Hebrew language, which is admittedly imprecise. The fact that the Hebrew text has been translated into other languages does not magically make it any more precise.
To: Inyokern
>The fact that the Hebrew text has been translated into other languages does not magically make it any more precise.
I'm glad we found something to agree about.
Of course that is not to say the Hebrew language is Jewish, for it is not. It's roots are Israelite. Jews were merely the custodians of the Hebrew language after the Israelites from the north began their long journey.
To: PaulKersey
Of course that is not to say the Hebrew language is Jewish, for it is not. It's roots are Israelite. Jews were merely the custodians of the Hebrew language after the Israelites from the north began their long journey.Now you are confusing the word "Israelite" with the post-Solomonic northern kingdom of Israel. The word Israelite applies to Jews as well as to the northern kingdom. The Jews are the only Israelites still known to exist.
To say that the Jews are merely the "custodians" of the Hebrew language is incorrect. Virtually the entire Old Testament after the 5 books of Moses was written by Jews, including all of the books of the prophets. All of the later prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, etc. were Jews.
To: Inyokern
To say that the Jews are merely the "custodians" of the Hebrew language is incorrect.How then did Jews "create" the Hebrew language?
Virtually the entire Old Testament after the 5 books of Moses was written by Jews, including all of the books of the prophets. All of the later prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, etc. were Jews.
So what does that prove? The Jews were still merely users of the Hebrew language. They did not create the language, and as far as I'm concerned they do not own it. I don't know where or when the Hebrew language began, but it was long long before there were any jews.
To: LostTribe
This makes a lot more sense since my Chinese readings.
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:53:40 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Wow!
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posted on
10/13/2002 6:41:48 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: aruanan
I have heard that scholars are now admitting that there is a lot of historical content in the Abraham story, things they didn't see until the information was dug up.
111
posted on
10/13/2002 6:44:38 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: farmfriend
Please put in the GGG files, thanks.
112
posted on
12/05/2003 6:27:10 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; abner; Alas Babylon!; Andyman; annyokie; bd476; BiffWondercat; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.
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posted on
12/05/2003 6:28:56 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: blam
Bump for later read.
114
posted on
12/05/2003 6:30:50 PM PST
by
k2blader
(Haruspex, beware.)
To: blam
, Christian theology professor Wang Weifan was greatly surprised by some stone engravings
demonstrating the Bible stories and designs of early Christian times.
It shouldn't come as a suprise to the good professor.
After all, it was named "The GREAT Commission"!
Side-bar; I've heard that if current trends continue, Mainland China will be
one-third Christian by 2050 and that there are about an estimated 97 million Christians
in the underground/home church movement (not sanctioned by the ChiComm government).
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posted on
12/05/2003 6:37:33 PM PST
by
VOA
To: Inyokern
The other tribes would not be gentile from a Jewish perspective because the Jews would not consider them gentile. How many ways can that be said? There are those "experts" who cannot be bothered to learn the Jewish perspective about anything. The ideas "Lost Tribe" is expressing are from the 19th century movement called "British Israelism" -- basically, the belief that the Celtic and Anglo-Saxon peoples are the Lost Tribes of Israel. Evidently, they believed that God is a practical joker -- why else would He have all these Jews go to the Synagogue, study Hebrew, etc. for thousands of years while all along the "real" Israelites were revelling in their Aryan purity in Scotland, England, Germany, etc.
The modern offshoot of British Israelism is the so-called Christian Identity movement, by the way. While the followers British Israelism were content to believe that the British Empire was the Kingdom of God on earth, the members of the Christian Identity movememt seem to have a fetish for the Third Reich. Their idea of heaven seems more like hell to me. Do a search for "Christian Identity" and you will quickly find some very unsavory things.
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posted on
12/05/2003 8:59:16 PM PST
by
Wilhelm Tell
(Lurking since 1997!)
To: blam; Jeff Gordon
Several years ago (early 90's) I heard that men were being trained for the priesthood in Israel. I haven't heard much since then, but if there is DNA evidence linking men back to the tribe of Levi that is indeed incredible news.
Especially if the Ark of the Covenant and the temple items have been found: Wyatt Archeological Research
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posted on
12/05/2003 10:48:25 PM PST
by
yhwhsman
("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
To: LostTribe
"Indeed, there is lots of extra-Biblical evidence to suggest he traveled very widely outside the region, including to France and England. Other evidence suggests he traveled to India. Did he also travel to South America???"
There's extraordinary evidence of His travels, are there not? The Lord had to go to Egypt for a while as a Youngster.
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posted on
12/06/2003 3:51:14 AM PST
by
Ff--150
(that we through His poverty might be rich)
To: LostTribe
You are right the lost tribes did migrate and did regain their Israeli identity.The kazars fit the bill, heathen tribe from the black sea area migrates from old assyria region chooses Judaism instead of islam or christianity.Why? No other group did maybe the lost sheep heard their master?
To: trussell
BTTT
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posted on
02/06/2004 5:07:23 PM PST
by
carpio
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