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Stop Bush's 'Wag the Dog' Invasion of Iraq, Democrats Urge (Vomit Bag Material)
CNS NEWS.COM ^ | 8-5-02 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 08/05/2002 7:47:42 AM PDT by KLT

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To: KLT
"They're really moronic allegations," said Michael Waller, vice president of the Center for Security Policy. "It's the same foolishness that Tip O'Neill accused President Reagan of, when Reagan invaded Grenada in what ended up being a hugely popular operation."

The DemonRATS are desperate, and soooo outta step with the American Sheeple on this and many other issues!! November's gonna be an electoral bloodbath fer the HateAmericaFirst crowd of DemonRATS, which is pretty much all of them!!

FReegards...MUD

21 posted on 08/05/2002 8:33:02 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: philosofy123
"It is WAG THE DOG!"

And you are a MORON!!

SHEEEESH...MUD

22 posted on 08/05/2002 8:34:52 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: KLT
Whatever you want to call it, we're being railroaded into a war. The proper way to do it is to have a national debate, in the public sphere and in Congress.

And please don't anyone say "But that would warn Saddam!" Saddam knows the US is thinking of invading him.

I heard one radio pundit theorize that Cheney is only pretending to be upset over "leaks." Bush/Cheney may indeed be the source of the leaks they're complaining about. Why? To signal to Saddam that the US is planning an invasion -- and thus frighten his generals into staging a coup.

I no more believe anything Bush/Cheney says than I believed Clinton/Gore. The State lies, regardless of who's in office.

Saddam has weapons of mass destruction? So does China. He's a bad man? So are dozens of dictators around the world. That's no reason to wage war. No 9/11 connection has been proven. This is the globalists' war, and "conservatives" are being played like puppets.

23 posted on 08/05/2002 8:37:52 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
"Last I checked the Constitution, war can only be declared by Congress. Wag the dog was wrong when Slick did it, and it's wrong when Bush does it.

Consitutionality and "wagging the dog" are two completely different issues. As best I can tell, the current discussion pertains to the latter. If one wants to criticize Bush for declaring war without the consent of Congress, that's one thing. But to suggest that Bush is fabricating a war for the purposes of electing Republicans to Congress (i.e. wagging the dog), well then I think you are going to get a lot more argument. Bush has been discussing military action against Iraq since at least January. Everyone has known it is coming at some point in the near future, and many Democrats are aboard. Finally, everyone knows that the best time to conduct military activity in the Iraqi desert is during the winter months, which means preparation must begin in the late summer or early fall.

24 posted on 08/05/2002 8:38:49 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Mudboy Slim
The DemonRATS are desperate, and soooo outta step with the American Sheeple on this and many other issues!! November's gonna be an electoral bloodbath fer the HateAmericaFirst crowd of DemonRATS, which is pretty much all of them!!

Couldn't have worded it better myself...my good friend and patriot...Come down to the land of liberalgoons and visit...you'll see Hitleryclintoooon 's constituency...

25 posted on 08/05/2002 8:38:55 AM PDT by KLT
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To: Mudboy Slim
You are not a moron, you are a tax and spend NEOCON?
26 posted on 08/05/2002 8:41:00 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Mudboy Slim
MUD, you are right....some people don't see with their eyes or hear with their ears...Saddam is tied into all these attacks and anyone who doesn't believe it...is nieve...
27 posted on 08/05/2002 8:43:20 AM PDT by KLT
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To: Commie Basher
I no more believe anything Bush/Cheney says than I believed Clinton/Gore. The State lies, regardless of who's in office.

Yup. A very good philiosphy to live by.

Saddam has weapons of mass destruction? So does China. He's a bad man? So are dozens of dictators around the world. That's no reason to wage war. No 9/11 connection has been proven. This is the globalists' war, and "conservatives" are being played like puppets.

In deed. "Conservatives" oppose anything a Democrat does. But, when we have to point out GW's "globalist agenda", "conservatives" turn their heads, refuse to look at the evidence amd call us "tin-foilers". Its sad people are so stubborn.

28 posted on 08/05/2002 8:43:37 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Commie Basher
"Wag the dog was wrong when Slick did it, and it's wrong when Bush does it.

The EX-Rapist-in-Chief was in danger of being RE-Impeached when he decided to butt in the middle of a Civil War on the side of ethnic Albanian Muslim fanatics who were infiltrating Serbian/Christian lands in Kosovo...a.k.a. Wagging the Dog!!

Meanwhile, a record-breakingly-popular POTUS--Dubyuh--and America are looking to preemptively take out a ruthless dictator who is aggressively working to obtain Nuclear Weaponry--within the next 3-5 years--to threaten American cities with annihilation...a.k.a. Defending America Against Terrorist Attack!!

