Skip to comments.Clinton's Black Hawk History - On Somalia, the ex-president is as mendacious as ever ~ WSJ.
Posted on 08/06/2002 2:40:34 AM PDT by Elle Bee
Clinton's Black Hawk History
We wish Bill Clinton a quiet retirement, if only he'd return the favor. But when the former President distorts history for the sake of political advantage, someone has to clean up afterward.
Responding to Bush Administration suggestions that some of today's corporate scandals first got out of hand under his watch, Mr. Clinton recently shot back: "These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
We can understand Mr. Clinton wanting to defend himself, but as usual he can't get his own facts straight. His introduction of Somalia here is one of those breathtakingly brazen attempts to dodge responsibility for which Mr. Clinton is justly famous. Here's the real history:
President Bush the Elder sent U.S. forces into Somalia in December 1992 to aid the United Nations in relieving a massive famine. In May of 1993, four months into his term, President Clinton declared that mission accomplished and pulled out most of the U.S. forces. In a speech on the South Lawn to associate himself with the effort, he extolled the decision to intervene: "If all of you who served had not gone, it is absolutely certain that tens of thousands would have died by now." It was a "successful mission," he said, and "proved yet again that American leadership can help to mobilize international action ..."
But back in Somalia, with no U.S. deterrent, Somalia's warlords began fighting again. After a series of bloody attacks on U.N. peacekeepers, Mr. Clinton launched a new mission: In August 1993, he sent in a force of Rangers and Special Forces units to capture the brutal warlord Mohammad Farrah Aidid and restore order.
That force asked for heavy armor -- in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles -- as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.
Many military experts believe that if the U.S. forces had had armor, fewer would have died. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin resigned two months after Somalia, having acknowledged that his decision on the armor had been an error. A 1994 Senate Armed Services Committee investigation reached the same conclusion. But perhaps the most poignant statement came from retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Joyce, father of Sergeant Casey Joyce, a Ranger killed in Mogadishu: "Had there been armor ... I contend that my son would probably be alive today ..."
Mr. Clinton's responsibility in Somalia doesn't stop there. Despite the mistakes that October day, Aidid had been struck a blow. The U.S. military, with 18 dead, wanted nothing more than to finish what it had started. Mr. Clinton instead aborted the mission. The U.S. released the criminals it had captured that same day at such great cost, and the U.N., lacking U.S. support, was powerless to keep order. Somalia remains a lawless, impoverished nation. Worse, the terrorists of al Qaeda interpreted the U.S. retreat from Somalia as a sign of American weakness that may have convinced them we could be induced to retreat from the Middle East if they took their attacks to the U.S. homeland.
Those are the facts. The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events had nothing to do with him. They were Mr. Clinton's responsibility, and his alone.
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These things we tend to laugh at, but if are not taken care of, come back years later to haunt us.
It seems as though Yossi Beilen and Shimon Peres have been giving Clinton lessons on how to exploit the masses.
In the name of Israel, I apologize!
Aspin was a lousy Secretary of Defense but at least he took responsibility by resigning. Janet Reno said she took full responsibility for the Waco debacle but she didn't take the step for showing responsibility by resigning. Most recently, Bob Torricelli said he took responsibility for taking (and lying about) illegal gifts. He made it sound that by merely saying that he was taking responsibilty (but taking no actions) was a meritorious thing. And of course, Clinton, won't even take responsibility for anything. He just shuffles it off on others...such as Bush1.
No! No! Don't you LISTEN to Clinton? He actually told that to Bush.
After reading this a couple of weeks ago I was outraged so I decided to watch 'Black Hawk Down' to see what kind of blame was bestowed on the 'toon and his admin.
Out of the entire movie, some 2 hrs., there was ONE line that said, Washington in their wisdom does not see fit to send the requested equipment." Clintoon's name was not mentioned once.
Just keeping on flapping your gums you scum sucking bastard, you only expose yourself for the lying reprobate that you are with every utterance.
". . . I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
No, obviously you couldn't--then. But you seem to think you can insinuate that now.
