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Posted on 08/09/2002 9:10:09 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

National Park Service Ranger Killed in Shooting Near U.S.-Mexico Border

The Associated Press

TUCSON, Ariz. Aug. 9 — A National Park Service ranger was killed Friday in a shootout with suspected smugglers near the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said.

The ranger was responding, along with the U.S. Border Patrol, to a call for assistance from Mexican authorities who were chasing two men in a vehicle that crossed the border into the Organ Pipe National Monument.

Authorities were still investigating what happened, and it wasn't immediately clear why the men were being chased.

Dale Thompson, chief park ranger at the monument, said the shootout took place about 100 yards north of the border in a rugged stretch of desert known for both drug and people smuggling.

The ranger's identity wasn't released.


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1 posted on 08/09/2002 9:10:09 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
And we can't have the military on the border? BS!
2 posted on 08/09/2002 9:14:55 PM PDT by umgud
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To: InvisibleChurch
When are we going to get serious? What was it that was being smuggled? It might have been drugs. It might have been people. It might have been plutonium-235. It might have been sarin gas.
We don't know. And nowadays what you don't know can kill you!
This administration shows little stomach for straightening out the terrible situation we have with both Canada & Mexico. Why?
3 posted on 08/09/2002 9:14:58 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: sweetliberty; Travelgirl; pulaskibush; wirestripper; FreetheSouth!; Budge; steplock
Ping/Bump/Check it out!
4 posted on 08/09/2002 10:18:38 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: InvisibleChurch
I hope this young man didn't die and vain, and that in the future we patrol with Apache gunships!!! Damn this makes me crazy!!! First they shoot at our agents, (mexican military), and now a "smuggler" kills one of our own. Smuggler or not, Fox ought to be held accountable for this ACT OF WAR!!!!
5 posted on 08/09/2002 10:35:03 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: InvisibleChurch
Of course this will be ignored just like the Mexican military intrusions across our border. I remember when I was proud of our nation. I can no longer say that, in fact, I marvel that I EVER trusted a politician of any stripe.
6 posted on 08/10/2002 12:21:47 AM PDT by brat
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To: InvisibleChurch
The ranger was responding, along with the U.S. Border Patrol, to a call for assistance from Mexican authorities who were chasing two men in a vehicle that crossed the border into the Organ Pipe National Monument.

Sounds like the perpetrators didn't fork over the required bribes to the Mexican police so they sicced the Americans on them. Reminds me of an old Townes Van Zandt song:

All the federales say
They could've had him any day
They only let him slip away... Pancho and Lefty

7 posted on 08/10/2002 12:23:27 AM PDT by ravinson
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8 posted on 08/10/2002 6:18:20 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
An act of war is committed against the US and Bush slams beers with Fox at the ranch. Bush doesn't seem to care about American citizens much. Maybe someone should check that his papers aren't fake.
9 posted on 08/10/2002 6:47:12 AM PDT by gaffin
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To: thegreatbeast
This administration shows little stomach for straightening out the terrible situation we have with both Canada & Mexico. Why?

Because it isn't capable of doing it. Government has become almost completely impotent. It "misplaces" billions of dollars along with top secret info, weapons, and computers, and it is failing in even protecting citizens from homegrown thugs. Soon, we're going to have to find new ways of protecting our homes and families and new forms of government. Don't ask me how that will work, but what we have now certainly doesn't work.

10 posted on 08/10/2002 7:01:33 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX; flamefront; Drill Alaska; healey22; lutine; Right_Makes_Might; wku man; ...
Heads ought to be rolling both in the state house and in the beltway for not putting the military on the border in force to stop this invasion, drug smuggling, and killing of Americans. Oh, that's right. Incompetent buffoon Tom Ridge says that the administration won't do that because of "historical and cultural reasons", neither of which have been explained. Enough.

Here's the latest on this incident.

Saturday, August 10, 2002

Ranger killed in shootout

Death linked to hit squad that killed 4, officials say

By Ignacio Ibarra and Tim Steller
ARIZONA DAILY STAR

A National Park Service ranger at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument was killed in a shootout with suspected smugglers Friday afternoon, said deputy Nicole Feldt of the Pima County Sheriff's Department.

At least one other man, believed to be a Mexican citizen, was also shot and killed and another was in custody, said Edward "Bud" Tuffly, president of the union of Border Patrol agents in Southern Arizona.

The ranger's identity was being withheld Friday pending family notification.