Capiche?! MUD

29 posted on 08/05/2002 8:43:38 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: philosofy123; Mudboy Slim
You are not a moron, you are a tax and spend NEOCON?

Uh oh, I think MUD is gonna be upset...

30 posted on 08/05/2002 8:45:10 AM PDT by KLT
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To: KLT
Sorry Mud, may be I wanted to say don't loose the focus on the Islamic terrorists!
31 posted on 08/05/2002 8:47:51 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
"...a tax and spend NEOCON?"

Hah...Isolationism is an option that no longer is available to America. To argue otherwise puts one in the tinfoil-hat-wearin' GoPatGo crowd...still. We needn't be the World's policeman, but we sure as heck shouldn't sit here with our collective thumbs up our buttocks waiting for Saddam Hussein to start sabre-rattlin' with live nukes at his disposal!!

If Clinton hadn't depleted our military stores, Hussein would already be a footnote in history; and as soon as we get the proper military resources in place, he and his bloodthirsty minions will be destroyed and the Iraqi Sheeple will celebrate their liberation!!

Neocon, my arse...LOL!!

MUD

32 posted on 08/05/2002 8:50:58 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: zhabotinsky
Germans would rather vote for a moon man than a Bavarian.

Coming from a long line of them, I can't see why. But what you say is true.

33 posted on 08/05/2002 8:51:17 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Mudboy Slim
a ruthless dictator who is aggressively working to obtain Nuclear Weaponry--within the next 3-5 years--to threaten American cities with annihilation

Well of course he's trying to beef up his military -- we keep threatening to invade him!

If the US returned to its pre-1898 policy of neutrality, nobody would want to "threaten American cities" with terrorism.

Saddam only invaded Kuwait after the Bush administration gave him permission to invade Kuwait. And he used weapons that we supplied him for his war with Iran.

And now Bush II tells us Saddam, out of all the dictators in all the gin joints in the world, is the one that we must invade.

What I "capiche" is that US foreign policy keeps playing global policeman, bombing this and that nation, interfering in the affairs of others -- then expresses incredulity when someone hits back. And sadly, Joe Six-Pack buys whatever Washington tells him.

34 posted on 08/05/2002 8:54:44 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: philosofy123
"...don't loose the focus on the Islamic terrorists!"

Sorry backatcha...I know you ain't a moron any more than I'm a neocon. But, IMHO, taking down Hussein--an Islamic Terrorist in his own right--will be a key foundation block in destroying Muslim fanaticism world-wide.

PaleoCon FReegards...MUD

35 posted on 08/05/2002 8:55:38 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Jagdgewehr
You come from a lone line of moon men?
36 posted on 08/05/2002 8:56:42 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Mudboy Slim
OK, MUD, can you simply answer one question:

If we only got 80 billion dollars, and 200,000 soldiers to work with, would it better if we used them on combating Islamic terrorists or combating a dictator. Remember, Mr. Ritter, the UN inspector said that Saddam does not have much left to cause a danger! The 19 hijackers were Saudis, and Egyptians Islamic fanatics. Thanks.

38 posted on 08/05/2002 9:01:59 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Mudboy Slim
Do you honestly think that if you have a choice between taking down the Iranians Mullahs or taking down Saddam, you would choose Saddam?
39 posted on 08/05/2002 9:05:35 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Commie Basher
"If the US returned to its pre-1898 policy of neutrality, nobody would want to "threaten American cities" with terrorism. "

ROFLMAO!!! What color's the sky in that nether-World you live in?! We ain't Switzerland, C.B., we're the most powerful Nation in the history of the World, with the greatest stash of treasure to boot. You don't actually think that a weakened KoomBuyYah America wouldn't be overrun by whatever Huns wanted to take by force that which we've built over the years? Don't forget, in 1898, it took weeks to get from Europe to America, so Isolationism was somewhat viable...NOT TODAY, not by a long shot.

"Saddam only invaded Kuwait after the Bush administration gave him permission to invade Kuwait."

That's an out-and-out lie that only a DemonRAT Troll would actually post, or else a useful idiot who's got too much of his info from DemonRAT trolls...which is it in yer case?!

"And now Bush II tells us Saddam, out of all the dictators in all the gin joints in the world, is the one that we must invade."

As good a place to start as any, wouldn't you agree?!

"What I "capiche" is that US foreign policy keeps playing global policeman, bombing this and that nation, interfering in the affairs of others -- then expresses incredulity when someone hits back. And sadly, Joe Six-Pack buys whatever Washington tells him."

Trying to saddle Dubyuh with the Vile, Murderous Policy Mistakes of his Oval Office Predecessor is intellectually-lazy and wrong-headed...Hussein will be history in the not-too-distant future, and all of the MidEast will benefit from the change in leadership.

MUD

40 posted on 08/05/2002 9:07:50 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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