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A Little-Noticed Pro-Life Victory
Townhall.com | August 13, 2002 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 08/13/2002 6:55:30 AM PDT by Boxsford

Marvin Olasky August 13, 2002

A little-noticed pro-life victory

Professor Hadley Arkes a dozen years ago made a terrific proposal to revive the faltering pro-life movement -- and his efforts finally paid off last week, although hardly anyone noticed.

In 1990, when many pro-lifers were still hoping for the home run -- a constitutional amendment to ban abortion -- the Amherst political philosopher proposed bunting for a single: Have Congress go on record as supporting the right to life of any child who is born alive following an "ineffective" abortion.

That's what now has happened, and the Austin American-Statesman was typical in giving the result one paragraph in a roundup of the Aug. 5 news: "Bush Signs Fetus Status Law. President Bush signed a bill that declares a fetus that survives an abortion procedure a person under federal law."

That description would be laughable were it were not so sad. Sometimes it's hard to avoid talking back to a newspaper: "The creature protected by that newly signed Born Alive Infants Protection Act could not possibly be a fetus. The abortion procedure has expelled him from the womb. He is born. He's a person. What else could he be?"

But some judges in recent years did not grasp that elementary fact, and some doctors and nurses sadly left born-alive survivors of abortion to die in cold steel pans.

Ironically, the reluctance to come to grips with reality made passage of the Born Alive Act possible: Democrats agreed not to oppose the bill, and Republicans agreed not to give speeches about it. Democrats did not want to alienate their virulent pro-abortion backers when a high-profile discussion of just-born life turned to an examination of the same life several minutes earlier, but they also did not want to go on the record for infanticide.

For a time, it seemed that President Bush might sign the bill into law without comment. He came through on Aug. 5, though, saying, "Today, through sonograms and other technology, we can see clearly that unborn children are members of the human family. ... They reflect our image and are created in God's own image. The Born Alive Infants Protection Act is a step toward the day when every child is welcomed in life and protected in law. It is a step toward the day when the promises of the Declaration of Independence will apply to everyone, not just those with the voice and power to defend their rights."

The president also thanked by name individuals who had made the act possible, including Arkes, who never gave up on the idea. I remember Hadley speaking at meetings of pro-life leaders, displaying his Jewish intellectual style amid a coalition of somber evangelicals and Catholics. With a mischievous glint in his eyes, he would pepper his talks with humorous, Damon Runyonesque remarks, and then arch his eyebrows like Groucho Marx.

The lines that could have come from "Guys and Dolls" kept Arkes' arguments from becoming arcane. The force of his logic was hard to dispute. He spoke then and has continued speaking about the "animating principle" behind what Congress (even if through a silent scream) has enshrined in law: "The child marked for an abortion is recognized now as an entity that comes within the protection of the law."

The next legislative step, of course, is for Congress to extend protection from the fully born to the three-fourths-born by passing a partial-birth abortion bill that will withstand judicial challenge. That should happen soon, and President Bush will sign it into law. Steps to help young women make better-informed choices between life and abortion also are needed. The president referred to the power of sonograms, and the administration and Congress should work together to help pregnancy centers purchase the equipment that will allow more women to see pictures of the babies they are carrying.

So Arkes' content and style have led to one victory and paved the way for bigger efforts. Unsurprisingly, none of the nation's news pages (judging by a Lexis-Nexis check) mentioned him the day after President Bush signed his bill into law, and most were like Austin's newspaper in almost entirely ignoring the development. But future historians should notice, and some abortion survivors certainly will.

Marvin Olasky is Editor of WORLD magazine, a TownHall.com member group.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; arkes; baipa; barbaraboxer; bornalive; boxer

1 posted on 08/13/2002 6:55:31 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; MHGinTN
A nice small victory.
2 posted on 08/13/2002 6:58:26 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Dales
Not so small to the baby that now lives.

Also, since the baby who survives an abortion, is now considered a living person, anyone can use any amount of force necessary to protect that baby. Still think it is such a small thing?

3 posted on 08/13/2002 7:03:41 AM PDT by aha?
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To: Boxsford
Piece by piece.

Bit by bit.
4 posted on 08/13/2002 7:05:06 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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To: Dales
"...we can see clearly that unborn children are members of the human family..."

