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VINCE FOSTER PHOTOS BATTLE LANDS ON TED OLSEN'S DESK
Allan J. Favish Homepage ^ | 8/21/02 | Samizdat

Posted on 08/21/2002 9:54:52 AM PDT by Samizdat

This week, attorney Allan Favish, who has waged a long battle to find the truth about the circumstances surrounding the suspicious death of former Clinton White House Counsel, Vincent W. Foster, was notified that the Office of Independent Counsel, formerly headed by Ken Starr, would ask United States Solicitor General, Ted Olson, to decide whether to ask the Supreme Court to stop release of Foster death scene photos that have been ordered released by a lower court. Ted Olson is husband our own Barbara Olson (freeper BKO) who died on 9/11.

Oddly, Foster's sister and remarried widow have joined the OIC in attempting to block Favish's attempt to learn the truth about the death. They have notified Favish that they will seek a 90 day stay of the case being returned to the trial court so that the Solicitor General can decide on a Supreme Court appeal.

This last ditch effort by the OIC, et al, is as a result of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals having denied them a rehearing of the case.

At issue is the question of whether Foster had neck wound instead of the official version that it was a mouth to back of head wound. It is reported that a photo exists that depicts the neck wound. The OIC has feverishly tried to keep that photo under wraps.

In Barbara's last book, she seemed to back off using the word suicide when referring to Vince Foster's death. Perhaps Ted will look into the matter to find the truth.

For more information, go to Allan Favish's web site at www.allanfavish.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: vincefostermurder
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1 posted on 08/21/2002 9:54:52 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Samizdat
let's destroy the lies that pervade our nation concerning so many scandals and issues.
2 posted on 08/21/2002 10:01:33 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Samizdat
Interesting. We'll see if Ted will go to the wall to protect the last administration. My guess is yes.
3 posted on 08/21/2002 10:01:43 AM PDT by steve50
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To: Samizdat
Clinton Body Count bump!
4 posted on 08/21/2002 10:03:12 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Samizdat; crimefighter4; honway; rubbertramp; Fred Mertz
At issue is the question of whether Foster had neck wound instead of the official version that it was a mouth to back of head wound. It is reported that a photo exists that depicts the neck wound.

perhaps, park police officer kevin forshill can shed some light on the issue. he was one of the 1st to arrive at the death scene. kevin used to FReep from time to time, but don't know if he's around anymore.

5 posted on 08/21/2002 10:06:27 AM PDT by thinden
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To: steve50
Interesting. We'll see if Ted will go to the wall to protect the last administration. My guess is yes.

I am hoping in Barbara's memory, Ted will turn over a few rocks, like I believe Barbara would if it landed in her lap. We'll see.

6 posted on 08/21/2002 10:07:58 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: thinden
Fornshill? I thought he was one of the bad guys. No?
7 posted on 08/21/2002 10:09:12 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Samizdat; aristeides; leadpenny; basil
In Barbara's last book, she seemed to back off using the word suicide when referring to Vince Foster's death. Perhaps Ted will look into the matter to find the truth.

We can always hope for Ted to do the right thing, but I'm very doubtful he will.

8 posted on 08/21/2002 10:10:08 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Doing the right thing would ruin Ted's social life. No?
9 posted on 08/21/2002 10:17:40 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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To: Samizdat
Time to clear the air: I killed Vince Foster. OK, so not really, but I was in the area when it happened. That was weird enough for me. My guess is that this will fall under the category of all the other Klinton krimewave stuuf being swept under the rug by this administration. Gotta be the FBI files or maybe just the quiet "I don't see any benefit to this story" conspiracy that exists in Washintoon.
10 posted on 08/21/2002 10:19:58 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Fred Mertz
Hopefully, sound legal reasoning will prevail and the photos will be released.

11 posted on 08/21/2002 10:23:01 AM PDT by Leper Messiah
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To: thinden
bump
12 posted on 08/21/2002 10:24:09 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: steve50
Oddly, Foster's sister and remarried widow have joined the OIC in attempting to block Favish's attempt to learn the truth about the death

Oddly? I think not. I imagine they just don't want these pictures all over the internet. Enough is enough.

And, no, nobody has a RIGHT to see those pictures, regardless of what the law is concerning them. It's a desecration of the dead's privacy, not to mention the suvivors.

13 posted on 08/21/2002 10:24:22 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Uncle Bill; nunya bidness
bttt
14 posted on 08/21/2002 10:24:58 AM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Samizdat; All
The Lonely Death of Vince Foster-- Case Unclosed?
15 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:12 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: steve50
Mine as well. We know only the tip of the Iceberg when it comes to the depravity, crime, corruption, and even treason of Clinton and his administration. Our elite media and beltway insiders know much of the story. I think a decision was made that if the public knew the extent of Clinton's crimes it would rock the very foundation of the nation and usher in a sea change in national politics that would have destoryed the Beltway elite as well and not just Clinton.

