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The night I would have killed (Do not read while eating)
Boulder Weekly ^ | 8/02 | by Pamela White

Posted on 08/22/2002 1:42:56 PM PDT by AdamSelene235

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To: AdamSelene235
I would have been placing my life and happiness above theirs...

This is unbelievable! What if the two cops don't make in time, next time? What an idiot!

BTW, no husband...?

61 posted on 08/22/2002 2:49:48 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: AdamSelene235
. When we kill, however, we negate the value of others and put our souls at risk.

If someone tried to break into my house again, I'd probably still call the guys who pack heat for a living. I won't carry a gun. I let them carry one for me. Second Amendment supporters would say that makes me a hypocrite or even unpatriotic.

I wonder then, if she's ever considered the morality of calling on someone else who might, potentially have to kill on her behalf in order to save her own soul.

62 posted on 08/22/2002 2:51:01 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: spqrzilla9
I don't find the piece stupid...

Go back and read the line that contains this: ...I would have been placing my life and happiness above theirs...

63 posted on 08/22/2002 2:52:26 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: pankot
Whoever it is hasn't studied the Bible. The Commandment correctly translated is "Thou Shalt Not Murder". There are plenty of places that allow self-defense or saving the life of another innocent.

More than allowing self-defense of the saving of another's life, the Bible (Hebrew anyway, I'm no expert in the New Testament) and associated writings (the Talmud, which interprets the Hebrew Bible) indicate that it is required. Failure to save your own life when you can is stealing from G-d. He gave you a life for a reason, so that you could develop your soul and make the world a better place. To so carelessly throw it away is to throw away a priceless gift.

Another way of looking at this is how Jews look at the subject of death as related to the soul: basically, physical death ends the ability of the soul to do good deeds, to learn from moral errors and to teach others how to do good instead of evil.

Yet another way of looking at this is the following: The Talmud indicates that each life should be looked at as if it were the whole world. Why? Because the world would be different if that life didn't exist, thereby "destroying" the world in which the life did exist. Hence the saying that "he who destroys one life destroys the world, but he who says one life saves the world." In the case of this idiotic and amoral/immoral woman, had she and her son been murdered due to her failure to defend herself, she'd have been guilty of destroying the world twice. OK, I'll give her a break - maybe she was so naive before the incident in question that she had no gun. But after this, to refuse to defend yourself and your family? And to publish this BS story, obviously intending to influence others to do the same - how many others will fail to defend themselves because of her story? How many others will not be as lucky as she and her son? How many worlds will she destroy?

64 posted on 08/22/2002 2:56:12 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Xenalyte
Where was her baby's daddy that night?

Probably at the bar picking up a girlfriend for the night.

Sounds like a single mommy at the time of the break-in.

65 posted on 08/22/2002 2:57:21 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: AdamSelene235
Well fine! If they had killed her who would have raised her child? It seems to be a single parent household. I guess 'the village' would have raised it.
66 posted on 08/22/2002 3:01:10 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ancesthntr
Well, just when I think I have heard it all. This selfish, preening, self rightous, smug woman wont put her life above her attackers but hey, let the cops have a go at it. I always thought that once you had kids, you had an OBLIGATION TO KEEP LIVING AND PROTECTING THE CHILDREN YOU BORE. And what about the next poor victim and the next. And did she ever think that, well, she could use her gun to shoot to wound not kill if she was squeamish. She is indulging in vanity here, but it floats her rather precarious boat. Now her child is growing up, wonder how she feels about this. My kids know I would walk over fire, glass, shooting nonstop at any predator who came near them, shooting to kill and shooting again. They felt safe. Her child must feel so alone with this weak sister of a mother. Bet she listens to Yanni on the record player while she smokes dope and does some kind of therapeutic massage on some group of huggers.
67 posted on 08/22/2002 3:02:04 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Bigg Red
As I said, I don't agree with her but its her opinion and she acknowledges the hypocrisy of it and that others can legitimately hold other opinions.
68 posted on 08/22/2002 3:04:13 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: spqrzilla9
Well I have rethought my previous post and realize, whack me upside the head, that I am totally off base. SHE NEEDS A HUSBAND AND A FREEPER HUSBAND. So who is going to volunteer. And if this affects actions in Boulder, well those cops will get alot of overtime running from home to home defending helpless people.
69 posted on 08/22/2002 3:07:38 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: AdamSelene235
Sounds like your mentor was a survivor of the Heaven's Gate Cult and is upset because she missed the spaceship with her brothers and sisters.

If your looking for the comet, it's under the sink.

70 posted on 08/22/2002 3:09:01 PM PDT by slimer
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To: AdamSelene235
Breathtaking stupidity.

Read this and you'll feel better:

Mother of Eight Kills Terrorist With His Own Knife

71 posted on 08/22/2002 3:09:58 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: AdamSelene235
Her response, to the best of my recollection, was this: "Certainly it would be horrible if they had done what they wanted to do, but if you had shot them it could have cost you your soul."

Says who?

72 posted on 08/22/2002 3:11:29 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: hchutch
"Same here. I wouldn't want to be in that situation by any stretch of the imagination, but if I were, I'd be ready for that possbility, and I would not go quietly."

Do not go gently into that good night

Rage- Rage against the dying light

and then empty the clip.

My thoughts through Dillon Thomas

I am a single father that raised six sons. Nobody would ever threaten my sons. Break into my house prepare for at the least a sucking chest wound. Ofcourse as my sons are Marines I would have to get in line. Damn I hate waiting in line.

best regards

the dozer



73 posted on 08/22/2002 3:11:58 PM PDT by dozer7
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To: facedown
notha product of them go'mint schools, i reckon
74 posted on 08/22/2002 3:12:59 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Burn24
And who chooses for the little kid.... Silly, liberals never take little ones into consideration when making decisions. Heck they kill them even before they are born.
75 posted on 08/22/2002 3:16:01 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: TheEngineer
"Certainly it would be horrible if they had done what they wanted to do,
but if you had shot them it could have cost you your soul."


Where in the Bible does it say that you can lose your soul by taking out the garbage?
76 posted on 08/22/2002 3:19:50 PM PDT by gc4nra
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To: Orual; dighton; general_re
That truth, as far as I've been able to discern (and I do not claim to be an expert or have the inside line), is that in dying, we risk nothing. We lose nothing. All that we are, all that we've done, all that we love stays with us.

And if you let someone kill your child???

77 posted on 08/22/2002 3:21:24 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: AdamSelene235
Not long after the break-in, I shared those thoughts with a former professor of mine, now a friend and mentor.

That's where the breathtaking stupidity comes from these days.....

78 posted on 08/22/2002 3:24:29 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: dozer7
Dozer, would one of your fine sons go protect this bimbo from herself as an act of charity,,she may be cute.
79 posted on 08/22/2002 3:25:21 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: AdamSelene235
Like most liberals Ms. white would have been perfectly happy to see the police officers "lose" their souls to protect her miserable life. Like hillary, she is perfectly happy to give your hard earned money away, as long as she gets to keep hers. Nice people, these liberals.
80 posted on 08/22/2002 3:26:31 PM PDT by desertcry
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