Posted on 08/11/2002 4:01:50 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
The Palestinian Vision Of Darkness Avi Davis 09 August 2002 Email this story Print this story
It should have been no surprise to anyone that among the victims in Sunday´s bus bombing in the Galilee were Arabs. The Galilee´s population is 52% Arab and it is inevitable that any attack on a bus in that region would have an impact on that population. So too the destruction in Hebrew University´s cafeteria last Wednesday. A university that proudly boasts a population 15% Arab should statistically have expected to find Arabs among the dead. It certainly shouldn´t have surprised most Israelis, who can now finally appreciate the true nature of the terrorist campaign they are facing: any Israeli institution, including the ones that service or care for Arabs, is a potential target. This would seem to include hospitals, day care centers, fire stations and welfare organizations. It goes a long way to answering the question posed by Alistair Goldrein, a British student studying at the Hebrew University when he asked: "Why would someone target this University - it is what was best about Israel."
Why, indeed. The good intentions of liberal institutions or service organizations are largely irrelevant to the master planners of Palestinian terrorism. For them the secular education offered by the Israelis is a trap, designed to goad Arabs from their culture and shatter Palestinian unity. So, too, are the hospitals where world class physicians often sweat to save Arab lives. So are the Israeli human rights groups who actively lobby for their interests and protection. All of these well-intentioned people are regarded as indistinguishable from other Zionists "occupying" Palestinian land – a land categorically defined by Hamas as stretching from the Mediterranean to the Jordan.
The spiral of self deception into which the Palestinians are rapidly spinning has, as its practical source, the acceptance by the international media and European governments that Palestinian terrorists are freedom fighters no different in nature than the French resistance during the Second World War. But a poorer analogy could not be imagined. The French resistance, which eventually unified communists, socialists and nationalists under the banner of the Forces Francaises de l´interiuer, not only had as its goals the liberation of German-occupied French territory, but the restoration of a French democratic republic and the reinstitution of French law. Furious debate was entered into by members of the resistance on the nature of that renewed French republic, giving rise to the ideological rifts that characterize French society to this day. But the important point is that debate ensued and the unifying theme of that debate was that only a vigorous democracy could save France from a descent into renewed authoritarianism or even civil war.
The Palestinians have no such mechanism vouchsafing the progress and prosperity of their inchoate state. There is no visible debate on the nature of such a state (although there is considerable tension between the religious and secular in that society); there are no intellectuals nor statesmen who feel free to talk openly about the challenges of democracy; there is no room for moderates, whose voices are silenced in the popular call for jihad. No, the Palestinian state-in-the-making speaks only in the language of hatred. Today, the target is Israel, but with the increasingly apparent failure to achieve any concrete political objective, the rancor and hatred unleashed by their venomous campaign is likely to turn inward. The most probable outcome is therefore not victory, but civil war.
Yet, an even graver malady afflicts the Palestinian people. Their cause has been hi-jacked, not by a resistance front, but by revolutionaries. Hamas, which has stepped into the vacuum left by Yasser Arafat´s corrupt Palestinian Authority does not merely seek to eject what it perceives as foreign occupation of its land, it seeks no less than the total transformation of Palestinian society. Its militant Islamist message resonates as prescriptive change reminiscent of many other historical revolutionary movements - conceived in high ideals, reverting to violence and ending in butchery.
Therefore, those looking for historical analogies should not waste time examining France of the 1940s. They should recall France of the 1790s when another revolution, conceived with noble aspirations reverted to carnage and destroyed itself in a frenzy of blood letting. That cynical Frenchman Albert Camus, once commented that "every revolutionary ends either as an oppressor or as a heretic." He might have also added that most die at the hands of their own people. The leaders of the Palestinian Revolution, wading knee deep in blood and accustomed only to the language of hate, should now be put on notice that history is unlikely to make an exception for any of them. Born in blood, they will likely die in blood.
No one should be surprised when this revolution begins to devour its own children. ---------------------------------- Avi Davis is the senior fellow of the Freeman Center for Strategic Studies in Los Angeles and senior editorial columnist for Jewsweek.com.
Well by your definition then, Sharon is a palistinian and Yasser is just an Egyptian...welp, matter solved, time for Yasser to leave.
To be sure, Arafat is indeed an Egyptian. The so-called "Palestinians" is nothing more than a political creation, the same way the so-called "African-Americans" are.
Palestinians are Jordanians. African-Americans are Americans.
End of story.
2. Some of the tribes are Semetic. Some Semetic tribes are Jewish, some Arab.
Some of the non-tribes were Christian, again, squat to do with the Arabs from surrounding areas calling themselves a new name for political purposes..
3. Also a lot of Bedoin and Druze and Christians and Zoroastrians, etc, etc.
Fluff and stuff. Bedowin call themselves Bedoin, Druze call themselves Druze and Christians call themselves Christians, and Islamic Arabs from Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia, Checknia and Afganistan call themselves "Palestinians" even if they have never been there.
4. How stupid of you it is to expect all different, non-Jewish peoples residing in the Palistine to consider themselves "a people!"
And how brilliant of you to suck right up to the Palestine Liberation Organisation party line, created AFTER the 1948 invasion. If a "People" do not align by race, birth, religion, or geographical location but only by the Political aims of a terrorist organisation I kinda view them as a political terrorist movement, not a people. Doh...