I'm not a huge Bush fan (he is NOT ultra-right-wing, although I did vote for him, and worked on his campaign), but his pro-life stance and RKBA stance (through Ashcroft) are magnificent to behold.
Now if only he'd get tougher with the Demoncrats...

5 posted on 08/13/2002 7:08:17 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: aha?
Not so small to the baby that now lives.
Very true. I stand corrected!
6 posted on 08/13/2002 7:14:57 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Boxsford
It seems to be up to pro-lifers to publicize any and every victory, however small. This letter appeared yesterday in the pro-abort Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Infant Protection Act a big deal

I am appalled that the only mention The Atlanta Journal-Constitution makes of President Bush signing the historic Born-Alive Infant Protection Act is the last paragraph of an unrelated article ("Bush to hold forum on missing children," News, Aug. 6).

Whether the AJC or its readers agree with Bush's decision, the event is monumental. A group of "beings" receiving federal rerecognition of their humanity is not trivial. It is akin to the recognition of African-Americans having equal human rights.

Please do not decide what you want the people of Georgia to be aware of based on your opinion.

MARGARITA SZECHENYI, Marietta


7 posted on 08/13/2002 7:22:19 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Dales
thank you.
8 posted on 08/13/2002 7:22:24 AM PDT by aha?
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To: Boxsford
It's news reports like this that keep me coming back to FR. The general news media's failure to report such good news once again reveals that they are despicably evil.
9 posted on 08/13/2002 8:06:28 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Boxsford; Dales; aha?
Personally, I'm glad that this didn't get too much coverage; it kept loonies like Barbara Boxer from spouting nonsense like the following:

[When the Senate considered the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act on October 20, 1999, perhaps the most revealing part of the debate was the exchange that is reproduced below, between the chief sponsor of the bill, Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), and the leading opponent, Senator Barbara Boxer (D-Ca.). This discussion appears on pages S12878-80 of the October 20 Congressional Record. We have corrected minor errors in transcription and punctuation based on review of a videotape of the C-SPAN broadcast.]

Senator Santorum: I think the issue of where we draw the line constitutionally is very important. And I’m sure the Senator from California [Senator Boxer] agrees with me. I think the senator from California would say that she and I, and the senator from Illinois and the senators from Arkansas and Kansas here, we are all protected by the Constitution with a right to life. Would you agree with that, senator from California -- [would you] answer that question?

Senator Boxer: I support the Roe versus Wade decision.

Santorum: So you would agree any child that’s born has the right to life, is protected under the Constitution? Once that child is born?

Boxer: I agree with the Roe v. Wade decision. And what you are doing goes against it and will harm the women of this country. And I will speak to that issue when I get the floor myself.

Santorum: But I would like to ask you a question. You agree, once that child is born, is separated from the mother, that that child is protected by the Constitution and cannot be killed? Do you agree with that?

Boxer: I would make this statement: That this Constitution, as it currently is -- some of you want to amend it to say that life begins at conception. I think when you bring your baby home, when your baby is born -- and there is no such thing as partial-birth -- the baby belongs to your family and has all the rights. But I am not willing to amend the Constitution to say that a fetus is a person, which I know you would.

But we will get into that later. I would prefer to address --I know my colleague is engaging me in a colloquy on his time, and I appreciate it -- I will answer these questions.

I think what my friend is doing, by asking me these questions, is off point. My friend wants to tell the doctors in this country what to do. My friend from Pennsylvania says they are "rogue" doctors. The AMA will tell you they no longer support you. The American nurses don't support you. The obstetricians and gynecologists don't support you. So my friend can ask me my philosophy all day. On my own time I will talk about it.

Santorum: If I can reclaim my time: First of all, the AMA still believes this is bad medicine. They do not support the criminal penalties provisions in this bill, but they still believe -- I think you know that to be the case -- that this procedure is not medically necessary, and they stand by that statement.

I ask the senator from California, again: you believe, you said "once the baby comes home." Obviously, you don't mean they have to take the baby out of the hospital for it to be protected by the Constitution. Once the baby is separated from the mother, you would agree -- completely separated from the mother -- you would agree that baby is entitled to constitutional protection?

Boxer: I will tell you why I don't want to engage in this. You did the same conversation with a colleague of mine, and I never saw such a twisting of his remarks. [Editor’s note: See Nov. 14, 1996 NRL News, page 24, for transcript of an exchange between Santorum and Senator Russ Feingold (D-Wi.).]

