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Father Steals Best: Crime in an American Family
NY Times ^ | 8-21-02 | FOX BUTTERFIELD

Posted on 08/21/2002 11:32:13 AM PDT by Pharmboy

SALEM, Ore., Aug. 15 — Rooster Bogle came up to the rich Willamette Valley here from Texas as a migrant worker in 1961, already having served hard time in prison and with a habit of beating his wife and teaching his children to steal.

Rooster, as Dale Vincent Bogle was known, taught them well. By the time the boys were 10 years old they were breaking into liquor stores for their dad or stealing tractor-trailer trucks, hundreds of them. The girls turned to petty crimes to support their drug addictions.

Rooster Bogle, patriarch of a
clan with 28 current or former convicts.

In time, everybody went to jail, or to state prison, as did many of Rooster's brothers and their families. By official count, 28 in the Bogle clan have been arrested and convicted, including several of Rooster's grandchildren. Rooster Bogle (rhymes with mogul) himself died in 1998, of natural causes.

"Rooster raised us to be outlaws," said Tracey Bogle, the youngest of Rooster's children by his wife, Kathryn, now 55. "There is a domino effect in a family like ours," Tracey said. "What you're raised with, you grow to become. You don't escape."

Tracey Bogle, who is 29, would know. He is serving a 15-year sentence for kidnapping, rape, assault, robbery and burglary at the Snake River Correctional Institution in the high desert of eastern Oregon near the Idaho border. He committed the crimes with one of his older brothers, Robert Zane Bogle. Their oldest brother, Tony, is serving a life term in Arizona for murder. Their mother was released from Klamath County jail only last month.

For all this criminal activity, the Bogle clan is merely an extreme example of a phenomenon that prison officials, the police and criminal justice experts have long observed, that crime often runs in families.

Justice Department figures show that 47 percent of inmates in state prisons have a parent or other close relative who has also been incarcerated, said Allen J. Beck of the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Similarly, the link between the generations is so powerful that half of all juveniles in custody have a father, mother or other close relative who has been in jail or prison, Mr. Beck said.

Despite this statistical evidence, until very recently states paid little attention to the family cycle of crime. But in the last year Oregon has introduced a pioneering program that tries to break the cycle by asking all newly admitted inmates whether they have a relative who has been incarcerated and whether they themselves have children.

If the inmates do have a relative who has been locked up, the state is now offering services for them, including drug and alcohol treatment, mental health counseling and courses in preventing domestic violence. In addition, Oregon has begun to try to keep track of the inmates' children more carefully, identifying who they are staying with and whether the children are at risk of being exposed to physical or sexual abuse.

The cost of ignoring this cycle of criminality is a burden to taxpayers, said Fay Gentle, the training and transition coordinator for the Oregon Department of Corrections.

An analysis by her office found that the cost for incarcerating just five of the 28 convicted Bogle family members was almost $3 million. That is not counting the expense of their trials, or of probation or parole after their release, or the costs if they are arrested again.

A nephew of Rooster's, Louis Bogle, 42, will be a cost to Oregon for as long as he lives. In 1993, five days after his last release from prison, he went in search of methamphetamine. Louis had a total of 25 arrests, everything from drug possession and theft to endangering the welfare of a minor. He had always survived, but this time his luck ran out. He owed money to the Mexican drug dealers he went to buy methamphetamine from, so they shot him up with liquid Drano.

That put him in a coma. Louis recovered consciousness a month later but remains paralyzed from the neck down, a resident in a nursing home paid for by the state in the farm town of Lebanon.

"Too mean to die," Louis said, lying flat on his back on a hospital bed, his arms and chest festooned with prison tattoos.

There are a number of reasons that people with parents who have been incarcerated are more likely to be locked up themselves, Ms. Gentle said. Many grow up in families afflicted by poverty, abuse, neglect and drug use, all factors that can lead to criminality. But to Ms. Gentle, a critical reason is simply how the children in families like the Bogles learn to imitate their parents. "Instead of learning appropriate behavior, they are learning how to cheat, lie, steal and manipulate," Ms. Gentle said. "Kids are so eager to please, they imitate their parents."

