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This Is Opposition? [WSJ Editorial on the NYTimes]
Wall St. Journal ^ | Aug 19, 2002 | Editorial

Posted on 08/19/2002 2:07:45 AM PDT by The Raven

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

We're pleased, we guess, that the New York Times thought our article on Iraq by Brent Scowcroft last Thursday was important enough to lead its front page two days in a row. We'd be more pleased, though, if instead of trumpeting our story to advance a tendentious theme, the Times kept its opinions on its editorial page.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; scowcroft; times
Here's yesterday's NY Times front page story
1 posted on 08/19/2002 2:07:45 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Also, here's the NY Times editorial from the 16th
2 posted on 08/19/2002 2:32:32 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
And more reading.....a related article New York Times misrepresents Kissinger on Iraq in the Wash. Times
3 posted on 08/19/2002 2:57:09 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
And one more......again from the Wash Times....
4 posted on 08/19/2002 3:08:42 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
This is without a doubt the best thing I've read all day. Big ol' bump to the top!
5 posted on 08/19/2002 12:05:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
You're the only one !!
6 posted on 08/19/2002 3:25:12 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
We'll fix that!
7 posted on 08/19/2002 3:40:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
Let me hit this with a big ol' bump too........
8 posted on 08/19/2002 3:44:47 PM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
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To: bert; Peacerose; calypgin; ForGod'sSake
Don't you love it when the NY Times gets slapped around, especially when it's done by a big name such as the Wall Street Journal?
9 posted on 08/19/2002 3:46:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: The Raven
Big Bump!
10 posted on 08/19/2002 3:47:56 PM PDT by Dog
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To: The Raven
BTTT
11 posted on 08/19/2002 3:50:28 PM PDT by facedown
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To: Singapore_Yank; The Raven
Excellent article. I do not expect all Republicans to march along and agree all the same. President Bush will listen to many opinions, but he is the one who gets to decided what to do.
12 posted on 08/19/2002 3:50:34 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Ah, you came. I just realized that I didn't include your name just now when I tried to ping a few people.
13 posted on 08/19/2002 3:51:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
No worries. I'd read the article a while ago, but didn't comment on it. The Times just sees healthy discussion amongst President Bush's advisors as something bad. I see it as a good thing, a lot of times healthy discussion that has an end to it promotes ideas, and building upon others views. OTOH, Clinton and his minions would discuss an idea or policy to death, never come to any sort of decision, and just kind of let stuff happen by default.
14 posted on 08/19/2002 3:54:18 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Singapore_Yank; The Raven
Great post, Raven. SY, thanks for the heads up. Bumping for the evening crowd's comments.
15 posted on 08/19/2002 3:57:43 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: Utah Girl
Well, the main point here seems to be that while there has been a healthy discussion of policy, there's far, far less opposition than what the Times would have us believe. Anytime a little-known Republican congressman wants to make front page news, all he has to do is express opposition to President Bush and he'll be the darling of the week.
16 posted on 08/19/2002 4:06:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
I heard Rush talking about this today. I forget his exact description of the "once great" NY Times - but it was great and not complimentary!
17 posted on 08/19/2002 4:14:17 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; ...
Super Pingeroonie.
18 posted on 08/19/2002 4:49:56 PM PDT by Neets
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To: OneidaM; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; MeeknMing; HiJinx; SAMWolf; JohnHuang2
Thank you for the ping OneidaM.

BUMP!!!!!!

19 posted on 08/19/2002 5:08:05 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: OneidaM
Hi Nita. Thanks for the ping. This high level controversy is becoming more muddled by the day.
20 posted on 08/19/2002 5:14:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: OneidaM; rintense; mtngrl@vrwc; McLynnan; Wphile; twyn1; ladyinred; lawgirl; MJY1288; admiralsn; ...
BUMP!!
21 posted on 08/19/2002 5:20:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
Bump.
22 posted on 08/19/2002 5:23:18 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Hey, SAM, this is decidedly off topic, but we're heading to Ft. Knox tomorrow! Graduation is Wednesday!
Hooah!!
23 posted on 08/19/2002 5:31:13 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: The Raven
I disagree with this sentence: Its current stance shows how little faith an increasingly elitist left now has in promoting democracy and U.S. principles.

