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An 'Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 | BY BRIAN MITCHELL

Posted on 08/28/2002 9:16:46 AM PDT by sixmil

Patrick J. Buchanan isn't giving up. He's left the Republican Party for good. And he isn't planning a fourth run for the White House.

But he is finally trying something fans have been telling him to do for years. He's founding a magazine.

The new, bi-weekly magazine will debut next month and be called "The American Conservative." Scott McConnell, former editorial-page editor of the New York Post, will edit it. Society gadfly Taki Theodoracopulos will help with cash.

Buchanan is upbeat, about the magazine at least.

"We hope to have a conservative magazine which is genuinely and authentically conservative," he said. "We hope it will be sort of a rallying point for the conservatism that is really utterly unrepresented by either the K Street conservatives or the Weekly Standard, National Review, Commentary, New Republic neocons."

IBD talked with Buchanan at his home in Virginia to get a flavor for the new journal.

IBD: How are we doing in the war on terror?

Buchanan: I think the president did a bully job of diplomacy and moral leadership from September to January. The way they fought that war and won it was outstanding. It was a moral and just war, fought in a moral and just way.

But when he got into identifying an "axis of evil" and then threatening pre-emptive strikes against all nations that might develop the kinds of weapons we've had for the past century, he lost his focus. He has disrupted alliances. He has threatened actions that we don't have the troops in place to take.

He's asserting a right to wage pre-emptive war without the approval of Congress on any nation that aspires to build the kinds of weapons we've had since World Wars I and II. I don't think he's got the right to do that, and I think a policy of warning about pre-emptive strikes is the kind of policy that could invite pre-emptive strikes against us.

IBD: What about a war with Iraq?

Buchanan: Anybody who has a state, including Saddam Hussein, is going to be reluctant to go to war against the United States or to commit any atrocity which would put them in a war with the U.S. Containment and deterrence will work with almost any state.

Saddam is terrified of the United States. He wants to hand over his power to one of these sons of his. He's got all these palaces out there.

Why in heaven's name would he want to trigger a war with the United States of America and have all that blown to kingdom come along with him, his sons, his family, his dynasty, his army, everything?

I don't think we should give up on the policy of deterrence. It frightened Joe Stalin. It frightened Mao Tse-tung. These guys are not in that league.

IBD: What should we be doing here at home?

Buchanan: The first thing we should do is get serious about border security. Since 9-11, we've only had 411,000 illegal aliens come into the United States.

If there is a weapon of mass destruction smuggled into this country, the whole idea of global interdependence and 10,000 Mexican trucks coming into the U.S. every day, almost all of them not inspected, and over a million containers - that's going to come to an end.

It will be a very powerful argument for retiring to economic independence and economic nationalism, where you do not have thousands of people crossing your border every day. One or two more of these attacks and globalization itself is in trouble.

IBD: What will that mean for an open society?

Buchanan: I'm a believer in an open society, I'm a believer in a free society, and this is why I'm opposed to the idea of an empire. They say we need a Department of Homeland Security. I thought the Defense Department was in charge of homeland security. Apparently it's in charge of empire security.

Of what advantage is all this American empire, interfering in all these quarrels around the world, if as a consequence we lose freedom at home and live in constant danger of some kind of small atomic weapon detonated on American soil?

I think the American empire is going to go, and I think that's a good thing. The reason they were over here on 9-11 is that we are over there.

IBD: Where do you see things 10 years from now?

Buchanan: I regret that for the rest of Mr. Bush's first term, we're going to be at war. The president has subcontracted out our Middle East policy to Ariel Sharon, and I think that's a dreadful mistake.

Palestinian terrorists ought to be condemned and Israel has a right to peace, but you have to give the Palestinian people some hope. And I think Bush's (June 24) speech gives them very, very little hope. I think his speech could have been written in Tel Aviv.

IBD: Will there ever be a Palestinian state?

Buchanan: I think the question is not whether there'll be a Palestinian state. There may be two. The ultimate question is whether there's going to be a Jewish state in the Mideast. I think Ariel Sharon is leading them into a cul-de-sac from which there is no way out but back through Oslo and Tabaah and the Saudi plan.


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To: BlueNgold; Tuco-bad
Just because he says he is the epitome of conservatism does not make it true.

I thought Tuco Bad said that.