Here's a good question for the next Democratic presidential candidate:Who was the last good Democratic Secretary of Defense?Cohen was a Republican, they can't say him . . .
Aspen resigned in disgrace, can't say him . . .
Who can remember Jimmy Carter's SecDef???
Would they dare name McNamara???
You greedy @%#@@!
Like hell, he didn't! He might as well have pulled the trigger himself except that he's too much of a coward to have even done that.
But we all know anyway who was responsible and its clear that ze Klinton did'nt do anything to stop terrorism during his term in office.
I hadn't read that. Do you have a source I can see?
In other words, SHUT THE HELL UP, Bubba!
. . . and Clinton didn't ask for her resignation, either--so actually he is "responsible." In a manner of speaking; you can't actually use that name and that word in the same sentance, of course.
When the Marine barracks bombing occured Reagan declined to assign responsibility to the commanders on site, and a reporter asked Reagan if he was going to resign! Somehow that thought never occurred to a reporter after Waco, when massive civilian deaths followed federal agents' initiative . . .
. . . and Bush2 simultaneously, in this case. A twofer.
. . . after a moment's reflection it hit me--Clinton is a disruptor. If x42 himself were posting on FR, his words would be pulled by the moderator for creating flame wars. We're barking up the wrong tree, even discussing the creep.
Agreed. Without publicity, he does not exist. At least in his own mind. What better way to wipe him off the planet than obscurity?
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There was an excellent two hour program on The History Channel Sunday with the author of the book Black Hawk Down. In addition, there were the vets that were in Somalia commenting on this mission.
These men were upset that they didn't get to finish what was started. The militiamen of Somalia believe they have defeated the U.S. because Clinton pulled the troops out.
One vet on this program said, they would have kept fighting until not one building was left standing.
The most upsetting thing to see are our soldiers being dragged through the streets of Mogedishu (sp?)
Clinton is a POS!
I believe there is a lot of truth in what you say - however in the final analysis, historical truth usually wins. The lefties may try to change it, but as the effects of history lie all around us, it's not really possible. Even when Stalin controlled all academia in the USSR, it was not possible to conceal the extent of the Great Terror. It only requires a few historians who are willing to tell the truth, and God grant we never run out of those.
doug...can you clear this up?
Following the May 23 presentation at the White House, the families of the two men were invited into the Oval Office for a private visit with Clinton. Inside the office, the father of Sergeant Shughart refused to shake Clinton's hand, then look him in the face and calmly told him that he was responsible for his son's death, that it was for no purpose, that he was not fit to be President, and nto fit to be Commander in Chief.
Clinton was visibly shocked, amazed, and momentarily speechless. It is revealing that he was surprised that the man should feel that way. Clinton really doesn't think the way most people do, seeming to lack a sense of personal responsibility. After a brief, awkward silence, Clinton caught his breath. Becoming angry, he turned to the mother of the dead hero and said, "What's he jumping on me for? I didn't kill the kid!"
Yes, he really did say that--to the bereaved mother--he really did. It was an eloquent demonstration of Clinton's insensitivity, and of his absolute inability to understand sacrifice and responsibility."
......from the CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK
And so it will be with Clinton to a lessor extent. No one will ever say he was a "Great President". Enough has come out to tarnish him in even the common man's eyes. But we have seen only the tip of the ice berg when it comes to Clinton's depravity, crimes, and even treason. And I think much of this story is known by our media and political elite. It will come out in dribs and drabs but it will come out. In 30 years time Clinton will be regarded as perhpas the most vile Politician in our history. But it will take years as he has his wormlike toady defenders as TIme Magazine has yet again demostrated.
She came STORMING into my room and demanded to know everything I knew about Bill Clinton and what he did or did not do.
You can bet I forwarded her this article the SECOND I saw it.
Always try to stay ahead of the spin. GOOD WORK on your part.
Rush covered this today. Apparently there's a book coming out depicting the impeached *One in a not-so-great light. This Time piece was to head things off at the pass. I don't think it's working...