How Liberals Win The Talk Show Wars

http://www.toogoodreports.com ^ | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 | Allan C. Stover

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

PASS IT ALONG

[Paul Atreides]

If anyone has seen the show, or read the transcript, of Ann Coulter's appearance on the new Philth Dohahue, notice that he wanted to blather about her PREVIOUS book. Also, he would ask her a question, and in the middle of her answer, he would interrupt with another question on a totally different subject. He is a very sloppy host, not to mention a moron.

[IronJack]

Excellent summary, and a great article, AP. Every one of these techniques is practiced regularly by the Left and their fawning knob-polishers in the media. Read Ann Coulter, Bernard Goldberg, or the master of them all, David Horowitz for additional analyses of Leftist propaganda techniques. They're textbook case studies.

Oh, and there WILL be a test, come November.

[Vidalia]

Oh yeah, but now we come to the meat and peas of the matter, and it looks like a pea green BLEEEAACHHH running down the faces of the liberal liars once again...

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Oh, and there WILL be a test, come November

Im a member of FREEREPUBLIC i aint sceered of no steeeenking test

[lds23]

My favorite debate tricks I see liberals using include:

Taking an anecdote and blowing it up with hyperbole, which takes at least two forms. The first is saying something like "How would you like if such-and-such exaggerated example happened to you". The other form is to exaggerate it as a hateful premise, such as "What, do you want to take all the immigrants and put them in jail?"

Another technique is basically the opposite tactic. They try to pin down a hairsplitting example, such as "So you're saying there no cases ever filed in California that bilingual education helps a disabled child?". Alternatively, they give a hairsplitting example where something went wrong as an example of why the baby has to be thrown out with the bathwater.

[ladyinred]

Excellent article and sadly so true. Although even I am one of those Americans who wish we could have a more civil tone in DC, I know that is not possible. Therefore, the only thing to do imo is to fight back with just as much vengeance as the RATS do. The media and the rats call Pubbies mean spirited anyway, so what is there to lose, except an election?

[Torie]

Liberals are not winning the talk show wars. On some talks shows, particularly on radio, there aren't many liberals on, among other things. Moreover few liberals listen to political talk shows. It is mostly conservatives listening, and more and more talking to each other.

[ladyinred]

Also heard Ann on Hannity with Lannie Davis. He said she was a hateful namecalling bore over and over and over, and wouldn't talk about issues! It never occured to him that he was doing the very thing he accused her of.

[goodieD]

BUMP for the truth!

[Selara]

Other things they do is talk real LOUD and real fast. They interrupt frequently and when asked a direct question, launch into another scripted tirade.

At least at Fox News, I have seen their mics cut three times in the last year. Sean did it just recently. The guy would NOT shut up and never answered a single question.

[RLK]

Ive been considering the subject for some time.

Phil Donahue is probably the best talk show debater on TV today and for 20 years since Mr. Passionate Sensitivity's life became dedicated to defending the stupid loudmouthed slut he left his wife and kids to end up taking up with.

I've asked myself if I could debate Donahue. The answer is, I couldn't. He bellows like a mule and there is no way to get a word in. He talks about his feelings. I can't refute his feelings. The suggestible American public reacts to Donahues hysteria by becoming hysterical themselves.

In short, Donahue's technique is to have a psychotic episode in front of TV cameras. There is no way of dealing with a psychotic rationally. The American public has been raised on nearly 40 years of being presented with psychotics on TV as entertainment and social commentary/activism, going back to the Abbie Hoffman Bill Kunsler days of the 60s, and recent generations have internalized the mode of thinking.

[harpo11]

Liberals go for the subjective personal attack method of debate. I heard David Horowitz with Sean Hannity this afternoon trying to debate some guy from the Nation Mag ( I think that is what the mag was ) and within 3 minutes the leftist was snarling and blithering about how crazy David was for his views while delivering nothing about the issue being discussed.

[Paul Atreides]

Liberals are so arrogant they don't even realize when they are making total fools of themselves.

[lds23]

Oh, yeah, three more things:

They attack the opposition for what they themselves are doing. The best example is a James Carville calling Republicans mean-spirited.

The second is the flawed premise. This takes two forms: the false choice (i.e., between defense spending and health care), and the setting up of two irrelevant choices (e.g.,whether houses should be painted blue or green, when the real question is why the government should be deciding what the color of houses is in the first place).

The third, of course is the wordsmithing, such as when they say "Compassion" they really mean "pity".

[Rome2000]

If only the GOP reps on these shows would call their opponents LIBERALS, LEFTISTS, and UNPATRIOTIC SOCIALISTS.

I guess that would be too effective.

[Rome2000]

"TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL" seems to shut them up pretty good but I don't hear that coming from the pathetic creatures the GOP puts on TV to debate these perverted socialist crooks.

[piasa]

I've never actually seen a lib win a talk show debate. Their main objective isn't to debate or to win, but mainly, to keep their opponent from getting to say anything while maximizing the amount of time they are given. Logic is not a requirement for this tactic, which is why liberals use it.

The first thing libs like to do is to get the first shot. They get to spend the first minutes of any talk show spewing their filth uninterrupted by the polite conservatives and the polite host. this means they get one clear opportunity to get out their message. Once that is done, their next problem is to silence their opponent during his turn.

This is done by joking with the host, interrupting, or if the opponent won't shut up when interrupted, by shouting over the opponent so that nothing he or she says can be heard, and by interjecting comments in the hope of inducing a change in subject.

You see, the libs know there is never a need to win an argument if the liberal side is the only side heard.

[Jorge]

Good article.

[dalereed]

The solution to social programs is what I have advocated for over 40 years, its something like voluntary slavery.

You have 3 choices in life and can change your mind which one of the 3 you want to follow at any time.

#1 Bust your ass and make something of yourself.
#2 Indenture yourself to a #1 for your basic necessities.
#3 Lay down in the street and die.