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Not Getting Any
New York Sun ^ | 8/9/02 | EDITORIALS & OPINION

Posted on 08/09/2002 10:37:09 AM PDT by Lockbox

Not Getting Any

- So, in New York in 2002, the intersection of HIV-AIDS advocacy, racial outreach, and sex education has come to this: the city is spending $1 million of taxpayers’ money to plaster the city with advertisements, including one with two cuddling scantily clad African-Americans and the message:

He calls you sweet baby

And sweet sugar plum.

If he won’t wear a ______

He ain’t getting none.

The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene actually announced this campaign with a press release in which the city’s health and mental hygiene commissioner, Thomas Frieden, proclaimed that the ad campaign “targets demographic groups with the greatest risk for HIV,” including “sexually active women of color between the ages of 16 and 30.”

Well, the idea of targeting people “of color” with a city-funded ad that uses the phrase “ain’t getting none” strikes us as it ain’t none too good. It’s bad enough that the city’s public schools are failing to teach students, many of them minorities, proper English. But for the city to reinforce the improper English with advertising based on the assumption that people of color speak using double negatives and “ain’t” — it boggles the mind.

We’re hardly the guardians of political correctness on racial or for that matter any other matters, so we called around to test our own reaction with some of the city’s civil rights leaders. The interim CEO of the New York Urban League, Adrian Lewis, made clear that she was speaking on her own behalf and not that of the league. But she said, “Any time you blanket an entire group of people with one form of language or colloquialism, it is unfortunate.”

The executive director of the New York Civil Rights Coalition, Michael Meyers, called the ad “offensive.” “It’s insulting to resort to stereotypes when standard English can communicate your point,” he said. “Why can’t the Health Department speak plainly to black people without using the vernacular? Black people and Hispanic people can speak and read standard English.”

The national spokesman for the Congress of Racial Equality, Niger Innis, called the ad “very unfortunate.” “It sounds like it is promoting a negative stereotype of African Americans,” Mr. Innis said. “We get enough of it through rap videos. We don’t need the city of New York to become part of one problem while trying to solve another problem.”

The director of health, media and marketing for the department of health and mental hygiene, Jeffrey Escoffier, defends the ad, saying no one has complained to the department about the ad’s grammar. “We’re trying to save lives… We’re trying to reach people,” he said. “Those little poems have a sense of humor to them.” Mayor Bloomberg’s name appears at the bottom of the ad. A spokesman for Mr. Bloomberg, Jordan Barowitz, responded to our inquiry about the matter by asking, “Are you [expletive] kidding?” and then demanding to know what editor at The New York Sun had put the reporter up to asking about the matter.

Our own view is that if the mayor is going to be spending a million dollars of taxpayer money on condom ads with his name at the bottom, his spokesman ought to be willing to at least entertain questions about the matter without breaking out into vulgarity. The mayor and his aides might find the ads an example of humor. But there’s nothing funny about being condescended to.


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1 posted on 08/09/2002 10:37:09 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox; dighton; aculeus; general_re
“Those little poems have a sense of humor to them.”

How come I didn't laugh?

2 posted on 08/09/2002 10:39:53 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Lockbox
What next? A pimp and some ho's? A rendition of "My Ho Betta Have My Money"?
3 posted on 08/09/2002 10:40:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Lockbox
What's the _______ and why was the word not used?
4 posted on 08/09/2002 10:41:32 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Lockbox
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene actually announced this campaign with a press release in which the city?s health and mental hygiene commissioner, Thomas Frieden, proclaimed that the ad campaign "targets demographic groups with the greatest risk for HIV," including "sexually active women of color between the ages of 16 and 30."

Why don't they target queers?

Shalom.

5 posted on 08/09/2002 10:47:26 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

6 posted on 08/09/2002 10:50:21 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Orual; aculeus; general_re; MinuteGal; parsifal; tet68
Roses are red,
A fast Italian sports car ain't cheap,
Man it's hot outside,
This poem don't even rhyme or scan or nothing.
7 posted on 08/09/2002 10:52:47 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Khepera
Ping.

