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The nobleness of black conservatives: Limbaugh describes vilification, scorn endured by new leader
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| Friday, August 9, 2002
| David Limbaugh
Posted on 08/08/2002 10:55:20 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: mhking
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To: JohnHuang2
Walter Williams for President.
It's good to have supplies ready for the future!
To: JohnHuang2
Jesse Lee Peterson and blacks like him must not be allowed to escape the Liberal Plantation. And if they have escaped, others must be dissuaded from following them. What I'm going to say next may be politically incorrect and some might be tempted to censor this but here goes: the irony of liberals' stand against black conservatives is that far from being advocates for black freedom, they're in fact advocates of continued black slavery. Slavery to liberal dogma is even worse than slavery of the body back when slavery was still legal in this country. If a black person is not allowed to think for himself as he or she pleases, she's really not that different from someone who is owned by another person. Liberals' real fear is that if blacks are freed from mental bondage, the days of the Liberal Plantation will be over. Peterson and others have shown through their courage it's possible to end liberal tyranny over black people. And once that picks up steam, rest assured America will never be the same again. Let's hear it for the unspoken and unacclaimed heroes of extending personal freedom to all Americans.
To: PoorMuttly
Speaking of Walter Williams.... He was on H & C tonight, talking about how arch-conservatives are whispering about a possiblity we'll all move to one state (New Hampshire?), peacefully take over the state legislature, then threaten to secede from the Union if D.C. doesn't get its act together and return to the principles of our constitution! (I'm packing!)
Also, my good friend Re-Joyce (speaker at MFJ in '98) was relating to me that she has several black conservative friends here in Houston. They don't speak out because they're AFRAID of making waves in the hood. Sad!
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posted on
08/08/2002 11:12:23 PM PDT
by
Humidston
To: JohnHuang2
There's a great book on this issue - "It's OK to Leave the Plantation" by C. Mason Weaver. Mr. Weaver is a conservative and financially successful black man. He was a radical, liberal activist during his college days at UC Berkeley. He saw the light.
To: goldstategop
BINGO!
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posted on
08/08/2002 11:38:16 PM PDT
by
goodieD
To: JohnHuang2
"After arguing that Peterson had nothing much to contribute to the debate, Dyson offered his opinion as to why this "ignorant" black conservative is given so much airtime "on countless radio and television programs. The answer," wrote Dyson, "should be obvious: His brand of painful self-hatred, and hence, his hatred of other blacks, plays well in certain white conservative audiences."
This Dyson guy was on The Factor lastnight. I wish Bill would have asked him about that last bit and if he really meant to infer that white conservatives are racist.
To: JohnHuang2
There's still a chance that some "liberals" are sincere about their convictions on race and minority uplift -- but there's no chance at all for someone who, like Dyson, spews hatred like a fire hydrant at anyone who dares to disagree with him.
What, after all, has Reverend Peterson been saying? That racial reparations are unjust to whites and would be destructive toward blacks. This is a point that Dyson could have taken issue with, had he any concrete arguments to make. That he chose instead to attack Reverend Peterson's motives and self-concept indicates that he has nothing substantive to say. He wants what he wants, and he wants it now.
This isn't just hatred; it's the sign of an infantile personality, a baby who never learned any technique for getting what he wants but the tantrum. It might well suggest that the proper way to deal with leftist racialists is to shame them in public for their "gimme" mentality. Ask them in front of audiences: Don't you think you and yours could make it on your own? Is the only cure for your self-revilement to have whitey pay your bills and perform therapy on you?
One final thought: Ultimately, venom geysers like Dyson's are a positive sign. Americans aren't stupid, and their patience isn't inexhaustible. with a few more incidents like these, they'll shrug off the shroud of unearned guilt and insist that the time of expiation is over. No more free rides! If you want us to think of you as equals, you'll just have to "root, hog, or die" like us melanin-deficient types.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:37:05 AM PDT
by
fporretto
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Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:49:08 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: goldstategop
Slavery to liberal dogma is even worse than slavery of the body back when slavery was still legal in this country. If a black person is not allowed to think for himself as he or she pleases, she's really not that different from someone who is owned by another person. Yeah, Robert E. Lee, an abolitionist, said that if they just release slaves into the general population it would be a disaster. They should first be broken free of the slave mindset, then released, or they would continue mentally as slaves.
