Big Brothers hit for backing gay mentors

New York Daily News ^ | 8/16/02 | AP

[kattracks]

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America has told its 490 local affiliates to give openly gay and lesbian volunteers an equal chance to serve as one-on-one mentors to children, incurring the wrath of several conservative groups.

The 98-year-old organization - devoted to helping children from single-parent homes - says it is undaunted by the criticism, which includes calls for its corporate backers to halt donations.

"We're getting incredible, positive support for the action we took," the organization's president, Judy Vredenburgh, said yesterday.

Big Brothers Big Sisters has endorsed nondiscrimination principles for 25 years that cover sexual orientation, race, religion and ethnicity.

Only last month, however, did the provision about sexual orientation become mandatory policy for all affiliates, a few of which had been rejecting gays.

Parents will still have the option of rejecting mentors for various reasons, including sexual orientation. Still, the move has provoked outrage from several conservative organizations.

Donald Wildmon, chairman of the Tupelo, Miss.-based American Family Association, contends that Big Brothers Big Sisters "will become a magnet for homosexuals who exploit opportunities to engage young, impressionable children with their unhealthy lifestyle."

There has been no indication corporate backers will shy away from Big Brothers Big Sisters. Larry Plumb, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, said his company has a long track record in support of nondiscrimination.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America has told its 490 local affiliates to give openly gay and lesbian volunteers an equal chance to serve as one-on-one mentors to children...

Oh, this is really going to appeal to parents. Will this mentoring occur in motel rooms?

[CIBvet]

I wonder how these corporations like Verizon could be held responsible when the first criminal sexual abuse by a Sodomite volunteer hits?

[WaterDragon]

I've contributed to the BB/BS program for years. But not now. This really makes me question their concern for and ability to be mentoring children.

[Ann Archy]

Haven't they learned ANYTHING from the Catholic Church scandals???? IDIOTS! It's like putting a fox in th hen house....why can't they SEE that??

[CIBvet]

Will the Sheraton or Motel 6 offer special 'mentoring rates'?

[Las Vegas Dave]

I worked with this woman who was a "Big Sister", and behind her back were whispers of her sexual preference, (BTW: not men for you DU lurkers)!

I always wondered how anyone would let her spend time alone with his or her daughter.

[CIBvet]

We are reaping a Wild-fire Whirl-wind, out of control, from the '60's Sexual Revolution'.

[DonQ]

Oh, this is really going to appeal to parents.

Big Brothers serves mostly kids who don't have a father in the house. This is usually because the father has pulled a vanishing act. IF the hetero men who fathered these children would fullfil their responsibilities there wouldn't be this desperation to get gay men to substitute for them!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Getting a happy and gay man to substitute as a father is one thing. Getting a homosexual man to substitute is another. I was angry with my father. I had a big brother. But my mom, and a lot of other moms, would not turn to the Big Brothers with this sick taint on it. This is not about helping kids. This is about cramming homosexuality down everyone's throat. I'm all for homosexuals being equal citizens. But a parent has the right to free exercize of religion. This is against my religion. And just as I would not want my kid exposed to the drug scene, I would not want my kid exposed to homosexuals.

[VA Advogado]

Its corporate sponsors:

ARAMARK
Arby's Foundation
Do It Best
Footaction USA
Harlequin Enterprises Unlimited
Jack in the Box
Microsoft
NFL
Pillsbury
UPS
Valvoline
Verizon
Warner Brothers Studios

I think you know what to do :)

http://www.bbbsa.org/partners/corporate.html

[DWSUWF]

Years ago an associate of mine applied to volunteer as a Big Brother.

He gave me as a reference and BB sent me a very detailed questionnaire to complete, which I gladly did.

BB was clearly going to great lengths to AVOID exposing their young clients to homos at that point in history.

That, sadly, appears to have changed.

[uncbob]

"We're getting incredible, positive support for the action we took," the organization's president, Judy Vredenburgh, said yesterday.

FRom who
Homosexual headed groups

[Greeklawyer]

Liberal mothers will gladly not care about their sons and daughters about this issue. These are the same women who do not allow their childrent to play with toy guns. The would gladly sacrafic YOUR child to their cause.

This is another elitist attempt to normalize the homosexual fetish.

[EdReform]

"Parents will still have the option of rejecting mentors for various reasons, including sexual orientation."

And when they do, they'll be harassed and called a homophobe. What will BB/BS do to protect parents from being harassed when they decide to reject a homosexual "mentor"?

Does BB/BS have a blank on its application form to indicate "sexual orientation"? If so, how do they verify this information? What happens if an applicant claims they are straight, and then later decides to "come out" as a homosexual? What about the "bisexuals" and "transgenders"? Do the "bisexuals" get to mentor a boy or a girl? Or one of each? And what about the S&M's (sadomasochists)? S&M's have their place in the homosexual community so they certainly couldn't discriminate against them.

Homosexuals are not appropriate mentors for children!

[Guillermo]

Is this culture really worth saving?

[EdReform]

Bump

[I still care]

Why? Do you think you will hear about it? Do you remember when the boy scout leader was accused of molesting young boys, and all the mainstream media could talk about was that he worked in a church?

Remember Jesse Dirkhausing. There is a different standard for homosexual molestation.

[MarineDad]

There has been no indication corporate backers will shy away from Big Brothers Big Sisters. Larry Plumb, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, said his company has a long track record in support of nondiscrimination.

Simply spiffy. Pretty soon they'll be able to add some new entries to their list of supported causes, but none of them are fit to print. Think I'm gonna hurl...