Santorum: Well, be clear, then. Let's be clear.

Boxer: I am going to be very clear when I get the floor. What you are trying to do is take away the rights of women and their families and their doctors to have a procedure. And now you are trying to turn the question into, "When does life begin?" I will talk about that on my own time.

Santorum: What I am trying to do is get an answer from the senator from California as to where you would draw the line? Because that really is the important part of this debate.

Boxer: I will repeat. I will repeat, since the senator has asked me a question – I am answering the question I have been posed by the senator. And the answer to the question is, I stand by Roe v. Wade. I stand by it. I hope we have a chance to vote on it. It is very clear, Roe v. Wade. That is what I stand by. My friend doesn't.

Santorum: Are you suggesting Roe v. Wade covered the issue of a baby in the process of being born?

Boxer: I am saying what Roe v. Wade says is, that in the early stages of a pregnancy, a woman has the right to choose. In the later stages, the states have the right, yes, to come in and restrict. I support those restrictions, as long as two things happen: They respect the life of the mother and the health of the mother.

Santorum: I understand that.

Boxer: That is where I stand. And no matter how you try to twist it, that is where I stand.

Santorum: I would say to the senator from California, I am not twisting anything. I am simply asking a very straightforward question. There is no hidden question here. The question is --

Boxer: I will answer it again.

Santorum: Once the baby is born, is completely separated from the mother, you will support that that baby has, in fact, the right to life and cannot be killed? You accept that; right?

Boxer: I don't believe in killing any human being. That is absolutely correct. Nor do you, I am sure.

Santorum: So you would accept the fact that once the baby is separated from the mother, that baby cannot be killed?

Boxer: I support the right -- and I will repeat this, again, because I saw you ask the same question to another senator –

Santorum: All the person has to do is give me a straight answer, and then it will be very clear to everybody.

Boxer: And what defines "separation"? Define "separation." You answer that question. You define it.

Santorum: Well, let's define that. Okay, let's say the baby is completely separated. In other words, no part of the baby is inside of the mother.

Boxer: You mean the baby has been birthed and is now in its mother's arms? That baby is a human being.

Santorum: Well, I don’t know if it’s necessarily in its mother’s arms. Let’s say in the obstetrician's hands.

Boxer: It takes a second, it takes a minute – I had two babies, and within seconds of their birth --

Santorum: We’ve had six.

Boxer: Well, you didn't have any.

Santorum: My wife and I had babies together. That’s the way we do things in our family.

Boxer: Your wife gave birth. I gave birth. I can tell you, I know when the baby was born.

Santorum: Good! All I am asking you is, once the baby leaves the mother's birth canal and is through the vaginal orifice and is in the hands of the obstetrician, you would agree that you cannot abort, kill the baby?

Boxer: I would say when the baby is born, the baby is born, and would then have every right of every other human being living in this country. And I don't know why this would even be a question, to be honest with you.

Santorum: Because we are talking about a situation here where the baby is almost born. So I ask the question of the senator from California, if the baby was born except for the baby's foot, if the baby's foot was inside the mother but the rest of the baby was outside, could that baby be killed?

Boxer: The baby is born when the baby is born. That is the answer to the question.

Santorum: I am asking for you to define for me what that is.

Boxer: I don’t think anybody but the senator from Pennsylvania has a question with it. I have never been troubled by this question. You give birth to a baby. The baby is there, and it is born. That is my answer to the question.

Santorum: What we are talking about here with partial birth, as the senator from California knows, is a baby is in the process of being born --

Boxer: "The process of being born." This is why this conversation makes no sense, because to me it is obvious when a baby is born. To you it isn't obvious.

Santorum: Maybe you can make it obvious to me. So what you are suggesting is if the baby's foot is still inside of the mother, that baby can then still be killed.

Boxer: No, I am not suggesting that in any way!

Santorum: I am asking.

Boxer: I am absolutely not suggesting that. You asked me a question, in essence, when the baby is born.

Santorum: I am asking you again. Can you answer that?

Boxer: I will answer the question when the baby is born. The baby is born when the baby is outside the mother's body. The baby is born.

Santorum: I am not going to put words in your mouth –

Boxer: I hope not.

