Mumps and the MMR vaccine

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[bonesmccoy]

With people like krodriguez on this board, one wonders why government permits the term ''doctor."

Regardless of how many physicians actually raise clinical issues, immunology, microbiology, and papers; the D.C. appears to rely on outdated postulates which have no basis in known anatomy, immunology, or clinical care.

The fact that this condemnation has been so unanimous demonstrates the clearly incorrect nature of krodrignezdc's comments.

Health information is held to a different standard than other advice in most states.

Physicians continue to lead the nation's response to the war on terrorism on the homefront.

[krodriguesdc]

epitope...

[krodriguesdc]

whole = all antigens

acellular = inactivated by hydrogen peroxide...

[TomB]

OK, so you don't know the difference, fair enough.

What about Hib? How did it virtually disappear in the 90s?

[Jim Noble]

This is a flat earth discussion.

This is an "HIV doesn't cause AIDS, and the drugs kill people" discussion.

You guys are doing great, but let's go save lives, huh?

[TomB]

Thanks Jim, but I'm just a lowly dentist. About the only time I save lives is when I diagnose oral cancer. However, I do spend a lot of time urging parents to get their kids vaccinated.

Nonetheless, I understand your concern, but take a moment sometime and look at all the anti-vax websites there are, many run by chiropractors. There is a lot of disinformation out there and this forum is a great place to combat it. The posts I make are not so much directed AT our misinformed friend here as much as at people who might be inclined to take him seriously.

I was hoping he would eventually wander into the "vaccines aren't effective" argument, because that does a great job of invalidating his entire stance. There is NO DOUBT among everyone except the most deluded that vaccines have been wildly effective, and saying they aren't is very fringe thinking.

[discostu]

But vaccines dilute our precious bodily fluid and corrupt our purity of essence, that's why I drink only pure grain alchohol and rain water...

I haven't seen that movie in too long, guess I know what I'm doing tonight.

[TomB]

30% Voodoo.

That must be one of the more "progressive" schools.

[krodriguesdc]

30% Voodoo

beg your pardon...

[TomB]

As far a polio goes, these are the numbers for Canada:

Note how the largest epidemic in recent history happened in 1952-53, which, btw, was a worldwide epidemic. Note how the disease virtually disappears when the vaccines is introduced?

[bonesmccoy]

"JIM! This thread is DEAD!"

LOL

[krodriguesdc]

Dammit Jim I'm a doctor - trust me...

I'm sorry I coudn't resist :)

[bonesmccoy]

Posting that photo with your anti-vaccine rhetoric is laughable. The fact of the matter is that the ACIP was dominated by Clinton appointees... who incidently are also the same failed bureaucrats who have FAILED to deliver on almost EVERY mandated vaccine and FAILED to deliver on smallpox anti-bioterrorism vaccines!

How appropriate that you worship lunkheads!

I'll keep posting photos of REAL HEROES.

"Take the words of their nominee... don't inhale!"-- RONALD MAXIMUS REAGANUS!

[Bon mots]

I don't know what the studies say, but I got mumps for a second time after being given the MMR vaccine in college in the 80's AND after having had them as a young child. Go figure.

I figured that I would be immune since I had mumps as a baby and I had to get an MMR booster again in college due to the fact that I had no Rubella antibodies in a blood test. I went to a state university which REQUIRED this. I only needed a Rubella vaccine, but it was just simpler to go to a GP and get an MMR shot. So I figured I was as immune as could be after my previous infection and then inoculation. WRONG!!

I moved to Europe and my son got mumps. Not long after, I got them too...AGAIN. And after being immunized. Crazy, but true. Damn near killed me. I didn't get orchitis, but it did go to my liver and kidneys. I didn't know that they could give you so much pain.

Now I should be REALLY immune. Yep. You won't see me going near any more kids with mumps though...

[Bon mots]

I don't know what the studies say, but I got mumps for a second time after being given the MMR vaccine in college in the 80's.

I figured that I would be immune since I had mumps as a baby and I had to get an MMR booster again in college due to the fact that I had no Rubella antibodies in a blood test. I only needed a Rubella vaccine, but it was just simpler to go to a GP and get an MMR shot. So I figured I was as immune as could be. WRONG!!

I moved to Europe and my son got mumps. Not long after, I got them too...AGAIN. And after being immunized. Crazy, but true. Damn near killed me. I didn't get orchitis, but it did go to my liver and kidneys. I didn't know that they could give you so much pain.

Now I should be REALLY immune. Yep. You won't see me going near any more kids with mumps.

[Kozak]

Look at the list I presented. While the ORGANISM may not have been eradicated, the clinical INCIDENCE of DISEASE in vaccinated populations is essentially zero.

[krodriguesdc]

Mr. Reagan was a true American who believed that govt. is too big and should not mandated the people...