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Lizzie facing L.I. lockup. Now Lizzie Grubman really has something to cry about.
DAILY NEWS ^ | 8/18/02 | BRIAN HARMON and TRACY CONNOR

Posted on 08/18/2002 6:09:18 PM PDT by LarryLied

The public relations executive plans to plead guilty Friday and serve her time at a special lockup for drunken drivers, sources familiar with the case told the Daily News.

Grubman, 31, has agreed to spend a minimum of two months at the dormitory-style DWI Alternative Facility in Yaphank, L.I., the sources said.

As part of the deal, she will have to perform community service after she's sprung from the minimum-security program.

Grubman's lawyers met for 40 minutes Friday with the special prosecutor and the new judge, Michael Mullen, to hammer out the plea deal.

Not final yet

But sources cautioned it's possible the deal could fall through or be changed if lawyers involved in the civil case against Grubman strongly object.

The Yaphank facility is a last chance for hard-core DWI felons, and drunken-driving groups could raise a fuss if first-time offender Grubman gets in.

Defense lawyer Stephen Scaring and prosecutors declined to discuss the plea bargain.

"Her next court appearance is on Friday. Beyond that, I have no comment," said Rick Hinshaw, spokesman for special prosecutor Joy Watson.

Grubman was hit with a 26-count indictment for backing her father's Mercedes-Benz sport-utility vehicle into a crowd of clubgoers after an argument with a bouncer at Southampton's Conscience Point Inn last summer.

She could have faced up to eight years in prison if convicted of all charges, but was angling for a deal with little or no jail time.

Her willingness to enter the DWI facility is a total reversal for Grubman, said a lawyer for one of the 11 crash victims suing Grubman for $181 million.

"It contradicts the position that she's taken all along - that she was not under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time of the incident," said Gary Gash of White Plains, who represents a young woman who broke her pelvis.

"It seems to constitute an admission," Gash said.

Manhattan lawyer Michael Schessinger called the deal "fair" and suggested the exact language of Grubman's plea will influence the outcome of the civil suits.

"If it's a done deal, we're relieved," said Schessinger, whose client, Harlan Goldberg, is suing Grubman for $5 million. "The DA's office and the criminal lawyers were working hard to come up with a just solution."

At one point, Grubman - the daughter of entertainment lawyer Alan Grubman - had agreed to a no-jail deal, but the judge put the kibosh on it.

Later discussions that centered on a 20-day sentence went nowhere.

First apology

Last month, Judge John Mullin prepared to set a trial date, prompting a wailing Grubman to apologize for the first time for the July 2001 mayhem.

"I'm so sorry," she blubbered in front of the television cameras - a poor-me performance that failed to impress the prosecutors or victims.

By last week, after the case had been taken over by Mullen, a Grubman adviser was publicly acknowledging that jail time was inevitable.

"She is going to have to face some very harsh realities," said Manhattan lawyer Ed Hayes.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
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1 posted on 08/18/2002 6:09:18 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Lock her up! I have no patience with DWI's, even first offenders need harsh treatment.
2 posted on 08/18/2002 6:23:25 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
dwi's ? this woman tried to KILL people
unbelievable
3 posted on 08/18/2002 6:31:38 PM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: LarryLied
I remember that right before Sept 11, I was following three stories fairly closely: Lizzie Grubman, Mayor Giordano's child-sex scandal, and the Durban racism conference.

I cannot BELIEVE that this b!tch's case hasn't been settled yet. At this point they should just put her butt on trial in eastern Long Island, and then we'll REALLY see some sobbing when they send her to real jail.

4 posted on 08/18/2002 6:37:16 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: LarryLied
If she's an adult, can they go after the old man's money as well?
5 posted on 08/18/2002 6:39:33 PM PDT by Thebaddog
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To: cactusSharp
dwi's ? this woman tried to KILL people

Sounds like she'll be out of jail faster than her victims got out of the hospital.

6 posted on 08/18/2002 6:39:59 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: LarryLied
She is stupid drunken scum and needs to be in jail for a long time.

YOUR MOTIVE FOR POSTING THIS:
She is Jewish. You never post gossip stuff.

I tell the truth. I know what makes the LarryLieds of this world tick. Deal w/ it dudeski.
7 posted on 08/18/2002 6:41:23 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Age of Reason
and people were complaining Noelle Bush got off easy for an illegal script.
8 posted on 08/18/2002 6:44:25 PM PDT by not-alone
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To: hellinahandcart
FOX News had a segment on this about an hour ago. I caught the last 30 seconds. I think the deal is done.
9 posted on 08/18/2002 6:45:11 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Ditter
She looked like a graduate from the Susan Smith School of Artificial Tears.
10 posted on 08/18/2002 6:45:35 PM PDT by lsee
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To: LarryLied
Lizzy Grubman had a car,

Couldn't Drive it all that far....

Any other verses?

11 posted on 08/18/2002 6:45:48 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: cactusSharp
I am not terribly familiar with this case, but didn't she back into them in a drunken rage? Or did she set out to murder with her SUV?
12 posted on 08/18/2002 6:49:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: dennisw
YOUR MOTIVE FOR POSTING THIS: She is Jewish.