Ms. Gentle herself had a childhood not that different from the Bogles'. Her parents were migrant workers who abandoned her in Oregon after a bad car accident. Like the Bogles, her parents came to Oregon to pick apples, pears and cherries, and she lived in the back of the car and ate food her father stole at truck stops.

"I loved my father so much that even when he beat my mother when he was drunk, I'd wait with him when the police came," Ms. Gentle said. But after she was abandoned, she realized she had been lucky. It broke the cycle of violence.

For Tracey Bogle, now at the Snake River prison, some of his earliest memories are his mother's blood when Rooster got drunk and beat her. His father carried a knife and taught the boys to fight and steal. If they did not fight and steal, he beat them for being cowards. Rooster said he was a Gypsy, that his mother was a Gypsy from Germany, and so they would live by stealing.

So Tracey started with shoplifting food, toys and clothes, and then graduated rapidly to stealing semi's, those big rigs running up and down Interstate 5 through Oregon. Semis were more desirable than cars because they carried much more gas and could go farther, and because they could survive a crash.

Once he and his brothers stole a semi in Salem and rammed it into the side of a gun store, right through the wall, making off with the guns. One semi he stole, loaded with $100,000 worth of sugar, landed him in the MacLaren Youth Correctional Facility in Salem when he was about 15. Altogether, he must have stolen 300 semis, Tracey figures.

That has netted him 12 years of incarceration since he quit school in eighth grade, most of his life since then, including jail time in Idaho, Nevada and California. But sitting in prison now, dressed in state-issue blue denim, he laughs loudly at his youthful memories. It was his childhood, the only one he knew, and so it was fun, even when it was painful.

For the girls in the extended Bogle family, most crime has involved drugs, but some have learned to be violent, too.

Florence Bogle Black, a niece of Rooster, remembers her father, Elvie, beating her mother when he was drunk and then when Florence was 11, sexually molesting her. "I don't hold it against him, he was drunk," Florence said. "But after that, I changed."

Soon she was doing drugs — methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin. "I would do whatever I could get, and if I didn't have the money, I'd lose all my morals," she said. She had her first baby at 15.

She was convicted of stabbing her husband and her best friend, who was also her husband's girlfriend. She was, she now recognizes, re-enacting the violence done to her.

Florence was saved by her sister, Tammie Bogle Stuckey, the recognized saint of the family, who has never been arrested or abused drugs but did go through two abusive marriages. Tammie now helps run five halfway houses for 45 newly released inmates as women's director of Stepping Out Ministry, a nonprofit religious agency started by her current husband, a former inmate himself.

"Working with these inmates, it seems perfectly normal," Tammie said. "They're just like my family."

Sometimes the residents in her transition houses are her family, including her brother Mark Bogle and a cousin, Jerrie Lynn Bogle Jones, convicted on prostitution charges related to her drug addiction.

One resident was her own son, Jason Bogle James, 27, who started drinking and taking acid at 13 and progressed to heroin and robbing a store, for which he was sentenced to five years in prison. When he was released, Tammie took him into her program, which has a strong Christian component, but found he was not serious about kicking his habit and was breaking her rules.

She kicked him out of the program and watched as his parole officer sent him back to jail when he failed a urine test. "I am actually relieved when he is in jail or prison," Tammie said, " 'cause I know he's not out trying to get himself killed."

Being a Bogle in Oregon carries a reputation. Tammie and Ricky Bogle, 23, the son of one of her cousins, say they have been stopped repeatedly by the Salem police simply because their license plates were registered to a Bogle. Driving while Bogle is the local form of profiling.