Mexican officials said the shooting is linked to a quadruple murder that occurred in Mexico on Thursday.

Thursday night, federal police arrested a 19-year-old who said he had participated in the contract murder of four people, said Miguel Francisco Lopez Castro, regional head of the Sonoran Attorney General's Office.

The man, Jesus Martin Yescas Zazueta, said he had come from Tijuana to carry out those killings and others for someone nicknamed "El Zarco," Lopez Castro said.

About 9 a.m. Friday, police found the four bodies about 10 miles west of Sonoyta, Lopez Castro said. Three of the victims had their arms tied behind their backs and a gunshot to the head. The other victim was untied and shot multiple times.

After that discovery, 60 officers were called in from around Sonora to look for the suspected mastermind and avert further confrontations between the hit men and their remaining targets.

Officers found "El Zarco," whose real name is Panfilo Murillo Aguila, about 1 p.m. Friday just southeast of the Lukeville port of entry.

Shooting ensued, and Mexican officials called authorities to warn them Murillo Aguila and a companion were heading north.

The ranger who was killed and Border Patrol agents were in the area when Murillo Aguila and the companion reached the border. The ranger was responding with U.S. Border Patrol agents to a call for assistance from Mexican authorities about three miles east of Lukeville, according to Dale Thompson, chief park ranger at Organ Pipe National Monument.

It's unclear whether it was Murillo Aguila or his companion who was killed by the gunfire. The survivor was arrested by U.S. authorities.

The incident is under investigation by the Pima County Sheriff's Department and the FBI, which did not return phone calls to its Phoenix office Friday.

Reports of the shooting's exact location varied, but Feldt said it took place near Puerto Blanco Loop Drive, a dirt road that runs through the national monument west of Arizona 85.

U.S. Border Patrol spokesman Ryan Scudder in Tucson confirmed that U.S. Border Patrol agents were on the ground and in a helicopter overhead when the shooting occurred, but referred all other questions to the Sheriff's Department and FBI.

Tuffly said a Border Patrol agent and the ranger were together on foot, although not necessarily near one another, when the shooting occurred.

"He was helping the Border Patrol and got shot for it," Tuffly said. "They help us out a lot when they can, but that's not part of his job description, interdicting smugglers down by the port of entry. But if we need backup, they'll help us out. It's real unfortunate."

The park ranger, a commissioned law enforcement officer, was armed and wearing body armor at the time, Thompson said.

He said the weapon that killed the ranger was a rifle. The ranger was one of four Park Service rangers assigned to the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.

In Washington, the National Park Service released a statement: "We regret to inform that an NPS law enforcement ranger was shot and killed in the line of duty this afternoon while pursuing two armed suspects along the U.S.-Mexican border. We will provide further details when they become available."

11 posted on 08/10/2002 7:42:02 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: thegreatbeast
What was it that was being smuggled? It might have been drugs.

Might have been drugs? Mexico is the number one (by far) source of almost every kind of illegal drug into the US. More immigrants from Mexico are here working for the drug cartels to distribute their products throughout the US than are here to pick lettuce.

12 posted on 08/10/2002 7:57:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: InvisibleChurch
There's a war going on down there, these men and women should be wearing bullet proof vests. I feel bad for his family, this should be clear evidence we need the military on the border, but I'm not holding my breath. It's those warm, historical ties dontcha know.
13 posted on 08/10/2002 7:59:22 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ravinson
Reminds me of an old Townes Van Zandt song:

Or many of the very popular narco-corridas you hear in every Mexican neighborhood here in the US. Killing of US law enforcement agents is glorified in their songs and by their most popular Norteno groups.

14 posted on 08/10/2002 8:00:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: InvisibleChurch
From Tuscon AZ Daily Star:
15 posted on 08/10/2002 8:05:05 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: Tancredo Fan
Oops, repeated.
16 posted on 08/10/2002 8:06:20 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: Tancredo Fan
C'mon, you have to be realistic about this the way Bush and his administration are.

What was the damage here?

He lost maybe one potential vote, versus all of the illegal and legal immigrant votes he gained.

What's the big deal?

He'll have Bill Clinton come over and show him how to shed a few phoney tears like he did at Ron Brown's funeral and this guy's whole surviving family will still vote for him.

Make no mistake about it. Our borders will stay wide open. Help is on the way.