It is not a matter of little faith in the agenda of promoting democracy, it is a matter of a different agenda altogether. The is, well, the left, not in favor of US principles, let alone promoting them overseas.

24 posted on 08/19/2002 5:42:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: The Raven; OneidaM
Good reading, thanks.
25 posted on 08/19/2002 5:46:09 PM PDT by lysie
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To: ohioWfan
I do not know if this violates any protocol, but I am curious. Who is graduating from what at Ft Knox?
26 posted on 08/19/2002 5:49:13 PM PDT by Radix
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To: ohioWfan
Thanks for the ping, ohioWfan!!!

Although........far be it from ME to absolutely revel in the pilloring of the NYT!
27 posted on 08/19/2002 5:51:30 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Snow Bunny
Whoo Wee! Thanks for the ping, Snow Bunny !



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Rummy, you tell the Brits to keep sifting the dirt for Osama.
Next up? SADdam ! Let's get him!

28 posted on 08/19/2002 6:03:27 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: All


29 posted on 08/19/2002 6:03:53 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ohioWfan
Way cool - thanks for the bump !!
30 posted on 08/19/2002 6:07:43 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: The Raven
This is an "about time" bump!
31 posted on 08/19/2002 6:17:28 PM PDT by timydnuc
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To: ohioWfan
Thanks for the ping. Only the NY Times would have a problem with the President listening to a wide range of opinion as he makes his decision. I see it as a good thing. It wouldn't matter whether W made his decision in a vacuum or consulted with thousands, the NY Times would express their irrelevant dissatisfaction.
32 posted on 08/19/2002 6:18:10 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Radix
LOL! My son is graduating from Basic Training at Ft. Knox. He's 18, and in the Army Reserves, heading for AIT at Ft. Lee, VA on Friday.

We haven't seen him since the 10th of June.

34 posted on 08/19/2002 6:29:56 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: justshe
Far be it from you, indeed, justshe! Michael Barrone did the same thing on Special Report.......this is just glorious!
35 posted on 08/19/2002 6:32:30 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: McLynnan
The operative word being irrelevant. They are rotting in their own self-important swill.
36 posted on 08/19/2002 6:34:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: The Raven
Great article! It seems the Wall Street Journal is getting sick and tired of the New York Slimes.
37 posted on 08/19/2002 6:35:09 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Singapore_Yank
I wonder when the NY Times's readers will realize they're being fed a pack of lies.
38 posted on 08/19/2002 6:37:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: MeeknMing
Meek,
That is 1 of the coolest posts that I have ever seen here in my short tenure.Thank you!
39 posted on 08/19/2002 7:09:10 PM PDT by Radix
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To: ohioWfan
The NY Times forgets there are a lot of people in flyover country who don't hang on their every word.
40 posted on 08/19/2002 7:20:21 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: The Raven; Singapore_Yank
From the Washington Times article. Apparently the NYT people didn't want to talk about it:

New York Times reporters Todd S. Purdum and Patrick E. Tyler, who wrote the story, and their Washington bureau chief, Jill Abramson, did not respond to inquiries by The Washington Times.

Do tell??????

Don't you love it when the NY Times gets slapped around, especially when it's done by a big name such as the Wall Street Journal?

Has there been a cajone transplant at the WSJ, or are they just fed up with the NYT like the rest of us?

FGS

41 posted on 08/19/2002 11:16:43 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Radix
Thank you, FRiend !
42 posted on 08/20/2002 2:02:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: OneidaM
Thanks, O!
43 posted on 08/20/2002 3:40:56 AM PDT by Argh
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To: OneidaM
The thing I'm really curious to know, is how well the NYTimespravda liked Scowcroft, when he was actually wielding power in a Republican Administration....

But, the old adage is ever true. The fastest way for a Republican to get praise from the Times is to Conflict with a Republican Administration.

McCainus is probably up next....

(Sheesh where are my manners..) How are ya?

44 posted on 08/20/2002 5:46:15 AM PDT by hobbes1
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