But even if they are released and they show a neck wound the national media will utterly ignore it- it will simply not be reported- like the Knowlton Adendum was simply not reported. Based on facts available it is totally appropriate to question the laughable Star report conclusions on Foster's death- but to do so among the Beltway and the Media is totally taboo. It will be as if they were never released.

16 posted on 08/21/2002 10:30:12 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Samizdat
Barbara Olsen was a FReeper? This is a little off-topic, but she was mentioned in the article.

She was my hero in politics, and in the world in general. I grieve still, when I see her name mentioned anywhere, and the tears still come. I can't imagine how awfully hard it has to have been for Ted Olsen. If Barbara Olsen is your spouse, how would one even imagine that void could be filled? She was the most electric & beautiful person I've ever seen.
17 posted on 08/21/2002 10:33:45 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: Howlin
I disagree, Howlin. It is a matter of a death being recognized as a murder & not a suicide. I think Fosters widow is still afraid of the clintons, after all these years.
18 posted on 08/21/2002 10:36:51 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Republican Babe
"Doing the right thing would ruin Ted's social life. No?"

Integrity is hard to come by, blood is no longer thicker "thicker than water", truth lays dead in the streets and politics reign in place of the Constitution or any of the above.

It surely does not appear to matter which brand of politics is at the helm they are closer than brothers under the skin.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 10:37:24 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: Samizdat
VINCE FOSTER - The Mirage of Suicide and The Reality of Murder

20 posted on 08/21/2002 10:37:50 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: Burkeman1
Mainstream media is about done as a useful source of information. Their only goal seems to be to manipulate opinion, not much unapproved stuff makes the air. Too few read, at least anything other than the same drivel from the same vested interests.
21 posted on 08/21/2002 10:39:33 AM PDT by steve50
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To: Howlin
If it were my loved one I would not want to think they were so miserable as to commit suicide. That is what is odd about it. There is evidence it was a murder. If it were me, I would rather have that, awful as it is, than suicide, and be able to punish the wrongdoer.

If we wanted the pictures just for some sort of perverse curiosity, it would be wrong but we want them because we suspect murder. I think that's reason enough. Sorry to disagree but I think you're wrong on this one.

22 posted on 08/21/2002 10:44:34 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Ditter
The problem with that, IMO, is that there is NOBODY who you all would consider good enough to make the call.

Suppose Ted Olsen says, "I looked at the pictures, consulted with experts, and there is nothing there."

He will be the next one on "the list" of people accused of covering up for the Clintons.

There is just nobody that would satisfy the "he was murdered" crowd. Everybody is suspect.

23 posted on 08/21/2002 10:45:13 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Samizdat
I hope that this case gets the respect it deserves. There are too many conspiracies, too many lies, and too little trust in our government to search for the truth and not cave in to political pressure and corruption. This is a chance to restore some measure of credibility. That journey's first step needs to be taken and it could be taken with the Foster case. Do the investigation and release the data. Let's finally get to the truth.
24 posted on 08/21/2002 10:45:36 AM PDT by GBA
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To: steve50
What finally made totally give up on television news all together and much of the major daily newspapers was Clinton's 98 bombing of Serbia for 78 days.
25 posted on 08/21/2002 10:45:48 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Ditter
"I disagree, Howlin. It is a matter of a death being recognized as a murder & not
a suicide. I think Fosters widow is still afraid of the clintons, after all these
years."

I've thought that from the beginning. I never read a single sentence from her to the effect that she wanted her husband's death to be investigated fully.
26 posted on 08/21/2002 10:47:07 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Samizdat
There is absolutely NO NEED to release these pictures to the public. None.

There are people who make these kinds of decisions; if what they decide doesn't suit you all, that's a problem because, as I said above, nobody will satisfy you all until somebody says "He was murdered."

Sometimes things are what they are.

27 posted on 08/21/2002 10:47:08 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I think to say he was murdered is very premature and reckless. But equally dubious is anyone who agrees with the laughable findings of the Star report concerning Foster's death. At the very least existing evidence sugests the body was moved- a crime in itself.
28 posted on 08/21/2002 10:48:50 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Howlin
There is absolutely NO NEED to release these pictures to the public. None.

Actually, there is no need to keep them secret.

29 posted on 08/21/2002 10:49:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Burkeman1
And what does any of that have to do with releasing the photos of him to anybody other than a proper authority?
30 posted on 08/21/2002 10:49:56 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
There is just nobody that would satisfy the "he was murdered" crowd. Everybody is suspect.

I think they photos need to be viewed by the people who want to view them. And they won't be all over the internet. They can only be viewed in DC where they are. So anyone who wants to travel there should be able to view them.

As soon as somebody explains to me how fingerprints can melt off a gun because of the heat while one unidentified fingerprint remains to my satisfaction, then I will be quiet. Until then, we need to see the photos.

31 posted on 08/21/2002 10:50:24 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: AppyPappy
I have never understood why people think they have a right to see autopsy photos, period.
32 posted on 08/21/2002 10:50:43 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Samizdat
And they won't be all over the internet.