He was right.
What we have today is the slave industry of welfare. The guvmint has effectively annexed the slave trade in America, not for commerce, but for votes of the pro-statist Democrat party.
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08/09/2002 4:51:58 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
To: Prince Caspian
Book Description
"This book discusses the "plantation mentality" that is causing Americans to become co-dependent. It is historical however does look at the authors personal journey from a Berekely militant to a conservative businessman."
--from Amazon.com's description.
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:54:48 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: Texas_Jarhead
I wish Bill would have asked him about that last bit and if he really meant to infer that white conservatives are racist.Dyson not only infers that white conservatives are racist, he says it in multiple forums. If you go back and review old columns by him, if you see any other interviews he's done, if you see him on C-Span, you hear the venom dripping from him and his words.
Dyson is in the same vein as Julianne Malveaux - he hates and despises anyone, black or white, who is of a conservative bent.
I'm just disappointed that the Sun-Times continues to give him a venue to spit his venom. If there were a white columnist with the kind of hatred for blacks that Dyson espouses for whites, America would have his head. But because he's going against conservative blacks and whites, he's given a pass.
More business as usual.
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:59:22 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: Texas_Jarhead
I wish Bill would have asked him about that last bit and if he really meant to infer that white conservatives are racist. o'reilly is too pedantic by (at least) half, and only peripherally conservative ...
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posted on
08/09/2002 5:03:12 AM PDT
by
tomkat
To: JohnHuang2
I simply can't imagine anyone attempting to discredit Thomas Sowell who has actually read any of his work. Several of the books he's written are among the great social commentaries of western civilization. Three of them:
Racial America,
The Vision of The Anointed and
Knowledge and Decisions are as profound and well researched works I've ever read. And in the case of
Knowledge and Decisions it has changed my life, and my work more than any other publication.
His work is characterized by a clear spoken common sense that not only describes a social or economic condition, but provides clearly documented examples and analysis that bears any scrutiny. Those that disagree with him do so risk of their perceived authority, because they will have no tools to use but rhetorical assertion, and denial of evidence (which he will usually have as footnoted references).
You can't attack a man like that without damaging your own credibility.
Ann Coulter, (whose work I also enjoy) uses the same kind of easy hand with facts that liberals use, only she does so from another perspective. Thomas Sowell doesn't use a liberals tools with language. Instead he explains that what a liberal calls a fact is usually just rhetoric backed by circular logic, and can only be preserved by denial of ample evidence. Ann fights fire with fire, while Dr. Sowell fights fire by proving that it isn't a fire at all. It may be a picture of a fire, or someone may have said fire once, but that doesn't mean the house is burning.
I highly recommend reading his work.
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posted on
08/09/2002 5:16:17 AM PDT
by
tcostell
To: Humidston
It was great. Williams called Alan "Hannity's B***" Colmes a socialist to his face. Colmes tried to weasel out with the typical "Excuse me, Excuse me...I am a capitalist, a liberal capitalist".
I love it when people call socialists on their game, and all the socialists can do is reveal how aware they are of the loathesomeness of their views.
To: Humidston
possiblity we'll all move to one state (New Hampshire?), peacefully take over the state legislature He mentioned http://www.freestateproject.org
To: JohnHuang2
Just consider the mistreatment Justice Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Alan Keyes, Ward Connerly, [Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson] and many others have received for years. And it is not just from other blacks. White people (liberals) are even permitted to call these blacks names with impunity. The list of true contemporary heroes is much longer than this. Shelby Steele, Star Parker, JC Watts, Ken Hamblin, Armstrong Williams and of course FRs own Michael King are all equally important in amplifying the message that conservatism works regardless of the color of your skin.
To: JohnHuang2
It shows in the Black community like the Democrat Party you have to toe the line or else. There is no room for individual thought.You walk in lockstep or we disrespect and disregard you.
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posted on
08/09/2002 6:57:27 AM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: tomkat; Texas_Jarhead
Texas_Jarhead said: I wish Bill would have asked him about that last bit and if he really meant to infer that white conservatives are racist.tomkat said: o'reilly is too pedantic by (at least) half, and only peripherally conservative ...
I doubt that if Bill had read this article he would have skipped that question. Bill is one of the few journalists who have the guts to ask those kinds of questions.... but only when he has the facts or quotes to back him up.
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