But once Ricky was stopped in a stolen car. That got him 13 months in Oregon State Correctional Institution in Salem, where he is confined now, in solitary. "Man, when you are raised in this family," Ricky said, "it's hard to get away from it."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: environment; familialcrime; genes
Genes or environment? A bit of both, I would imagine.
1 posted on 08/21/2002 11:32:13 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy; aculeus; Orual; general_re; T'wit; parsifal; Romulus; RikaStrom
bogle n. ... dial Brit : a goblin or specter : any object of dread, fear, or loathing : BOGEY

-- Webster's Third.


2 posted on 08/21/2002 11:43:59 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Leisler
Ping for America's version of the Bean clan...
3 posted on 08/21/2002 12:22:05 PM PDT by metesky
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To: dighton; Orual; aculeus
Rooster Bogle

In keeping with the rule of thumb that dictates that one should never play pool with men named after cities, there must be a rule about men named after farm animals...

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bogle

    1. A phantom causing fright; a goblin, bogy, or spectre of the night; an undefined creature of superstitious dread. (Usually supposed to be black, and to have something of human attributes, though spoken of as it.) Also, applied contemptuously to a human being who is ‘a fright to behold’.
 
  c1505 DUNBAR Tua mariit Wem. 111 The luif blenkis of that bogill, fra his blerde ene. 1535 STEWART Cron. Scot. III. 134 Like ane bogill all of ratland banis. 1646 R. BAILLIE Anabapt. (1647) 44 The Devils are nothing but only boggles in the night, to terrifie men. 1752 Scots Mag. (1753) Sept. 451/1 There used to be bogles seen. 1790 BURNS Tam o'Shanter, Whiles glow'ring round wi' prudent cares, Lest bogles catch him unawares. 1808 Cumbrian Ball. iii. 8 A boggle's been seen wi' twee heads. 1814 SCOTT Wav. lxxi, I played at bogle about the bush wi' them. 1822 T. BEWICK Mem. 20, I had not..got over a belief in ghosts and boggles. 1824 BYRON Juan XI. lxxii, A sort of sentimental bogle, Which sits for ever upon memory's crupper. 1832 SOUTHEY Lett. (1856) IV. 281 Boggles and Barguests are the only supernatural beings we hear of in these parts [Keswick]. 1864 TENNYSON North. Farmer viii, Theer wur a boggle in it, I often 'eerd un mysen.
 

    2. fig. and transf.    a. A bugbear (not a phantom).    b. A thing unsubstantial, a mere phantom.
 
  1663 LAUDERDALE in Papers (1884) I. cvi. 185, I have written so much that I doe feare my hand shall grow a bug~beare, or as we say heir a bogell. 1792 BURNS Despondency iii, The sillie bogles, wealth and state, Can never make them eerie.
 

    3. transf. A scarecrow. (In common use in north.)
 
  1830 GALT Lawrie T. VII. ix. (1849) 343 Bogles made of clouts. 1884 Gd. Words May 324/2 Potato bogles or scarecrows..vary in size..and dress, in nearly every parish.
 

    Hence {smm}bogle-{sm}bo [see BO.] = BOGLE; {sm}bogle-dom, the realm or domain of bogles.
 
  1603 Philotus ii, Quhat reck to tak the Bogill-bo, My bonie burd for anis. 1678 COLES Lat. Dict., Boggle-bo..an ugly wide-mouthed picture carried about with May games. 1730-6 BAILEY, Boggle-boe, a bugbear to fright Children, a scare crow. ?a1800 Rhymes in Proc. Berw. Nat. Club I. v. 148 The bogle bo' of Billy Mire Wha kills our bairns a'. 1860 G. H. K. Vac. Tour 171 Donald! Donald! keep out of the regions of bogledom.
 


4 posted on 08/21/2002 12:38:58 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Pharmboy
This is an interesting article in the New York Times. However, did anyone else notice that they had to go to Oregon to find a WHITE family that was filled with criminals in three generations? Isn't it possible, perhaps a lock solid certainty, that there are BLACK families like this in the NYC area?