All the New York papers have been carrying stories about this. It's not about being jewish. It's about being drunk, arrogant and driving under the influence. Nobody thought about what her religion was until you mentioned it. And BTW, how do you know she is Jewish?

13 posted on 08/18/2002 6:55:38 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Thebaddog
If she's an adult, can they go after the old man's money as well?

It was her father's car.

14 posted on 08/18/2002 6:56:10 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: Little Bill
Lizzy Grubman had a car,

Couldn't Drive it all that far...

She backed into some folks

While leaving the bar.

15 posted on 08/18/2002 6:56:55 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
Lizzy Grubman had a car, Couldn't Drive it all that far... She backed into some folks While leaving the bar.

Hit some Brothers and and some honkies too...

16 posted on 08/18/2002 7:01:22 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: LarryLied
"I'm so sorry," she blubbered in front of the television cameras - a poor-me performance that failed to impress the prosecutors or victims.

She must be pretty despicable to rate a review like this.

17 posted on 08/18/2002 7:03:17 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: ladyjane
All the New York papers have been carrying stories about this. It's not about being jewish. It's about being drunk, arrogant and driving under the influence. Nobody thought about what her religion was until you mentioned it. And BTW, how do you know she is Jewish?

You are a rank amateur at the LarryLied game of posting bad stuff about Jews

And BTW, how do you know she is Jewish?

Bwaahahhahahhahah .......... Are you serious?

Why don't you ask Lied? He posted it solely because she is Jewish. I promise you this.  Like I said. Lied does not post gossip... until now.

18 posted on 08/18/2002 7:03:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
who represents a young woman who broke her pelvis. If I'm not mistaken, the pelvis was broken for her.
19 posted on 08/18/2002 7:06:14 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: dennisw
How does one know that she is Jewish? I remember this story from last summer - the woman is a spoiled drunk depending upon her daddy's fame and money to get her off charges for which you or I would do serious time.

Where does religion or ethnicity enter in?

20 posted on 08/18/2002 7:08:26 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: dennisw
Mombonn is right, though. If you hadn't mentioned it no one would have thought anything of it except as a news story. And I do kind of doubt the motive for posting this was to smear Jews. Is he going to tie them to diamonds somehow or link her to fixed skating and russian mafia? I just think your overreacting a bit.

< asbestos on!>

21 posted on 08/18/2002 7:11:43 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: LarryLied
Lizzie has something to cry about every time she looks in a mirror.
22 posted on 08/18/2002 7:14:14 PM PDT by RichInOC
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To: ladyjane
This whole story reminds me of 1786...they have no bread, let them eat cake............. These people make me ill.
23 posted on 08/18/2002 7:15:05 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: hellinahandcart
Real jail for her is a great idea. And having the Bi&^h cleaning up the parkways in the Hamptons during the Social Season sounds pretty darn good to me. A nice orange vest (they do have parolees cleaning the interstates in Cali), a trashbag. What a happy thought!
24 posted on 08/18/2002 7:24:50 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: JMJ333
a lawyer for one of the 11 crash victims suing Grubman for $181 million.

Some people have all the luck.

With me, it's illegals with no insurance. I gotta start hanging around a higher class of reckless people.

25 posted on 08/18/2002 7:26:09 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: ladyjane
Gee, isn't feminism great..here we have Tom Wolfe's book "Bonfire of the Vanities" being played out on the live stage with a gender change for the main character!

It's better live than it was in his book.
26 posted on 08/18/2002 7:31:54 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: Ditter
Lizzie was wicked pissed because the bouncer wouldn't kiss her ass. DWI was way down her list that night. Try ultr-agressive driving.
27 posted on 08/18/2002 7:36:13 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: LarryLied
But sources cautioned it's possible the deal could fall through or be changed if lawyers involved in the civil case against Grubman strongly object.

Yes this may be bad news to her civil defense lawyers.

28 posted on 08/18/2002 7:36:19 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: LarryLied

90 days in summer camp is not enough for this bitch.
29 posted on 08/18/2002 7:53:21 PM PDT by finnman69
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To: JMJ333; mombonn
How does one know that she is Jewish? I remember this story from last summer - the woman is a spoiled drunk depending upon her daddy's fame and money to get her off charges for which you or I would do serious time.

Where does religion or ethnicity enter in?

I promise you upon the grave of my grandfather that LarryLied posted this only because she is Jewish. Grubman needs to go to prison but I really think you are both naive as far as the LarryLied game here. Larry is not neutral on Jews and this is the only reason he posted this gossip item.

How come I see the story behind the story and you don't? How come I know his motivations and you don't?

30 posted on 08/18/2002 7:56:44 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
What was her blood alcohol level? Were there drugs in her system and what were they? Oh right, she's one of the elite. Put her in with the general population like the rest of us would have to face.

31 posted on 08/18/2002 8:00:45 PM PDT by Lx
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To: mombonn
How does one know that she is Jewish?

How come LarryLied and I know she is Jewish and you don't? How come LarryLied and I know that this is the only reason why he posted this thread? Remember  ...... LL does not post gossip articles......Until now and a Jew is involved.