41 posted on 08/28/2002 10:40:36 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: PuNcH
Isn't your Senator McCain also strongly FOR illegal immigration on a perverted view of the "melting pot" theory? Why does AZ tolerate McCain? Will he have a primary opponent in 2004?
42 posted on 08/28/2002 10:41:08 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: sixmil
Buchanan can't get 1% of the vote...he is a noisy nat....a has been...no longer listened to but by the phone booth convention crowd.
43 posted on 08/28/2002 10:41:40 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: rogerthedoger
There already is a Palestinian state: It's called Michigan.
44 posted on 08/28/2002 10:41:53 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: dwilli
You are right. Pat Buchanan is the liberal scaremonger's version of a right-wing Republican. He is a hater, pure and simple. Smell ya later, bitch. Have fun selling quarter page ads to the John Birch book club.
45 posted on 08/28/2002 10:42:57 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ravingnutter
They don't make those comments without the express consent of the Administration officials.
46 posted on 08/28/2002 10:44:49 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Sam's Army
I thought it was New Jersey (Hudson county anyways, Jersey City and Patterson to be specific)
47 posted on 08/28/2002 10:45:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sixmil
Republicans are really good at self destruction, with the help of the left-wing's useful idiots, the libertarians.

Well....guess I have to prepare for '04 when the far-left is given the rule of the land and turns the republic into a Marxist utopia.

48 posted on 08/28/2002 10:46:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: sixmil
Well, if you think that, then you must assume Pat is an idiot, because what Bush did on Sept. 14 was to say that those who support terrorists are our enemies. Pat endorsed that. Now he doesn't endorse going after those states?

Forget this "preemptive" crap. The first shots were fired in 1993. We need no more evidence about the "intentions" of Saddam. His actions speak loud enough. That ANY of these pipsqueak countries harbor and encourage these terrorists is reason for me to support taking them out.

It's sad Pat compartmentalizes the world, seeing Saddam as separate from the Pales and from the Saudis and from Osama. The more I see, the more I see that all these nations are intricately tied together in terror.

49 posted on 08/28/2002 10:46:42 AM PDT by LS
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To: Theodore R.
Why does AZ tolerate McCain?

It is mind boggling isnt it. AZ is a corrupt place where the republicans are very often just as corrupt as the democrats.

50 posted on 08/28/2002 10:47:25 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: hchutch
Furthermore, the fact remains that Reagan and Bush Jr.'s brand of conservatism...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

You were making a joke right? Comparing a conservative icon lion and a true leader to a timid lightwieght moderate who is spending OUR money like a spoiled mall twit who just won the damn lottery.

Reagan made it clear to everyone listening that "government is the problem". GWB thinks big government just hasn't been done right yet. He never had a rooted conservative philosophy and couldn't buy one if he tried.

51 posted on 08/28/2002 10:52:52 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Burkeman1
I cancelled NR,also. Will try Pat's new magazine.
52 posted on 08/28/2002 10:54:48 AM PDT by MacArthur
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To: Black Agnes
True, part of Orlando as well. No need to set off bombs on buses to get it, either.
53 posted on 08/28/2002 10:56:38 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: AAABEST
I wasn't kidding. Bush has been pretty good, all things considered.

I seriously do not think Reagan would be doing things much differently in the current situation.
54 posted on 08/28/2002 10:59:12 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: sixmil
I still don't understand Buchanan's sympathy
toward the Palestinians, but the rest is right on target.

It's the natural outcome of his antipathy towards Jews.

55 posted on 08/28/2002 11:00:51 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: hchutch
I wish the Federal Budget, immigration policy, tax policy, and foreign policy were stuck in the 1920's.
56 posted on 08/28/2002 11:03:39 AM PDT by muleboy
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To: AAABEST
I thought same thing myself, but elected to remain silent. I'm glad I did. Couldn't have said it so well as you did.
57 posted on 08/28/2002 11:05:00 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
It's the natural outcome of his antipathy towards Jews.

Buchanan: "Palestinian terrorists ought to be condemned and Israel has a right to peace..."
You are just like a leftist: nothing is forbidden in destroying the character of the "enemy" -- not even blatant lies. Another reason why the Left -- and their neo-con kid brothers -- disgusts me.
58 posted on 08/28/2002 11:05:11 AM PDT by Zviadist
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To: gcruse
I thought same thing myself, but elected to remain silent.

Well, for a brief (sadly, all too brief) moment, you were following the wisdom of "It is better to keep one's mouth shut, and merely be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

59 posted on 08/28/2002 11:09:40 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Zviadist
You are just like a leftist:

Pat is Joe Sobran in the shadows.
 

60 posted on 08/28/2002 11:10:13 AM PDT by gcruse
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