But it just wouldn't be politically correct to have a chart of crime in a family with nothing but black faces, now would it? Besides, it's part of the general "look down our superior noses at everyone who's not from around here" atttitude of the Times.

Congressman Billybob

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5 posted on 08/21/2002 12:40:34 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Pharmboy
An analysis by her office found that the cost for incarcerating just five of the 28 convicted Bogle family members was almost $3 million. That is not counting the expense of their trials, or of probation or parole after their release, or the costs if they are arrested again.

Well, let's see... 28 divided by 5 is 5.6 times 3 mil is... $16,800,000. Bunch 'o bucks for these sleaze balls.

And there are those that claim involuntary sterilization is inhumane. :)

6 posted on 08/21/2002 12:43:03 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: Pharmboy
The family that PREYS togather stays togather...

cheers,

knews hound

7 posted on 08/21/2002 12:48:03 PM PDT by knews_hound
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To: upchuck
Fight'n crime is big buisness. Of course if "We only had more resources....." You know the drill.
8 posted on 08/21/2002 12:51:11 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Congressman Billybob
I did think--as I read the article in this morning's paper--that if the family was of color the Times would not have published it. It's ALWAYS open season on white people at the Times.
9 posted on 08/21/2002 12:51:39 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: knews_hound
Good one, bro.
10 posted on 08/21/2002 12:52:44 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: dighton
I wonder (since he had claimed to be a gypsy) if he could trace his way back to those English gypsy-type wanderers? (I forgot their name--someone help me out here; Clinton was accused of having come from them).
11 posted on 08/21/2002 12:54:58 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
A convicing argument for "three strikes your out"
12 posted on 08/21/2002 1:08:35 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Pharmboy
For the U.S. you might start with Irish Travellers, Murphys and McDonalds.

Brad Pitt took a role in a low budget English film in which he played an Irish Traveller type in England. Maybe that was "Snatch." Not a bad flik.
13 posted on 08/21/2002 1:12:14 PM PDT by decimon
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To: dighton; general_re; aculeus

Okay you guys, what's a Cogburn?

14 posted on 08/21/2002 1:22:10 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Congressman Billybob
But it just wouldn't be politically correct to have a chart of crime in a family with nothing but black faces...

A bit harder to trace genealogies.

15 posted on 08/21/2002 2:10:26 PM PDT by Salman
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To: metesky
Damn, I thought I would get to make the first Sawney Bean reference.
16 posted on 08/21/2002 2:25:46 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: dighton; Orual; general_re
The same author has done it for another family.
17 posted on 08/21/2002 2:32:00 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: decimon
The Travelers, that's it. Thanks.
18 posted on 08/21/2002 2:46:23 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
I wonder (since he had claimed to be a gypsy) if he could trace his way back to those English gypsy-type wanderers? (I forgot their name--someone help me out here; Clinton was accused of having come from them).

The Irish have the Travelers but I'm not aware of their English counterpart.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 2:46:34 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Congressman Billybob; Pharmboy
The same author wrote a book about a similar non-white family. See my #17 for el-linko.
20 posted on 08/21/2002 2:52:54 PM PDT by aculeus
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family

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/737017/<img ----- "The requested document does not exist on this server."

21 posted on 08/21/2002 2:56:01 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Pharmboy
Genes or environment? A bit of both, I would imagine

Reminds me of an old sociological study, the "Jukes and the Kallikaks." Haven't heard that study mentioned for years; must be politically incorrect.

22 posted on 08/21/2002 3:00:04 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: dighton; Pharmboy; Congressman Billybob
Link for 17 in cut-and-paste form.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0380728621/qid=1029965193/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4432621-3943949
23 posted on 08/21/2002 3:00:08 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
That worked -- thanks.
24 posted on 08/21/2002 3:03:35 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Leisler
There is a sure fire way to stop things like this.