[Hacksaw]

Hey, why not? After all, it worked in the Catholic Church. (that was sarcasm, son)

It seems the lessons from the Church scandals are lost on the majority of society. And yet, the Boy Scouts are perpetually attacked by the fags and their defenders, like the ACLU.

[Hacksaw]

I've contributed to the BB/BS program for years. But not now. This really makes me question their concern for and ability to be mentoring children.

I need to buy that book that Cal Thomas wrote - I believe he basically said that American institutions have become so corrupted that they can not be changed, and we are better off forming parallel institutions rather than wasting our time.

[Sabertooth]

It's like putting a fox in th hen house....why can't they SEE that??

They are foxes themselves.

[ArGee]

If the parents get a resume of the volunteers and the "sexual orientation" of the volunteer is clearly listed, then BB/BS might not get sued when a volunteer molests a child.

If you have a son, don't do BB/BS, sign your son up with Boy Scouts. If you have a daughter, I don't know what to advise you, except to remember this one (of 8) simple rules for dating my daughter. It's from a book I saw recently in a bookstore, but I can't remember the author.

You may have heard that if you have sex without a barrier it can be dangerous and could even kill you. Let me be more clear. When it comes to sex, I am the barrier and I will kill you.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

This is against my religion. And just as I would not want my kid exposed to the drug scene, I would not want my kid exposed to homosexuals.

It's also not safe for the kid as homosexuals are many more times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

Is this culture really worth saving?

As it is today? Probably not. As it was 100 years ago? Definately. In the middle somewhere? Pick your year and we'll discuss it.

Shalom.

[Guillermo]

I believe we've had this discussion once before....

[Greeklawyer]

"I need to buy that book that Cal Thomas wrote - I believe he basically said that American institutions have become so corrupted that they can not be changed, and we are better off forming parallel institutions rather than wasting our time."

How about a list:

What are the alternatives to the Girl Scouts or to Big Brothers and Big Sisters for example?

[EdReform]

Bump

[Gritty]

Lemme get this straight...

It's BAD for the Catholic Church to expose children homosexual (scratch that: insert "pedophile") Priests, but GOOD to expose children to homosexual (scratch that: insert "openly gay and lesbian") volunteers?

As that famous American Icon, politician and current jailbird would say, "Beam me up, Scotty!!"

[Travis McGee]

Because they think gay-ness is wonderful, and a heterosexual society is oppressive to gays. They want as many chances for homos to get to young boys as possible to seduce them into the homo death-style. I'm serious. They know what they are doing.

[yendu bwam]

But my mom, and a lot of other moms, would not turn to the Big Brothers with this sick taint on it. This is not about helping kids. This is about cramming homosexuality down everyone's throat. I'm all for homosexuals being equal citizens. But a parent has the right to free exercize of religion. This is against my religion. And just as I would not want my kid exposed to the drug scene, I would not want my kid exposed to homosexuals.

I agree. When they start coming after children, it's time to fight. It's the same with homosexual scoutmasters in the Boy Scouts. That's way, way over the line for me (and my children).

[yendu bwam]

Why? Do you think you will hear about it? Do you remember when the boy scout leader was accused of molesting young boys, and all the mainstream media could talk about was that he worked in a church?

I do, and they couldn't even call him homosexual (despite that fact that he molested several teenage boys). Geesh! The homosexual Catholic molester priests all work in Church too. That says a lot to the teenage boys raped by these perverted men.

[Chess]

"And what about the S&M's (sadomasochists)? S&M's have their place in the homosexual community so they certainly couldn't discriminate against them. "

Sadomasochists also have their place in the hetero community. Should they be banned?

How do you propose the organization screen for them?

[yendu bwam]

Because they think gay-ness is wonderful, and a heterosexual society is oppressive to gays. They want as many chances for homos to get to young boys as possible to seduce them into the homo death-style. I'm serious. They know what they are doing.

The same in the Boy Scouts and the public schools. They've already found their young boys in the Catholic Church, and the result has been horrific.

[yendu bwam]

What are the alternatives to the Girl Scouts or to Big Brothers and Big Sisters for example?

Try checking out American Heritage Girls. It's a new scouting movement for girls, with the traditional values and morals and beliefs Girls Scouts originally inclucated, but later scorned. AHG is vastly, vastly superior to Girl Scouts.

[yendu bwam]

It's also not safe for the kid as homosexuals are many more times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals.

Which is exactly what the Catholic homosexual molestation scandal shows.

[Travis McGee]

Beyond belief. The homos claim that they are not pederasts, but secretly they cheer on the homo pederast "chicken hawks" for seducing more mixed up boys into their homo death style.

[yendu bwam]

Beyond belief. The homos claim that they are not pederasts, but secretly they cheer on the homo pederast "chicken hawks" for seducing more mixed up boys into their homo death style.

Only stupid stupid parents would turn their teenage boys over to homosexual scoutmasters, priests or mentors. More and more are learning that, tragically.

[GrandMoM]

bttt........I'm back!

[ArGee]

Sadomasochists also have their place in the hetero community. Should they be banned?

Sound's reasonable. You could ask on the application form if the person is into several fetishes that suggest a mental problem. You could also ask about fetishes that do not suggest a mental problem. Then screen out those that volunteer the information or refuse to answer.

Why ask for trouble for other people's children?

Shalom.

[EdReform]

Welcome Back Bump!! We've missed you!

(I was away all weekend myself)

[templar]

I'm all for homosexuals being equal citizens.

Homosexuals are equal citizens. Always have been.