5. "Palistinian" is therefore describing a person's geographic, not nationalistic, origin.
Even if they have never been there right? Like Arafat himself, born and raised in Egypt, was originated in Palestine? Don't forget that Egypt was never Part of "Palestine" but always has been just egypt.
6. Zionism is a nationalist political movement. Any political aspect of "palistinianism" is a reaction to Zionism.
Therefore "Palestinianism" is a political movement and not a people. You just circular-logic argued yourself right around to arguing my position. Always put a liberal on a short leash or they will end up biting their own butt as they chase their tail.
7. Atzlan is a separatist political movement of Hispanic people. "Californians" are people that live in California. "Zionism" describes the political like Atzlan, "Palistinian" is geographical like Californian. If the UN told Californians to give Atzlan (perhaps as Reparations for the Indian Holocaust), one's status as Californian would not supervene on thier reaction. Because only some Californians are Atzlanists or anti-Atzlanists.
However Americans would just tell the UN to go stuff itself, as the Israeli's are when the UN demands that Israel give the land that was captured from Jordan to the Arabs who live in Israel.
What part of Palestinian is a political movement not a people do you not understand? A people have a language, culture, a history. The "Palestinians" speak Arabic, are Arabic, and their history is Islam, which is from Arabia where they invaded from. Uh, perhaps they are ARABS! (woah dude! A concept! pass the doobie...)
Of course you may consider it Hitleresque, but I said go, not be exterminated because they are a race that I don't like. First off they are not a race, they are invaders that are continuing to claim the divine right to exterminate all the Jews because they are "pigs and dogs". So here we have the Arab invaders yelling Genocide to the high heavens on prime time, while making war within Israel and you accuse me of being a Hitler for stating the obvious, they must go.
Perhaps you thought they would go if I just asked them? Or perhaps you thought if I use the smallest of weapons to kill them in a war, somehow I am less a killer?
They are going to die one way or the other. In case you have not noticed they are strapping bombs on their own children. In the states we would just execute them for murder, in the Middle East you want to make it a political expression and make them Heros.
Excuse me, but when your wife is taking the bus and you wait by the phone with the TV on to see if she makes it, YOU might have a more realistic viewpoint on life.
We might as well fight to defend ourselves and our lives instead of just sit on our hands and wait for them to kill themselves and us. Perhaps, doh, perhaps if they get their asses handed to them in a basket with a military battle the survivors might wise up. Or we can just sit around and sing kumbya till they come for us.
Perhaps you think to avoid even the thought of being hitleresque the Jews should just march into the sea and drown themselves so the Palestinians can go kill themselves in airplanes in America?
No wait, Hitler commited suicide didn't he... How very Hitleresque of me.
Hmm, your answer to 14 specific points against Islam is that everybody does it so it is ok? The Jews didn't, so why are you backing a 1400 year record of slaughter against a 2000 year record of peace?
Then you identify against conservatives by saying they are selective in their approach to a problem, whereas you are, uh, non-selective? You are rabidly pro terrorist, when logic, fact or action by the Terrorists will not deter you from defending them against their victims. You are an interesting critter indeed. Somewhat like a black widow spider.
In your dreams, I have read neocons stuff, and it is pretty well thought out. I, like most here figured he was to busy to poke a stick at the curio of the day. You might consider that if someone is giving you a silly answer, it may because they are trying to talk on your level. -grin-
1400 years of violent conquest and the systematic destruction of neighboring cultures is not a sterotype, it is a pattern. Your bringing in other cultures destruction in wars that are not the only pattern but isolated parts of a whole, just to excuse the bloody history of Islam, whos entire culture is conquest is very transparent.
Yes Spain wiped out the remnants of the Myan culture, (which had self-estinguished mostly by the time they got there), primarily because a culture that is into human sacrifice does not make good bed partners. The primary reason that the remains of the Indian cultures were wiped out by the incoming europeans is not because the Indians culture was a good trading partner or a rival civilization, but because the part about cutting your enemies heart out and eating it while he was alive for spiritual strength was not compatable with European culture.
In fact, most of the cultures that have been wiped out in mans history are the "burn your first born child to please god" types. This is a history lesson the "chop the heads off of the infidels that will not convert", or "torture your captives and allah will ease your concience" Islamics should pay attention to. Looking at man's past history, and predicting the future from it shows that Islam is headed for utter destruction.
By the way, the philistenes, of which the Palestinians are now naming themselves after, were wiped out completely thousands of years ago. They worshiped Molech, a religion that required heating a bronze statue of their god to incandesence and then throwing their first born child in its waiting arms for a sacrifice. Strangly like the Palestinians practice of strapping explosives on their own children for a firey sacrifice to the political god of Palestine.
Well at least at this point in the thread you at least have come to my viewpoint that someone has to go. You can't seem to choose yet between sending the Arabs back to Arabia or the Jews back to... Uh, where can they go?
I got an idea, lets take the group that is making war and declare war on them and the group that is trying to play police and arm them to do it.
One side is advocating genocide, and ethnic cleansing, and claiming land that is not their own, and the other side is being blown up in pizza parlors in their home turf, and arresting proven murderers. Oh, the choices, the choices... How can you be expected to understand the differences right?
"heiroglyphics" are carved in rock oh wise one, and very difficult to burn... You are getting more and more incoherent. Lay off of the bong a bit ok?
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