>sarcasm<
17 posted on 08/10/2002 8:08:53 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Free the USA; Fish out of Water; Helix; backhoe; Uncle Bill; Patriotman; Dogs in the field; ...
ping
18 posted on 08/10/2002 8:11:22 AM PDT by madfly
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To: InvisibleChurch
La cucaracha, la cucaracha
Ya no puede caminar
Porque le falta, porque le falta
Marihuana que fumar.

Leni

19 posted on 08/10/2002 8:12:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Terridan
Fox ought to be held accountable for this ACT OF WAR!!!!

That's quite an overreaction. If you kill a British cop while trying to smuggle guns or drugs into Northern Ireland, I would hope that Britain wouldn't declare war on the US.

20 posted on 08/10/2002 8:13:36 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: InvisibleChurch
Sounds like a set-up by the federales.
21 posted on 08/10/2002 8:13:42 AM PDT by TN Republican
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To: Ajnin; Marine Inspector; Squantos; hollywood
ping.
22 posted on 08/10/2002 8:14:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: ravinson
...Or so the story goes.
23 posted on 08/10/2002 8:14:24 AM PDT by TN Republican
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To: MinuteGal
Cha, cha, cha.
24 posted on 08/10/2002 8:14:36 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: TN Republican
I meant,
...Out of kindness, I suppose.
25 posted on 08/10/2002 8:15:14 AM PDT by TN Republican
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To: InvisibleChurch
My wife thinks I'm crazy but I say shoot a few hundred or thousand as they cross the border and there would be a dramatic decline in the number attempting to cross.

Chasing, capturing amd sending them back is the greatest waste of time and money that our already wasteful government spends.

26 posted on 08/10/2002 8:20:55 AM PDT by slimer
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To: InvisibleChurch
Bush as done **NOTHING** about the situation on the border. It grows worse each month and he's too busy talking about his bogus free-trade legislation rather than securing our borders.

I blame him for this rangers death. Long ago he could have sealed the border, like we have done for Kuwait, South Korea, etc., yet he does nothing.

27 posted on 08/10/2002 8:23:47 AM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: InvisibleChurch
This FR Thread was posted last evening about this incident.
28 posted on 08/10/2002 8:24:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: gaffin
What really sucks is that the property owners down on the border face criminal prosecution for defending themselves against smugglers and Mexican military incursions. What's the deal with that?
29 posted on 08/10/2002 8:25:31 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Tancredo Fan
We need a double wall, with electrified razor wire on top. I'm tired of people saying we can't enforce our borders. That is the chief responsibility of the federal government.
30 posted on 08/10/2002 8:27:53 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Kobyashi1942
We'll see what the Bush administration's apathy for our security gets us in 32 days on the anniversary of 9/11.

Only 32 more days.

31 posted on 08/10/2002 8:29:52 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Kobyashi1942
Bush as done **NOTHING** about the situation on the border.

Actually, the opposite is true...he has done something--he has encouraged the passage of 245(i) Amnesty for Illegals. Since it failed earlier, he will re-encourage it shortly after the election. After all, he promised Vincente that he'd do it--and he meets with Vincente in a few days. He's gotta play nice to Vincente; Mexico needs all those millions of dollars illegals are sending back to Mexico; and we get to care for their medical needs, and educational needs, and social service needs.
32 posted on 08/10/2002 8:31:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kobyashi1942
Bush will probably say: "People of goodwill from our country and Mexico will apprehend the person or individuals responsible."
33 posted on 08/10/2002 8:31:52 AM PDT by Kerensky
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To: Dog Gone
Yeah well, maybe you just haven't been aware of the "military" doing the shooting, from the Mexican side!
34 posted on 08/10/2002 8:32:16 AM PDT by Terridan
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To: flamefront
bump
35 posted on 08/10/2002 8:32:36 AM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: gaffin
An act of war is committed against the US

B.S. This was not an act of war. Public schools have really deteriorated lately.

36 posted on 08/10/2002 8:41:47 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower
Well the key here is that the "cactus pipe park" is almost 100% enclosed on the Barry Goldwater USAF (DOD) Bombing range we used to clear of UXO all the time. I have personally walked that entire range during my EOD career many a time in Ajo special land !.

This illegal invading trash has used that bombing range as a conduit to the north for decades. When we found em we held em or maintained contact with em till the range security weenies responded.

Many a time I had to order troops "not" to daisy chain our prisoners togeather with a det cord ring main.......and many a time I had to be ordered not to do the same when I was just a wingnut :o)

< Sarcasm > It's a damn good thing the FiBi's & BatFags were watching that AZ rancher capturing and holding illegals versus looking for illegal invaders themselves.......this could have been a FiBi/BatFag killed instead of "just" a Park Ranger.......< / sarcasm >

Stay Safe !

