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Lessons from Rep. Cynthia McKinney's defeat [Michael Barone]
US News and World Report ^ | August 30, 2002 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/30/2002 12:00:38 PM PDT by aculeus

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1 posted on 08/30/2002 12:00:38 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
I think I'll contribute to McKinney's run for the DemocRAT Senate nomination in 2004. If she won the nomination, it would stimulate a very healthy Republican turnout.
2 posted on 08/30/2002 12:14:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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I think I'll contribute to McKinney's run for the DemocRAT Senate nomination in 2004. If she won the nomination, it would stimulate a very healthy Republican turnout.

That's good thinking. Set yourself up against a lightning rod from the other side.

3 posted on 08/30/2002 12:18:12 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: aculeus
she would provide the Democratic party with an image it doesn't need and provide Georgia and the nation generally with the spectacle of a politics they can do quite nicely without.

Oh, I don't know about that; I think such a spectacle would be enlightening and salutary for the body politic and the public weal.

4 posted on 08/30/2002 12:55:04 PM PDT by Salvey
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In the end, I think the McKinney loss helps Republicans when it comes to redistricting. Lately, the RATS have tried to move black voters out of majority black districts to other marginal RAT districts.

If you're an incumbant black, there is no way you are going to allow that to happen without a fight after watching what happened to Hilliard and McKinney.

Good news for us. Helps keep the RATS bunched together in the same district.

5 posted on 08/30/2002 1:03:07 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: rdb3
She lost primarily because she took on GW & 9-11. All hell broke out then. You see we can't have a dialoge on 9-11 about who knew what & when. Have you heard anymore on the enormose shorts the day before in AA stocks? Or how was it that Payne Stewart's plane was scrambeled in minutes but these 9-11 planes flew all over & no escorts reached them. Or why 8 of the alleged hijackers are alive & how everything was known about them minutes afterwards. (Now I am NOT promoting this women) What I am saying is she crossed this imperial president & suffered the consequences. BTW, do you ever question the prominent bills in Congress are voted on w/o the whole bill presented - just a snyopsis.
6 posted on 08/30/2002 1:07:58 PM PDT by Digger
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To: aculeus; RobFromGa; AntiJen; Guillermo; viligantcitizen; Phoenix44; "Be not afraid!"; dansangel; ...
But how many crossovers were there?

At the low end, 15,000 or so, and probably closer to 20,000. There were probably 12,000 in the north part of the District alone, between Dunwoody / North DeKalb (the precincts reported in the Dunwoody Crier this week), plus the 5 Gwinnett precincts.

Regarding a Senate race, as I've said before, Run, Cyndy, Run!

McKinney pings all around.

7 posted on 08/30/2002 1:25:22 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: aculeus
It's also good for the country. It's evidence that we are getting beyond the time when we have a black politics separate from the politics of the rest of the country. Ethnic origins will still count for something, as they always have in America, but ethnicity will be a factor that can be trumped by other things. Black politicians will now see that they have a political incentive not to move left and toward racial appeals, away from the rest of the electorate, but to move to the center and to try to appeal to a majority made up of voters of all backgrounds.

This is exactly why there are no black senators. Leftists will tell you because of racism, but thats a lie. Most black candidates come from majority black districts and have drifted far left because it was safe to do so. However, the consequences are that average Americans see their extremist views as unacceptable and therefore leftist black candidates can't win statewide.

9 posted on 08/30/2002 1:48:40 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Digger
Dialogue and wild slander are not the same thing. Get help.
11 posted on 08/30/2002 1:53:41 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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Or how was it that Payne Stewart's plane was scrambeled in minutes but these 9-11 planes flew all over & no escorts reached them. Or why 8 of the alleged hijackers are alive & how everything was known about them minutes afterwards.

I have heard that you have a serious chemical deficiency, however.

12 posted on 08/30/2002 1:56:07 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: aculeus
I think the unexamined truth is, that a black candidate who uses too many "y"s in her name, like an upper-class country-clubber's brat, is politically doomed.

She should have changed her name to "Winnie" and worn a dashiki during the entire campaign.

13 posted on 08/30/2002 1:58:06 PM PDT by Illbay
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[TIN FOIL ALERT! TIN FOIL ALERT!]
14 posted on 08/30/2002 1:59:05 PM PDT by mhking
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Black conservative ping

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Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

15 posted on 08/30/2002 1:59:32 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Paleo Conservative
Miller would obviously clobber McKinney in a primary, but she could conceivably finish first in a multicandidate primary. She would lose the runoff, of course. But in the meantime she would provide the Democratic party with an image it doesn't need and provide Georgia and the nation generally with the spectacle of a politics they can do quite nicely without.

Please, please, Cindy, run.

You will help destroy the already fragmented Dimbulb party. If you run with the same brainless, idiotic, radical, "I love islam" crap again, and with the "help" of your equally idiot father, it is an absolute guarantee that the few dimbulbrats that can count to twenty without taking off their shoes, will most certainly avoid you like the plague you are.

Talk about a "crossover", hey, I haven't talked to anyone in the district, dimbulb or republican, that would admit to voting for you. Even the ones that did "crossover" do everything they can to avoid the stigma of having admitted that they voted for you.

You're a has-been, Jihad Cindy. Take your allahdamned dumb butt somewhere else and spew your race-baiting rhetoric.

16 posted on 08/30/2002 2:17:28 PM PDT by OldSmaj
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See ya.
17 posted on 08/30/2002 2:33:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: aculeus
Some of Barone's numbers are off (for example the 60% figure of black voters in the Dem primary is too high; I estimate it at 53%), but his larger point remains. A substantial percentage of blacks voted for Majette. I estimate the percentage at 30%, and Barone at 33%.
18 posted on 08/30/2002 2:46:02 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Jim Robinson
That looks pretty final. ;-)
19 posted on 08/30/2002 2:46:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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My estimate is 21,500 crossovers. We know only 6,000 voted in the GOP primary, and I estimate that about 25% of the voters are behavioral Republicans. If it is 29% as Barone said based on the Bush vote (I think that is too high, because some white Democrats in the South voted for Bush), then the number of crossovers is higher.
20 posted on 08/30/2002 2:48:42 PM PDT by Torie
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