Santorum: But, again, what you are suggesting is if the baby's toe is inside the mother, you can, in fact, kill that baby.

Boxer: Absolutely not.

Santorum: OK. So if the baby's toe is in, you can't kill the baby. How about if the baby's foot is in?

Boxer: You are the one who is making these statements.

Santorum: We are trying to draw a line here.

Boxer: I am not answering these questions! I am not answering these questions.

10 posted on 08/13/2002 8:41:54 AM PDT by geaux
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To: geaux
Simply incredible!!!! What a dialogue. Boxer must be sub-human or something. Just reading that made my blood pressure go up. Just amazing how she could not flat out answer a simple question about a born baby. It should surprise us that anything gets accomlished (good or bad) at all in Washington.
11 posted on 08/13/2002 8:50:07 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: aha?; Dales
I, too, felt it was a 'small' victory but aha? you make an excellent point and any life that is saved is a huge victory. It is people with that kind of hope and perspective that keep the likes of me on track. Thanks!
12 posted on 08/13/2002 8:54:38 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Boxsford
Quite a few years ago, Planned Parenthood came out with their position on when a baby becomes a person with rights. They gave three requirements:

1. The baby must be born.
2. The baby must be healthy.
3. The baby must be wanted by his or her mother.

I couldn't make this stuff up.

13 posted on 08/13/2002 9:00:40 AM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
Gee, that is disgusting isn't it? It would take a truly evil person to come up with that list.
14 posted on 08/13/2002 9:50:04 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Boxsford
Excellent.

Now, how long will it be before Planned Parenthood or some other like minded organization comes to the "defense" of the mother by challenging this law?

Of course, since this got so little fanfare, maybe it'll go unnoticed, even by the most rabid abortionists.
15 posted on 08/13/2002 9:54:55 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: Boxsford
Nice to hear about this. Thank you for posting it.
16 posted on 08/13/2002 10:11:15 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: Boxsford
It would take a truly evil person to come up with that list.

That's the nature of PP. There's nothing benign or good about them. Pure evil.

17 posted on 08/13/2002 10:31:16 AM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Boxsford
SINator Boxer and several other Senators will have their campaign funds cut into if the tissue sources of late-term aborted children are stopped. Is it any wonder she obfuscates and tries to defend with inane rhetoric and dumbact verbage the 'presumed' right of women to hire serial killers to off the unborn, the partially born, and the just born? Boxer is a demonic servant of an evil which is mightily corroding this Republic.
18 posted on 08/13/2002 10:32:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Boxsford
BTTT
19 posted on 08/13/2002 10:34:48 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Steve0113; geaux; Boxsford
Boxer: The baby is born when the baby is born. That is the answer to the question.
The articles and discussions on FR have truly helped me on the abortion issue. I have seen and learned more than I really had ever wanted; thank Heaven. These quotes & political discussions will immediately be saved in my files. Thank you for doing this research and posting it here. You do an important service for us all.
20 posted on 08/13/2002 10:42:53 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: Dales
A nice small victory.

Thank heavens Bush is president. Does anyone have any idea if Gore would have vetoed the bill, if he had been president?

By George Will, NEWSWEEK
George Will: A Question For Gore Next Week

Does a Woman Having an Abortion Have a Right to a Dead Baby, Even if it is Born Alive? :
Newsweek - October 2, 2000 edition
MSNBC.com

21 posted on 08/13/2002 11:09:06 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: syriacus
The bill would not have made it out of committee if Gore was president.
22 posted on 08/13/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Outlaw76
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To: Dales; CounterCounterCulture; Saundra Duffy
Pro-Life BUMP!
23 posted on 08/13/2002 11:52:59 AM PDT by Cool Guy
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To: Libertina
The articles and discussions on FR have truly helped me on the abortion issue.

Glad to be of service.

I have seen and learned more than I really had ever wanted.

I sometimes wish I didn't know so much about it. It tends to make one feel very old. I see why God wanted men to stay away from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

24 posted on 08/13/2002 12:17:50 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Boxsford; Dales
Thanks for the post and the ping!

"The creature protected by that newly signed Born Alive Infants Protection Act could not possibly be a fetus. The abortion procedure has expelled him from the womb. He is born. He's a person. What else could he be?"