Why don't they target queers?

Shalom.

8 posted on 08/09/2002 10:53:49 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Why don't they target queers?
He calls you sweet baby
And sweet sugar plum.
If he won’t wear a ______
He ain’t getting none.
They did.
9 posted on 08/09/2002 10:56:11 AM PDT by watchin
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To: dighton
doesn't, please. ;^)
10 posted on 08/09/2002 10:56:11 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: watchin
They did.

If they really wanted to reduce the incidence of HIV they would run the following: (ahem, ahem)

He calls you sweet baby
Or sweet sugar plum.
If you ain't a she
He ain't gettin' none.

Shalom.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 11:03:14 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: dighton
"He calls you, "My Bitch"
And , "Get me a Beer!"
If He don't beat you up.
You think heaven is near.

You know he is "doing"
every slut on the block
You can taste them every time
he makes you ____ __ ____!

The mayor spends Millions
to make you aware.
While you just want to wash
that goop from your hair.

Your girl friends all say,
"He's such a BAD man!"
But they're all doing him,
while you're in the can.

12 posted on 08/09/2002 11:09:24 AM PDT by tet68
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To: BikerNYC
Because "Trojan, Latex, 1 each" doesn't rhyme.
13 posted on 08/09/2002 11:11:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: tet68

14 posted on 08/09/2002 11:16:02 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Lockbox
The national spokesman for the Congress of Racial Equality, Niger Innis,

careful how yo pronounce muh name, whitey!

15 posted on 08/09/2002 11:17:52 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Orual; dighton
...it boggles the mind.

Speaking of bad grammar.

16 posted on 08/09/2002 11:22:17 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Orual; dighton; aculeus
The NYC Department of Health promotes the spread of AIDS - that old double-negative strikes again.

He calls you sweet baby
And sweet sugar plum.
If he won’t wear a ______
He is getting some.

17 posted on 08/09/2002 11:24:08 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
"I didn't shoot no cashier."

"Book him."

18 posted on 08/09/2002 11:27:33 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Romulus
...it boggles the mind. / Speaking of bad grammar.

Hmmmm. Transitive admitted to Webster's II and III, but with a scarlet dial.

20 posted on 08/09/2002 11:44:15 AM PDT by dighton
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To: ArGee
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
21 posted on 08/09/2002 11:44:54 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: one_particular_harbour
Repeating:
Niger Innis is one of the good guys
22 posted on 08/09/2002 11:46:36 AM PDT by MrB
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To: Lockbox
Whatever happened to this message:

He calls you sweet baby
And sweet sugar plum.
If he won’t wear a wedding ring
He ain’t getting none.

23 posted on 08/09/2002 11:47:36 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
They should have called in Maya Angelou.
24 posted on 08/09/2002 11:58:22 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: robertpaulsen
Whatever happened to this message:

He calls you sweet baby
And sweet sugar plum.
If he won?t wear a wedding ring
He ain?t getting none.

Bump for an outstanding poem.

Although I might say, if he won't wear your wedding ring...

Shalom.

25 posted on 08/09/2002 12:28:54 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: tet68
LOL
26 posted on 08/09/2002 12:30:16 PM PDT by order_of_reason
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To: BikerNYC
"What's the _______ and why was the word not used?"

Condom, and it is usd on the poster
27 posted on 08/09/2002 1:53:17 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: ArGee
"Why don't they target queers?"

NYC has such an ad.
They have two gay guys and some text about using a condom
28 posted on 08/09/2002 1:54:39 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: Lockbox
"Let us roll."
29 posted on 08/09/2002 1:55:07 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Lockbox
Niger Innis? Is this Roy Innis' boy?
30 posted on 08/09/2002 2:03:46 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Lockbox
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

"Mental Hygiene"???

Good grief.

31 posted on 08/09/2002 2:05:41 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Old Professer
Niger Innis? Is this Roy Innis' boy?

Yes! And both of them, and the Congress Of Racial Equality are conservative now, which is why you never hear the media mention them anymore!!

