Computer Connectivity and Putting 40 Something’s in Jail for Stuff they did in there 20s

Me ^ | Friday, August 30, 2002 | FoxPro

[spartan68]

This nation has become a nation of list,blacklist and lets try to pin a felony on the guy so he can't own a gun and after the recent K-mart shenanigans ,it's more like,get as many as you can into the database so we can track them.

Glad to see someone else has caught on to the game...
Get one here get one there, we'll all get our turn to be
a convicted felon sooner or later...
Insta check names stay in the 'puter forever! any one who
believes otherwise is a fool!

[SkyRat]

I live in europe and I'm often in amsterdam. that city seems to be a refuge point for american citzens with police trouble these days.

[eastforker]

Again,as I said before,you got it nailed down.This is how the "system"works.

[balrog666]

Let's make it simple.

1) Don't go to Ohio. Ever.
2) Don't get a new drivers license (keep and use the old number - and memorize so you have a reason not to carry it).
3) If stopped, claim it's in your glove compartment and then that's it stolen when it's not there. Or carry a money clip, a credit card, and no wallet.

Sleep like a baby and ignore them until they come after you (probably never).

[FoxPro]

I punched a guy 15 years ago. People used to punch me all the time, I never filed charges (15 years ago).

Yes I stuck a piece of fruit in my pocket (13 years ago).

Yes, I drove drunk (5 years ago).

A month in jail, FOR WHAT PURPOSE!

I am guilty as charged. Off with my head!

[eastforker]

I caught on a long time ago,no one else seemed to listen,as long as it wasn't them.

[July 4th]

Get a lawyer who is a member of the Ohio bar.

Don't just get a member of the Ohio bar. You need to get a lawyer who is known in the courtroom where your proceedings will be held, be it a public defender or a private criminal lawyer who does work in that city.

Very often, knowing the judge and the prosecutor is only way out of certain things that would normally be a somewhat serious offense.

Case in point: Where I'm from, if you're caught with a small amount of marijuana and hire some hot-shot attorney, your offense will be charged as a state misdemeanor, and you'll get a criminal record. If you use the services of a PD or local attorney, they know that they can ask for a reduction to a simple municipal forfeiture and the judge will accept it. Pay the fine, no record, and only arrived at by knowing the system. (note, I'm a law student, not someone who's needed to deal with a marijuana offense... :)

[A CA Guy]

You lead the reverse of a charmed life.

[July 4th]

I live in europe and I'm often in amsterdam. that city seems to be a refuge point for american citzens with police trouble these days.

If American citizens with police trouble were the only problem in Amsterdam, I'd enjoy living there myself. The Muslims, Haitians, and other assorted legal and illegal immigrants seem to be contributing most to their problems... ("The Netherlands is full." - Pim Fortuyn.)

[gunshy]

The first thing that I noticed about your post is that you apparantly are not willing to accept the responsibility for your irresponsible acts. The only suggestion I have for you now is to leave the country, sneak back in and apply for a new drivers license as an alien. From what I understand, they don't do any background checks on illegals.

[ijcr]

4 million adults are on parole or probation in the U.S.
250,000 will cross state lines this year.


Probation is a form of criminal sanction, imposed by a court on an offender in lieu of incarceration, which allows the offender to serve the sentence under supervision in the community.


It is often referred to as "Community Corrections." Since it is not feasible either socially or economically to imprison all offenders, probation provides a cost effective alternative for offender management.



The Probation Department assists the court not only by helping to identify suitable candidates for probation, but also by recommending appropriate sanctions to be imposed, including time in custody, fines, restitution, and community service.


The department also helps identify those persons who are poor risks for probation by providing information to the court to justify their removal from the community.

Probation is premised upon the following beliefs:

Society has a right to be protected from persons who cause its members harm, regardless of the reasons for such harm. It is the right of every citizen to be free from fear of harm to person and property. Belief in the necessity of law to an orderly society demands commitment to support it. Probation accepts this responsibility and views itself as an instrument for both control and treatment appropriate to some, but not all, offenders. The wise use of authority derived from law adds strength and stability to its efforts.



Under the Interstate Compact (1937) you can request to serve your time in another state as long as you meet the standards set by the recieving state.

[eastforker]

All youngsters,listen up,after graduating high school,go to the local PD and sign up to be an Auxillary policeman.Upon finishing the accadamy you will be an LEO,you won't get paid for it but you will be entitled to speed,go through checkpoints unchecked,be driven home if you are stopped when drunk and maybe itimidate some girl to give you sex just by showing your badge.Life can be grand.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

it is not feasible either socially or economically to imprison all offenders.

Gee, wonder why?

• According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports Division's Annual Report, "Crime in the United States," there were 695,201 marijuana arrests in 1997.
• The total number of arrests in 1997, as reported by the FBI, for all violent crimes - murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault - combined was not much higher, at 717,720.

[A CA Guy]

Intimidate some girl into sex!!! What the hell kind of statement is that to make?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

To: eastforker Intimidate some girl into sex!!! What the hell kind of statement is that to make? 54 posted on 8/30/02 6:19 PM Pacific by A CA Guy

Well, watch the movie Bad Lieutenant.

Eastforker is simply making the point that if you want to live the life of a Bully and a Social Reprobate, it'll be a lot easier if you first take the time to become an Auxilliary Policeman. LEO -- Safe behind the Thin Blue Line....

[eastforker]

Well,here in houston it has been reported many times of LEO's pulling over young girls for speeding and asking for sex in exchange for not issuing a ticket.This is not new.

[I Hired Craig Livingstone]

My advice, FWIW:

1) Don't post here, call a lawyer.

2) If you do do any time, it will be short (as you say, a month or less). It will be in a county jail. I know people who have done time in county jails, and as long as you're cool, the worst you will be subjected to is crappy food and too much Jerry Springer.

3) You got yourself into this mess. Go face the music and get it behind you.

[Poohbah]

Don't wanta fight with you,not everyone understands what he is being told and what the cosequenses are.

Like I said, PAY ATTENTION WHEN THE GUY IN THE BLACK ROBES IS TALKING TO YOU.

Good grief, that isn't rocket science!

MY point,did the judge tell foxpro that if he went back to his home state and got a duplicate license that he would be commiting a criminal act?

Every state DMV asks if your license ever been seized, suspended, or revoked, in any state, right on their application form. So FoxPro also LIED on the application--and thus bought himself more trouble.

Maybe FoxPro should petition to be made an incompetent ward of the court.

[Revolting cat!]

FoxPro, try this joke on Dear Abby, or on her sister - they occasionally fall for these kinds of fratboy put ons (as does, unfortunately, a lot of my fellow FReepers. Oy!)

[pittsburgh gop guy]

Ok - 2 things.

1. Consider life as a fugitive. It could be fun assuming a fake identity and going on the lam - always trying to be one step ahead of the law. And I don't think they will feature you on AMERICA'S MOST WANTED - so see how long you can last as JOHN JONES. Invent the past that you never really had. Hey - maybe take the wife - maybe not. Do you really like her? Yeah - you probably love her - but do you still like her? It could be fun to dump the life you have and assume a new one. Become a logger, or work on an oil rig - think about what you might always have wanted to do but couldn't because of the obligations society placed on you. Maybe even become an alcoholic and get in real bar fights and such.

OR

2. Get the best lawyer you can afford that has experience in that venue. Yeah - probably pay $200 an hour or something like that - but if #1 above does not sound appealling and neither does spending some time in the pokey - a good lawyer is what you need.