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Assignment America: Smoke screens/One of the best articles I have read!
United Press International ^ | 22 August 2002 | John Bloom

Posted on 08/23/2002 5:39:18 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: pittsburgh gop guy
I don't care what it is. He is still good looking! :) Wonder if he drinks beer.........


101 posted on 08/23/2002 7:52:21 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: LuigiBasco
SheLion "I guess you would rather we abort our baby's eh?"

LuigiBasco "Right on SheLion this clown is an ass!"

No brownie points for not shredding your offspring.

102 posted on 08/23/2002 7:53:06 PM PDT by Lester Moore
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To: SheLion
We have to kiss ole beer breath ...

but the ones who are really toxic,
and present company is here, of course, summarily excluded,
are the female nincompoops who bathe in their perfume,
then wonder why those around them are suddenly no longer around them !

by god, it's time for a serious tax on eau de toilette ! (or whatever)
think of all the little kids no longer traumatized by old aunt jane's endless lavender hugs !

103 posted on 08/23/2002 7:54:18 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SheLion
My guy is an Irish Catholic who loves his beer! It's not pleasant but who am I to tell him not to drink? He owns a bar and that comes with the territory. I used to go there quite a bit until I became a grandma. Now, I spend all my time with the babies. I blow my smoke right into their cute little faces! Actually, I have two air purifiers and only smoke in my tiny computer room or outside when they are around out of respect for them and my kids. Too bad, these do-gooders don't share the same respect.
104 posted on 08/23/2002 7:55:53 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: tomkat
think of all the little kids no longer traumatized by old aunt jane's endless lavender hugs !

Oh! I remember those! :)

105 posted on 08/23/2002 7:55:57 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: FreeAtlanta
You sound like an open and honest person, FA.

It's easy to dialog with people such as yourself.

Most of us agree with everything you say with the one exception being that we think the business owner should set the conditions, not gub'mint.

106 posted on 08/23/2002 7:56:15 PM PDT by metesky
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To: Jaidyn
I have the HEPA Air Cleaners too. They are great!

You know the bars of today have the big smoke eaters, and there isn't a reason to have smokey bars like before. The smoke eaters leave the air clean as glass. You have to look to see if anyone is smoking. I love it! And no stale cigarette smell, either.

107 posted on 08/23/2002 7:57:48 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: tomkat
You said it!!! Or men that bathe in after shave and cologne! Man, sometimes I can even taste that crap. If they can't smell a gallon of scent on them, how in the world do they smell smoke?
108 posted on 08/23/2002 7:58:19 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Lester Moore
The burden of smokers longterm healthcare costs on our social safety nets ... yadayadayada

either you've done ZERO research on this subject,
or think you'll just slide in here and tell all us ignorant chumps what's what, huh ?

109 posted on 08/23/2002 7:58:32 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: *all
Correction: I don't know WHY I typed Wisconsin. I am in Maine. Damn claws.

I am doing a piece on what the smokers pay in Wisconsin, so that state is on my mind. Sorry for the confusion.

110 posted on 08/23/2002 7:59:48 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
This guy nailed it in the first couple of paragraphs. The words "zealots" springs to mind. I'm a scientist, we prove, or disprove hypothesis with solid, researched, and peer reviewed facts. We do that to advance the knowledge of man to serve man, and dispell myths and lies & confusion. In order to be a "scientist" you must leave all of your ideals & beliefs at the door of the lab. You must take a strong tack that deals in science and pure logic. I can tell you that I have run up some blind alleys that I thought would change the world, but I had to write them up honestly, and without bias. Then again, I've had wonderful accomplishments by doing the very same things (and they were proven, and peer reviewed, denoting a fact that proved the hypothesis).

When I see this kind of crap I wonder where the funding came from (research ain't cheap). The second hand smoke argument got the file thirteen a long time ago in a Federal court. The few, and biased (un-peer reviewed, undocumented, and weakly..poorly done) studies were thrown out of the court into the trash can that they so richly deserved. They have been PROVEN to be lies, unsubstantiated glods of written words and useless statistics. Yet the socialist/elistists that don't like people doing a freedom thing, blasts it across the airways and the print media like it's the truth from heaven, and they use these disproven, charlantanic studies to bolster thier claims. Amazing, simply amazing!

When people start disbelieving the logical science that will save them and believe the charlatans that would enslave them, what can the scientist do. I'll fight the charlatans, I guess, I've got no choice, I've done it all my life.

111 posted on 08/23/2002 8:00:19 PM PDT by timydnuc
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To: Jaidyn
i did, of course, intend to include those nincompoops on my side of the gender fence as well ...   
112 posted on 08/23/2002 8:01:14 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Stop! (sob) Please stop! (sob) I... I can't go on. (sob)
113 posted on 08/23/2002 8:02:07 PM PDT by metesky
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To: SheLion
These anti-smoking men of today are big wusses.

LOL! I'm an anti-smoker male & if my wife starts smoking I will divorce her for it. Nothing! turns me off like the retching odor of a smoking woman.

114 posted on 08/23/2002 8:05:33 PM PDT by Lester Moore
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To: Lester Moore
I'm an anti-smoker male & if my wife starts smoking I will divorce her for it.

I could make a comment here but it would be unwarranted since I don't know you or your wife.
BUT, as I tell my daughter, you shouldn't set yourself up like that, someone will take advantage of it sooner or later.

115 posted on 08/23/2002 8:07:41 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: timydnuc
It's people like you that help me maintain my sanity in a world that has gone nuts! We have a constitution that is interpreted to mean whatever these idiots want rather than the simple meanings that was intended. I always wondered why the primary books no longer included Dick, Jane, Sally, Spot and Puff. Now, I know. There were no commas or asides for them to dispute. It's ridiculous.
116 posted on 08/23/2002 8:08:38 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Lester Moore
... and what a lucky gal she is
117 posted on 08/23/2002 8:11:37 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Just another Joe
why are my ears burning ?
118 posted on 08/23/2002 8:12:47 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Lester Moore
The burden of smokers longterm healthcare costs on our social safety nets is costing me money. That makes it my business.

Total bullpuckey...and you know it. Your line above reeks of "Democrat Underground".....you really, really need to reconsider you registration here. This is not a forum for those concerned with "social safety nets".

119 posted on 08/23/2002 8:13:13 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Lester Moore; SheLion
Lester, wouldn't the consevative position be to work to get government out of the healthcare business, keep more of Moore's money, rather than demonize and hound your fellow citizens and taxpayers?

Like the screen name, by the way.

You're not from Tombstone are ya, Les?

120 posted on 08/23/2002 8:13:35 PM PDT by metesky
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