32 posted on 08/09/2002 2:19:17 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lockbox
The national spokesman for the Congress of Racial Equality, Niger Innis, called the ad “very unfortunate.” “It sounds like it is promoting a negative stereotype of African Americans,” Mr. Innis said.

Having listened to countless African-American college and professional athletes being interviewed on TV over a period of many years, I would say that this negative stereotype has been in place for quite a long time.

33 posted on 08/09/2002 2:50:11 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Lockbox
Dynamo Hum.
Dynamo Hum.
If he don’t wear a ______
He ain’t getting numb.


34 posted on 08/09/2002 3:24:20 PM PDT by faintpraise
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To: Lockbox
He calls you sweet baby
And sweet sugar plum.
If they would abstain from gay sex and dirty needles
We wouldnt be in the mess of aids and condoms
36 posted on 08/09/2002 3:42:19 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: tet68
Your poem is much better. I look forward to seeing it plastered in adverts on the sides of NYC busses...............
37 posted on 08/09/2002 3:45:20 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Lockbox
They should try some Burma Shave style signs along local bus routes.
38 posted on 08/09/2002 3:48:51 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: APBaer
Condom, and it is usd on the poster.

The Sun actually thinks the word "condom" in and of itself is so offensive as to be unprintable? If so, that's exactly the sort of thing that's going to lead to their ultimate demise. Manhattan is not Bumblefart, Mississippi, where the entire town might shun you forever if you're ever caught exclaiming "Oh my God!" instead of "Oh my gosh!" Whether conservative or liberal, we are sophisticated and intelligent and do not need to be shielded from mere words, especially when almost nobody else on the planet thinks the word is profane. I find their patronizing attitude towards their readers more offensive than the ads.

39 posted on 08/09/2002 3:52:28 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: dighton
Gosh, and I thought,

Shake it
Don't break it
Wrap it up
And I'll take it.

was the nadir of this type of poetry. Or is it zenith? Apogee? Oh,heck, the height. The height. parsy who is lost for the right durn word.

PS: Ever heard of Sax Rohmer? I just bought one of his books. And I got "From Opium Fiend to Preacher" by A.P. Quirmbach, 1907. parsy who broke for buying books.
40 posted on 08/09/2002 4:11:09 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: parsifal
Well, here's my quick contributions:

You want me to get freaky
And to bend like I'm elastic
Well it ain't gonna happen
If you ain't wearing plastic.

parsy, whose posse is on Broadway.
41 posted on 08/09/2002 4:16:51 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: parsifal
Verse two:

Well I'm sorry you're unhappy
And you feel so dejected.
But I done told you once
That I must be respected!

But you jumped before looked
When you should have reflected.
Now we ain't getting freaky
Cause you ain't pro-tected.

grandmaster parsy.
42 posted on 08/09/2002 4:21:02 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: parsifal
You go, Parsy!
Two turntables and a microphone!
43 posted on 08/09/2002 4:28:38 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: parsifal
I never read Sax Rohmer, but he looks promising.
44 posted on 08/09/2002 4:35:01 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Timesink; aculeus
The Sun actually thinks the word "condom" in and of itself is so offensive as to be unprintable?

That is just plain weird.

45 posted on 08/09/2002 4:37:11 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
I loved Fu Manchu movies, but this is the first book. I found out something interesting in the book last nite. English people sometimes put the initials of the city they are from after their name. In the book there is a Cosmo Potter, K.C.. (Kansas City). I think that is neat. parsy, L.R.
46 posted on 08/10/2002 6:42:15 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: parsifal
You're incorrigible.

I read somewhere that CMG = Call Me God, KCMG = Kindly Call Me God, and GCMG = God Calls Me God.

47 posted on 08/10/2002 6:59:30 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Willie Green
"Mental Hygiene"???

Sounds like a PC term for brainwashing.

48 posted on 08/10/2002 7:39:51 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: dighton
i went to your link. I can not help but ponder whether the "Climax of Empire" was accompanied by the proper prophylactic protocols. parsy.
49 posted on 08/10/2002 10:00:50 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: tet68
My goodness. I'm saving that one!
50 posted on 08/10/2002 10:07:00 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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