32 posted on 08/18/2002 8:01:03 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Has her Hollyweird lawyer father called up all those liberal politicians he's long donated so much to in order to get a "Committee To Free Lizzie Grubman" formed yet?
33 posted on 08/18/2002 8:01:28 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: dennisw
I was just pointing out that her religion would more than likely have gone unmentioned if you hadn't of brought it up. That is why I thought it was an overreaction because if no one took it as a smear, then the point of using it as one is mute. Just my 2 cents that no one asked for.
34 posted on 08/18/2002 8:08:43 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Chu Gary
You're right about Bonfire of the Vanities. Lots of coverage of this story in the papers. But I don't think anybody (up until now) has seen it as a racist or a religious thing. Just another spoiled brat.
35 posted on 08/18/2002 8:09:41 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: LarryLied
I've seen posted of LarryLied that he posts anything he can defamatory of Jews.

Since the Greater Significance of this article is zilch, I can only conclude that those posters are correct.

So LarryLied, what is the point of this post, besides the fact somewone named Grubman is in the pokey?

36 posted on 08/18/2002 8:12:22 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: dennisw
How come I see the story behind the story and you don't? How come I know his motivations and you don't?

I have no idea. I see this as a story about a selfish, drunken rich kid. Nothing more, nothing less.

Maybe you are looking for "the story behind the story".

I wouldn't care if the last name of the drunken brat was clinton, bush, or grubman. A drunk is a drunk.

37 posted on 08/18/2002 8:14:08 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: Little Bill
Dizzie Lizzie had a car

Couldn't drive it all that far

So she punched it in reverse

Then things went from bad to worse.

38 posted on 08/18/2002 8:14:56 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: JMJ333; dennisw
Ever since an unfortunate "incident" I had in Alaska in 1971, I have been biased against Eskimos or "Aleuts" as some people call them. Unfortunately, there are few news articles detailing the horrible things Eskimos do (and yes, they are horrible). So,in a way, Dennisw is right. I look for articles such as this one. But I don't do it because of Grubman's religion. I do it because I can't find any Eskimos to bash.
39 posted on 08/18/2002 8:15:02 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: HangFire
To: JMJ333

a lawyer for one of the 11 crash victims suing Grubman for $181 million.

Some people have all the luck.

With me, it's illegals with no insurance. I gotta start hanging around a higher class of reckless people.

25 posted on 8/18/02 7:26 PM Pacific by LarryLied

 
:-/

40 posted on 08/18/2002 8:16:20 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: LarryLied
A lot of those Eskimos have gotten off the booze. The tribes decided to stop shipping it in. Things are much, much better. My brother leads birding tours up in the Arctic every June, and that is what he tells me. It used to be wild though.
41 posted on 08/18/2002 8:18:30 PM PDT by Torie
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To: LarryLied
The Aleuts on the Priboloff (sp) Islands never got into the same fix as those on the mainland, who are not Aleuts. That is another piece of info from my brother.
42 posted on 08/18/2002 8:20:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Enterprise
Lizzie Grubman had a car

Road raged many at a bar

When she got caught she went boo-hoo

And now we know she is a Jew

43 posted on 08/18/2002 8:21:59 PM PDT by muleboy
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To: Little Bill
When she saw what she had done

She cried for mercy and got none.

44 posted on 08/18/2002 8:24:16 PM PDT by Bob Quixote
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To: JMJ333
"Is he going to tie them to diamonds somehow or link her to fixed skating and russian mafia? I "

give him time...
45 posted on 08/18/2002 8:25:38 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: LarryLied
But I don't do it because of Grubman's religion. I do it because I can't find any Eskimos to bash.

Go try your lies out on someone else dudeski. You only posted this because Grubman is Jewish.... This is the truth.
46 posted on 08/18/2002 8:40:30 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Plutarch
So LarryLied, what is the point of this post, besides the fact somewone named Grubman is in the pokey?

Like I said, this is the first Larry Lied gossip post I've ever seen. He posted only because Grubman is Jewish. Only the naive cannot see Lied's agenda. He is only concerned with what Jews do wrong. Not anyone else.
His posts show this and I will call him on it.
47 posted on 08/18/2002 8:45:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Does this mean that Jack Grubman is also jewish?

Should Larry refrain from posting anything concerning JG's public tribulations?

Perhaps it is off-limits to speak of someone cheating people out of millions of dollars for fear of reinforcing stereotypes?

48 posted on 08/18/2002 8:46:37 PM PDT by muleboy
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To: Torie
A lot of those Eskimos have gotten off the booze.

The "incident" involved the so-called "houses" they live in. No booze involved. I hear Alaskan HS basketball teams fly to Hawaii for games. That true?

49 posted on 08/18/2002 8:55:16 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Righty1
OK, so you are telling me she wasn't drunk, she was in a rage & didn't care who she ran over. Was she arrested on the scene or did she leave & get arrested later? Thats hit & run. Why no trial?
50 posted on 08/18/2002 8:59:02 PM PDT by Ditter
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