Posted on 08/22/2002 9:17:58 PM PDT by mhking
I can be pretty resourceful when I need to be...
They need to identify the rights of the citizens and limits on the power of their government before they start to establish policy. That way any attempts to go more Islamic in government would be met with a response that people of other religions have a right to exist and hold their faiths.
You: I think that's what the lady with the stack of ballot is. No?
Good catch! I hadn't noticed her before. I think you may be right, the cartoon might be a bit more sarcastic than it looks!
You mean ""a Secretary of State, ready to stop illegal recounts".
Ater all, without felon, illegal immigrant and dead voters (both brain dead and otherwise) - where would you Democrats be?
Facts matter, even when inconvenient for you. You should try them sometime.
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Speak for yourself. The disqualification of military votes was a travesty - but I suppose that's SOP for Democrats.
The subject is the attempted theft of an election by your kind - and the stereotypical transference of this crime by Democrats onto Republicans, who in this case were blocking your larceny. Dig?
As for your assertion that blacks were 4 times more likely to be incorrectly identified as felons - maybe that would have something to do with the disproportionate amount of blacks who happen to be felons, or in some way involved in the justice system - way out of proportion to their percentage of the population. I guess you might call that a travesty of the justice system. I call it brutal statistics. But if the same error rate is applied to both populations (white felons and black felons) - you will get a reflection in the error rates of the original disproportion.
As for your indignation at my charge that Democrats would not be where they are if not for felon, illegal immigrants and dead voters, all we need to do is look at a little history. Chicago in the 1960's would be a good start. All the major stories of vote theft in this century center around Democrats - Kennedy and Johnson immediately come to mind. And then in this most recent election - the polls kept open beyond legal hours in Missouri, the early calling of Florida for Gore before the Panhandle polling sites had closed, the better than 100 percent voter participation in Philadelphia, Democrats are the masters of this particular stuff.
As for my comment about "your larceny" perhaps I made a hasty generalization - but I thought you wanted the Secretary of State to violate established Florida law - so your man Algore could get a second, third, fourth, fifth chance, or how many chances he needs to "fix" things to get a "fair" tally. Maybe I was inaccurate. But I don't think so.
But again, I reiterate that a disproportionate amount of blacks are wards of the justice system - as compared to whites. This is readily verifiable via any statistical analysis - be it by liberals or conservatives. And thus a disproportionate amount of blacks will be prone to felon classification errors by that justice system.
Now, on to the greater issue of vote fraud. I do not believe there was a plan to disqualify black voters, for the simple reason that they voted in heavily Democratic polling places - and white and black Democrats are united in hating the evil Republicans. However, we do know there was a systematic plan to disqualify military voters - the Democrat lawyers were the first to proudly announce that. And as for illegal immigrants and unregistered voters - don't think for a minute that a system that does not demand proof of ID is going to be able to deter that. And how many thousands and thousands of illegal votes did THAT garner for Democrats? I don't know - but I can match you anecdote for anecdote.
As for the calling of Florida before the conservative panhandle had closed - how many thousands and thousands of votes did THAT cost the GOP? I am not so willing to put this down as an "innocent" mistake by a left-leaning mainstream press. They know the rules - but they were letting it be known every way they could, how they were rooting for "our side" - even saying that phrase on air.
Finally, as for linking to articles - we can do that all day long. There's a thousand places I could send YOU if I thought that was an appropriate way to discuss or prove an assertion. But I prefer to make my points here, and back them up with upfront and on-the-table substantiation.
P.S. DU is the Democrat version of Free Republic, even if in concept only
We have illegals being allowed to vote in elections. You don't even need to show ID here to vote....all you need is to recite your name and address.
I found out one year that someone used my name and address to vote in Hollywoood after I moved to Santa Monica. Election fraud is rampant out here and no one seems to care. As an example, look how both Dems and Pubs looked the other way when Loretta "Bunny" Sanchez stole the election from Bob Dornan. He had lots of proof, but no one would listen.
Of course, we can't forget the famous line from the Daley mobsters that sums it all up, "Vote early & Vote Often"
I don't have any doubts that some people might have been excluded erroneously. No system that big is going to be perfect. But the real and wilfull travesties are occuring on the other side of the ledger - and by Democrats in particular.
In a perfect system - all rightful voters would be able to vote -BUT...felons would not be able to vote, arbitrary military exclusions would not occur - nor would the illegal and unethical calling of Florida by the media before polls in the GOP-stronghold panhandle had closed. And most important of all, fraudulent voting by illegal immigrants/unregistered voter/multiple voters would be shut down. Put all those together and I don't think you Democrats would win a national election for the rest of this decade.
P.S. articles are "posted" on the web. I don't know why you insist on such a fallback defense. You're not doing that bad. A whole lot better than your typical DU type. :)
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