Please don't insult my intelligence.

33 posted on 08/21/2002 10:51:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AppyPappy
You took the Patrick Knowlton walking tour of Fort Marcy Park too IIRC. I went in Jan 2001 with leadpenny and basil and John Clarke and about six other FReepers.
34 posted on 08/21/2002 10:51:26 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Howlin
And, no, nobody has a RIGHT to see those pictures, regardless of what the law is concerning them.

So you don't believe in the rule of law?

35 posted on 08/21/2002 10:53:35 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Howlin
Well- nothing I guess. I am not sure they should be released either. But I am saying that even without these photos enough evidence exists that makes the official Star Report a joke and that his death is far from being adequetley explained. And the fact that these discrepencies in the death of a high ranking government official have not even been examined or refuted by anyone in the maistream media is a commentary on just how "free" our media really is.
36 posted on 08/21/2002 10:55:31 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: kitkat; Ditter
I think the opinion that Mrs. Foster is still afraid of the Clintons is exactly it. No one speaks out against them. What evil do they threaten? Is it a cocktail that's mixed exclusively for each? FBI files, the lives of loved ones threatened, or are they sweetened with a few new cars or bank accounts which stay padded for years?

37 posted on 08/21/2002 10:56:15 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Yes, Barbara K. Olson was Freeper "BKO".

Here is the tribute thread to her when we found out she was on one of the 9-11 planes.

Here is a link to the FReeper memorial page, since so many have passed in the last few years (of course, with 30,000+ active members, and 85,000+ FReeper ID's, this isn't surprising).

Here's the only thread she bookmarked.

I can't find her last post, though.

38 posted on 08/21/2002 10:57:35 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Wm Bach
I believe autopsy photos should be private matters between families and authorities ONLY, period.

And don't try that "rule of law" crap on me; I see enough twisting of the law around here to know not everybody agrees with every single law on the books.

39 posted on 08/21/2002 10:57:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AnnaZ
What??? No Michael Rivero link? ;-)
40 posted on 08/21/2002 10:59:33 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: Fred Mertz
" ou took the Patrick Knowlton walking tour of Fort Marcy Park too IIRC. I went in Jan 2001 with leadpenny and basil and John Clarke and about six other FReepers."

I was there on that tour, too. At the very least, the body was moved. Foster did not get there under his own power. I believe that he was murdered mainly because of the reaction of x42 etal and how the investigation was handled.

41 posted on 08/21/2002 11:03:32 AM PDT by Badray
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To: Badray
Hey Badray, there was a nice snowfall on the ground during our tour.
42 posted on 08/21/2002 11:05:16 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Howlin
I believe autopsy photos should be private matters between families and authorities ONLY, period.

I believe that public officials lose that expectation of privacy upon becoming "public", comma, and I believe that the authorities must answer to those whom they serve (the Public), period.

And don't try that "rule of law" crap on me; I see enough twisting of the law around here to know not everybody agrees with every single law on the books.

Why? Do your fear it will come back to bite you on the gumper at some later date? I disagree with the laws preventing Cops from profiling islamo-terrorists, but I expect the authorities to comply with those laws nevertheless, and not try to excuse it for the sake of convenience.

43 posted on 08/21/2002 11:17:32 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Howlin
I believe autopsy photos should be private matters between families and authorities ONLY, period.

The authorities? Puhleez! It is "the authorities" who have betrayed us on this. If they had done a thorough and honest investigation, we would not be doing this. BTW, is this the Howlin I remember? You sure don't sound like the same one today.

44 posted on 08/21/2002 11:21:39 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Teacher317; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
I can't find her last post, though.

Hey, can someone from the FR powers-that-be catalog BKO's posts here at FR? Also, can someone put a memorial wreath image on her profile page (maybe an eternal flame animated image, too)? Thanks.

45 posted on 08/21/2002 11:25:30 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Howlin
If the picture was produced showing a bullet hole in the neck & one in the mouth who could argue with the "it was murder crowd"? Nobody.
46 posted on 08/21/2002 11:33:36 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Howlin
There is absolutely NO NEED to release these pictures to the public. None.

There is definitely a reason to release such photographs when these matters are decided in open trial. There was no open trial, so we have "reports," in lieu of open trial. Reports are not as good as an open trial, as evidenced by the continuing controversy. Making photographs available brings the situation closer to that of an open trial, which may help bring matters to a conclusion. So THAT is the NEED for the pictures being made available.

47 posted on 08/21/2002 11:39:24 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Howlin
I believe autopsy photos should be private matters between families and authorities ONLY, period.

Gee, you had me goin so much that I completely overlooked that you had changed the subject to autopsy photos. Who said anything about autopsy photos?

48 posted on 08/21/2002 11:40:19 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Ditter
Yes, but if these photos could somehow dampen Hillary's chances for President, that would be grand!
49 posted on 08/21/2002 11:40:49 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Samizdat; AJFavish
We forgot to flag Allan J. Favish to this thread.
50 posted on 08/21/2002 11:42:06 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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