37 posted on 08/10/2002 8:46:18 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
What really sucks is that the property owners down on the border face criminal prosecution for defending themselves against smugglers and Mexican military incursions. What's the deal with that?

Oh that? It's from the Robert Mugabe (sp?) School of Government.

38 posted on 08/10/2002 8:47:44 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: thegreatbeast
I am sure the President will announce his regrets and anger ... like when the five Americans were killed at that Israeli university.

< end sarcasm >

g in Arizona

39 posted on 08/10/2002 8:48:37 AM PDT by Geezerette
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To: Squantos
So much of this illegal immigration is about drug running. Why are we spending billions of dollars for a drug war and then keeping the borders wide open to the drug cartels? If we need a few lettuce pickers, we could have a guest worker program that allows those certain few in after careful background checks but the border should be sealed. Otherwise just call off the drug war ---it's like we want to lose it.
40 posted on 08/10/2002 8:51:01 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: MinuteGal
LOL! I knew my high school Spanish and living here in Arizona would help me surmount the language barrier here!

g

41 posted on 08/10/2002 8:53:27 AM PDT by Geezerette
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To: Demidog; gaffin; Terridan; slimer
An act of war is committed against the US

B.S. This was not an act of war. Public schools have really deteriorated lately.

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

That's close enough to war for my tastes.

42 posted on 08/10/2002 8:53:33 AM PDT by archy
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To: InvisibleChurch
Fight Crime - Shoot First!
43 posted on 08/10/2002 8:58:07 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: ravinson
Damn Rav, you do have a redeeming quality. You just recognized one of the best and most under-rated songwriters of our time until his fairly recent demise.

I salute you....if only momentarily...

44 posted on 08/10/2002 8:59:53 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: MinuteGal
La cucaracha, la cucaracha
Ya no puede caminar

That's Pancho Villa's old marching song.

Here's something a little more recent, Traición y Contrabando...

Salieron de San Ysidro procedentes de Tijuana
traían las llantas del carro repletas de hierba mala
eran Emilio Varela y Camelia la Tejana.

Pasaron por San Clemente los paró la inmigración
les pidió sus documentos, les dijo - de dónde son?;
ella era de San Antonio, una hembra de corazón.
Una hembra así quiere un hombre, por el puede dar la vida
pero hay que tener cuidado si esa hembra se siente herida
la traición y el contrabando son cosas incompartidas.

A Los Angeles llegaron, a Hollywood se pasaron
en un callejón obscuro las cuatro llantas cambiaron
ahí entregaron la hierba y ahí también les pagaron.
Emilio dice a Camelia, hoy te das por despedida
con la parte que te toca, tú puedes rehacer tu vida
yo me voy pa’ San Francisco, con la dueña de mi vida.

Sonaron siete balazos, Camelia a Emilio mataba
la policía sólo halló una pistola tirada
del dinero y de Camelia, nunca más se supo nada.

45 posted on 08/10/2002 9:01:29 AM PDT by archy
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To: Tancredo Fan; madfly; Travis McGee
I contacted the Lukeville Port this morning. I know the Ranger that was killed. This is a horrible tradgity.
46 posted on 08/10/2002 9:08:19 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: archy
That's close enough to war for my tastes.

Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with this incident.

47 posted on 08/10/2002 9:10:59 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Geezerette
LOL! I knew my high school Spanish and living here in Arizona would help me surmount the language barrier here!

That likely works better on the Arizona border than the Cubano flavoured Espanol I picked up while living with my dad when he worked at the CalTex/Texaco refinery in Santa Clara does around Texas. Sometimes a word, phrase or pronounciation draws some funny looks, and sometimes, outright laughture.

No gunshots or stabbings, so far...

48 posted on 08/10/2002 9:13:34 AM PDT by archy
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To: Squantos
If the fedgov stood aside, we could seal the border air tight at no cost in one month.

Just put out a call for volunteers to guard our southern border, "bring your own rifle and camping gear".

I would not want to stroll past Billy Ray Beauchamp from Lousiana's .22-250. Or "Skeets" Southerby from Montana's 300 winmag. Etc.

Just a dream.

49 posted on 08/10/2002 9:13:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Marine Inspector
That's sucks. Too bad payback is not permitted. See my last post.
50 posted on 08/10/2002 9:14:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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