Indeed, what else could he be? :-)

25 posted on 08/13/2002 2:21:06 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Libertina
No problem. I read an article when I was about 11 years old discussing both sides of the abortion issue (in Seventeen magazine, no less). I remember thinking pro-life was the only logical issue. No matter what angle I looked at it, the pro-choice side just didn't make any sense. The older I get, and the more I learn about what goes on in many abortion clinics, the more pro-life I become. Not just because it's the correct moral response, but because the abortion workers often lie or misrepresent information to the women, the women are not fully informed; they are not making a truly informed decision. Therefore, pro-choice does not really mean "pro-choice." If these people were really pro-choice, they would be advocating giving as much information as possible to women; instead, they do everything they can to hide details of the "procedure" as much as possible.
26 posted on 08/13/2002 3:01:35 PM PDT by geaux
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To: syriacus
Ohmygosh, do you smell that stench of hypocrisy?
It would be alright to kill the infant as long as the abortionist had been paid and it was done in a sterile atmosphere (and oftentimes it is not), but when a teenager does it herself in the bathtub then it's murder.
Thanks so much for posting that link to the article. I sure would love to know how Gore would have answered that question. I think I know already.
27 posted on 08/13/2002 3:31:39 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: geaux
If these people were really pro-choice, they would be advocating giving as much information as possible to women; instead, they do everything they can to hide details of the "procedure" as much as possible.

You're absolutely right.

Pro-aborts are no longer doing the killing in dark "back alleys," but they still want to hide what they are really doing. They don't like pictures of the abortion procedures to be shown. They aren't even able to present a case for their goal of "abortion on demand" without resorting to twisted logic.

They say there is a certain age (or stage of life) someone must reach in order to be a person, but they don't want to provide the details that define that constantly shifting age.

They sure do like to keep things murky.

28 posted on 08/13/2002 3:58:46 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: Boxsford
Thank you for posting this article. I didn't know the signing took place until I read about it here. I hadn't read about Arkes before, either.
29 posted on 08/13/2002 4:07:38 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: syriacus
Your welcome!
30 posted on 08/13/2002 6:03:17 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Cool Guy
Pro-Life volley BUMP!
31 posted on 08/13/2002 6:44:02 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Boxsford
The next legislative step, of course, is for Congress to extend protection from the fully born to the three-fourths-born by passing a partial-birth abortion bill that will withstand judicial challenge. That should happen soon, and President Bush will sign it into law. Steps to help young women make better-informed choices between life and abortion also are needed. The president referred to the power of sonograms, and the administration and Congress should work together to help pregnancy centers purchase the equipment that will allow more women to see pictures of the babies they are carrying.

The gun grabbers have restricted our gun rights using incremental means. While I think abortion is a serious evil and mortal sin, I understand the political reality that we're not going to be able to ban abortion outright.

After we ban partial-birth abortion, I think that we should push for informed consent. Many women who have abortions really don't think that they are carrying a baby, especially in the first trimester when they aren't even showing. Informed consent should include the following:

* Viewing of the ultrasound
* Warning that abortion may cause breast cancer and potential mental health problems
* Scientific facts on the development of human life (when the heart starts beating, when the "fetus" feels pain, etc).
*A detailed explanation of the abortion procedure and possible physical side-effects, including death, infertility, etc.

Considering that the human heart starts beating 25 days after conception, I can't imagine that any but the most cold-hearted woman could kill their child when they see that heart beat. I had an early ultra-sound on my first pregnancy because the doctor couldn't hear the heart-beat, and when I saw at 10 weeks a little tiny minature baby, with arms and legs, but more powerful was the beating heart. My husband and I just started crying. It was an incredible experience.

Finally, we need to do more to offer women assistance who find themselves pregnant and feel they can't afford the baby. I know of several organizations who help poor, pregnant women who choose life, with baby items, food and clothing, and finding a job after the baby is born, or help with adoption. Some also help mend fences with families. While out-of-wedlock births are not ideal, we can't condemn these women because they made one mistake. They more than made up for the mistake by making the right decision to allow their baby to live.

Anyway, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I think it's important to repeat.

32 posted on 08/19/2002 9:08:45 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
I think you make some really good points in your post. Some pro-lifers see this issue as an 'all or nothing' deal and I agree with your view. Incrementally, we can make a difference. I believe its a heart issue too.
33 posted on 08/20/2002 1:16:02 PM PDT by Boxsford
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