After the third felony conviction for any reason, use 9 cents of lead to the back of the head.

Would cut down the need for prisons, and probably reduce the crime rate.

25 posted on 08/21/2002 3:04:33 PM PDT by rollin
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To: Orual; dighton; Pharmboy; Congressman Billybob
Sorry.

It was the amazon link for this book:


All God's Children: The Bosket Family and the American Tradition of Violence
by Fox Butterfield

Now that I am recalling better the theme for this book is that these African-Americans picked up the violence habit by observing violent whites in the Carolinas.

It's been years since I read the reviews but that recollection would fit the Times typical slant. (It is also extremely stupid.)
26 posted on 08/21/2002 3:10:21 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
All God's Children

Just as you said, from one of the reviews:

Butterfield presents a fascinating discussion of American violence. He suggests that contemporary black violence is a tradition inherited from white southern violence, theorizing that white honor, slave reputation, and black respect are codes capable of provoking violence if impugned, or even slightly stepped on. Butterfield considered closely the political, social, judicial, and racial climates influencing violence, particularly their impact on the Boskets, a black U.S. family.

27 posted on 08/21/2002 3:17:39 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Britton J Wingfield; Leisler
Sawney Bean and his fine family are a sort of running joke between Leisler and me.

I use them as an example of his fine Scottish heritage and he unfairly keeps reminding me that Greek soldiers wear dresses.

28 posted on 08/21/2002 3:27:05 PM PDT by metesky
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To: Pharmboy
We have many "crankster ganster" families here in Oregon. My wallet was stolen in 1970 by one member of a particularly nasty clan. Before the next decade began, I spent five days in jail twice for crimes where he pawned himself off as me using my license. (I have changed my number.)

I had to clear up tickets, and had many other nightmare hassls over this identity theft. I also have run into others in his disfunctional family who thought my anger and plight was at best funny.

Even though many of them didn't like this guy themselves.

He and his brothers and their kids keep a top lawyer on retainer, and are in and out of prison all the time.

This is a real problem, and these people are a blight on humanity merely by existing.

29 posted on 08/21/2002 3:33:39 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: metesky
"...Greek soldiers wear dresses." It was a tactical decision on their part. When the hill Amazons attacked, they'd assume the mustached, hairy chested dress wearers were females and bypass them.
30 posted on 08/21/2002 4:04:06 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: rollin
I'd go one better - and this is the ONLY thing about the Chinese that I respect - the family has to pay for the ammunition used in the execution....
31 posted on 08/21/2002 4:17:07 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: NorCoGOP
Historically, the Chinese also held the family fully responsible for crimes committed by any of it's members.

That has changed naturally, but I am sure some people there long for this old legal principle to be revived there.

32 posted on 08/21/2002 4:20:52 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: Pharmboy
"I wonder (since he had claimed to be a gypsy) if he could trace his way back to those English gypsy-type wanderers? (I forgot their name--someone help me out here; Clinton was accused of having come from them)."

I don't know what name you're talking about...but, I don't know it either.

The Gypsies are originally from The Indus Valley.(In India)
Thousands of years ago 10,000 at a time were given away by their king to the kings of other nations. The gypsies we are familar with were the descendents of those given to the king of Iran who escaped and settled in Egypt.
Once they began to migrate out of Egypt and into Europe, the Europeans thought they were Egyptians and called them 'Gypsies.'

33 posted on 08/21/2002 4:28:52 PM PDT by blam
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To: Glutton
Too bad the Darwin award is self-inflicted, and not awarded. Prime candidate family here.
34 posted on 08/21/2002 4:36:34 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: Pharmboy
It bogles the mind!!!!
35 posted on 08/21/2002 4:39:13 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: blam
The English variety of gypsy--not related genetically to the Rom or India-derived gypsies--(see example of them in very funny movie "Snatch") is called the Travelers.
36 posted on 08/22/2002 5:40:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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