Wildlife Director Pushes Cooperation With Ranchers

The Albuquerque Journal (subscription required) ^ | August 5, 2002 | Tania Soussan

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[BOBTHENAILER]

That probably would be the Bisti/De-na-zin Wilderness near Farmington

That's the one.

So, you were in the "Belly of the Beast", so to speak. That must have been tough.

I agree, let's hope Dale can sweep out the stables.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

[Muleteam1]

>>So, you were in the "Belly of the Beast", so to speak. That must have been tough.<<

If you see your friend, tell him the NM Field Supervisor (J. Propst) at the NM Field Office was removed from her job after I left the Regional Office. I can imagine that it was her and her group that met with your friend on the Bisti issue. Her husband headed a well-known enviro group and she dealt with everyone in a very condescending manner. If may have been Dale Hall who removed her but I don't know for sure. It was a very good move though, whoever did it.

Muleteam1

[BOBTHENAILER]

If you see your friend, tell him the NM Field Supervisor (J. Propst) at the NM Field Office was removed from her job after I left the Regional Office. I can imagine that it was her and her group that met with your friend on the Bisti issue. Her husband headed a well-known enviro group and she dealt with everyone in a very condescending manner

I talk to him once or twice a week. We're drilling some wells around Roswell right now. The lady you referred to might be the one.

I remember him telling me one of the bureaucrats he dealt with was female. Maybe, he would be somewhat better off knowing his nemesis was gone, but not much.

That scenario was an outright "taking", inasmuch as he acquired the leases before the Bisti was on the radar screen, there were proven reserves underlying the leases and he spent a small fortune in acquisition, seismic, geological work, surveying and permitting. Not to mention legal fees.

At any rate, you know well what he went through, I would imagine. Thanks for the info.

[Muleteam1]

Ah yes, Roswell. Many years ago, while doing biological research on the Waste Isolation Pilot Project (WIPP) site southeast of Carlsbad, I used to drive through Roswell about every two weeks. Last summer I visited for the first time the UFO Museum there. What a gas!

Unconstitution "taking" is essentially redefined by the Endangered Species Act and other wildlife laws. Most politicians (certainly Dems., but also Reps.) simply turn their heads when it happens. I am now retired, but I have always been on the political side that wishes to return to the Constitution and not some liberalized version of it.

Muleteam1

[BOBTHENAILER]

but I have always been on the political side that wishes to return to the Constitution and not some liberalized version of it.

You and me both. Its always refreshing to see people like yourself who pursue a career based on knowledge and expertise, rather than those you described who go into a certain field with an agenda.

Ever get into the mountains around that area, Cloudcroft & Riudoso? Beautiful country.

The malpais around Lincoln County...like the moon, then on over to the White Sands Missile Range and Parks area?

[cajun-jack]

how the hell does anyone know what species have moved onto your land if they are not tresspassing????? if something that is endangered moves on to my land...it immediately becomes "endangered" for real.....kill it, bury it, and deny it....

[BOBTHENAILER]

how the hell does anyone know what species have moved onto your land if they are not tresspassing?????

ROFLMAO Great question, and I like your solution even better.

[Muleteam1]

Thank you for the compliment.

>>Ever get into the mountains around that area, Cloudcroft & Riudoso? Beautiful country.<<

Indeed it is. I was over at Cloudcroft and Ruidosa about two months ago picking up a building heating unit. Although I am now retired, I have to manage my family's commercial property and this keeps me pretty close to home nowadays.

>>The malpais around Lincoln County...like the moon, then on over to the White Sands Missile Range and Parks area?<<

Yes, the malpais is definately a moonscape, but strangely interesting, especially to one like me who had never seen volcanics until I came to beautiful New Mexico in the mid 1960s.

White Sands is also an interesting place isn't it? Just tons and tons of snow white gypsum blowout. Many years ago I interviewed for a wildlife biology position out at the Missle Range. I probably should be glad I didn't get that hot desert job, but it surely would have been interesting.

Muleteam1

[Muleteam1]

>>if something that is endangered moves on to my land...it immediately becomes "endangered" for real.....kill it, bury it, and deny it....

Cajun Jack,

I am now retired but I spent many years working with the Endangered Species Act (ESA), and your response is not uncommon among landowners who face endangered species issues around their property. I tried unsuccessfully for many years to convince Federal biologists that a hardline approach to the ESA is like two parents in a bitter divorce who allow the children to become secondary to their own arguments. The children get hurt and everyone loses. Needless to say some biologists listened to me, most did not because many are agenda- and/or politically- driven to take a hardline approach. Now I must tell you, our many native species are a part of our American heritage and species diversity is as smart as stock diversity. Please argue with the arrogant and pig-headed biologists, but try to protect the species.

Muleteam1