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I think it's about time the Creationists stop ignoring all the empirical evidence that has been collected over the years and realize there is something to this science thing. God's hand is mighty, and who's to say that he didn't use evolution, the Big-bang, etc. to bring about the world as we know it. It's just as arrogant of the Creationists to presume to know how God did it as it is of atheistic scientists to say He didn't do it.

I think Creation and Science go hand-in-hand. Why do I believe that? Look at all the "accidents" that had to happen to get us where we are. There had to be a hand guiding all of that. I believe God knows the order of how things had to be done for Earth to support all of the life on this planet.

There was book written a few years back (and if anyone can refresh my memory on the title and author, please do); the author was an MIT professor and Christian. He wrote this book by sitting down with scientific journals and the Bible to prove how both are right. For example, how the Pleiestocene Period was day 3(or maybe it was 5). He used the theory of relativity to show how Methusala could've lived to be 900, etc.

It needs to be pointed out that even though the Bible is the divinely-inspired word of God, one still must put it in it's proper historical context. The authors of the day knew who their "demographic" was and had to put it in proper perspective for it to be accepted and in terms early readers could understand. Those same folks would not be able to read an issue of "Scientific American" or "Popular Science" the way we do today because they simply didn't possess the understanding we now have.

Actually I'm not arguing against science here. The post that provoked my rejoinder was something like "Christianity has been useless for 2000 years" or whatever. Well, atheism slaughtered 180 million people in the past eighty years alone. Yep, eighty years. The best estimates of the number dead in Christendom over the last two millennia, in both offensive and defensive wars, is 4.5 million persons.

Atheism kills. That's my point. As far as crevo/evo, I'll leave that to the scientists (I'm a fan of Dembski's ID, but the jury's still out).

I think it's about time the Creationists stop ignoring all the empirical evidence that has been collected over the years and realize there is something to this science thing.

Evolutionists keep repeating the above garbage endlessly, yet when I ask them for an example of a single Nobel Prize winning advance which is favorable to evolution they grow silent. When I say that all scientific advances in the last 150 years have tended to disprove evolution, they cannot find anything to refute it. When I state that Darwin has been disproven by science numerous times, they cannot refute it either.

Seems to me that it is evolutionists which are out of step with science, not the other way around.

Re your number 16 queery about the MIT Prof., you may be refering to Dr. Gerald L. Schroeder, author of "Genesis and The Big Bang" (around 1990) and "The Science of God", (around 1998) and in 2002 published "The Hidden Face of God". Last I heard he was Prof. at a Jerusalem University. He gave me a better understanding of God's universe we have the awesome honor of residing in for this short time.

Jim