Skip to comments.The Bible vs. The Quran
Posted on 08/31/2002 5:30:20 AM PDT by vance
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You:" Okay, this is where I stopped reading. This statement is absolutely false. Next contestant please."
Hate to rain on your one person parade but ... back you your ridiculous statment.
Have a wonderful weekend too!
"Each requires faith, not reason, to be accepted by the respective believers. Arguing over which one is 'right' seems difficult."
Faith and reason go hand in hand when it comes to the Bible. This is not so with the koran. Again contrary to your who is "right" ... it is the Bible that is right. If you'd read it, you'd know that to be true. Those who know the Bible as being "right" don't have the difficulty of seeing where the koran is wrong, contradictory and illogical. It's just another blessing from being familiar with the Word of God. BTW, God isn't relative either. Right and wrong are clearly written about.
I like this verse on reasoning:
 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
What the Lord is saying is that believing in Him and His teachings is not unreasonable and neither is faith in Him.
OK, let's do that. Seti was a great pharaoh (and therefore a god) and the father of a greater one. He built temples all over Egypt (most notably at Abydos and Luxor). His name and deeds are written on stone, plaster and papyrus in copious amounts. And if you would like to meet him, his mummy currently resides in the Cairo Museum.
If you are interested in checking out the Ancient Egyptian religion (which was an active religion for twice the length of time Christanity has been around) in its modern manifestation you can go to: http://www.netjer.org/home/. I'm not a believer but I find this group amusing.
The largest, yes, but far less than half and, therefore, fewer people believe in Christ than don't. Got it? Or should I go through it one more time? I know, here's the numbers:
Christianity: 2 billion
Islam: 1.3 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 850 million
Buddhism: 360 million
Chinese traditional religion: 225 million
primal-indigenous: 150 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 95 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 14 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 6 million
Jainism: 4 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 3 million
Tenrikyo: 2.4 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 700 thousand
Scientology: 600 thousand
Zoroastrianism: 150 thousand
So for 40 years several million people wandered around the desert, leaving no trace, although traces of older and smaller groups of travelers are common.
Then Joshua takes over and utterly destroys the major cities of Canaan. Oops! Most of these cities have been identified and dug and there are no destruction layers where there ought to be. Several weren't founded until centuries later. How do the Believers explain this? Hoffmeier, who is a Believer and an expert thinks all those stories about destroyed cities were just typical bragging, not to be taken seriously.
OK, but David and Solomon--they are real enough, right? Sorry, Charley. In all the thousands of tablets comprising the diplomatic correspondence of the kings of numerous cities, the names of David and Solomon do not occur. (Now before someone races in to tell me about the Tell Dan inscription which says "bit dwd" on it, which can mean House of David among other things please go to the following:
This will put you in touch with a very serious scholar who is charging that the Tell Dan inscription is a forgery.
Jesus may not have built any temples, but He built a kingdom in the hearts of men that has changed History forever. The works of Seti are of historical interest only, save the tiny group you reference.
I'll admit You can't find the body of Jesus anywhere. That is not because He didn't exist, its because He STILL exists. We have proof Seti is not an actual God, it rests, as you say, in the Cario museum. We have no such proof concerning Jesus even though it was in the interests of the authorities of the day to take steps to ensure the body of Jesus was available as a museum piece.
As far as the dates not matching, I think the scholars are off by about 2-3 centuries because the Egyptian king lists have some folks in there that were not kings. If they go a little earlier, the archeology is a much better, though admittatdly not perfect, match.
The cities founded centuries later were most likely re-establishments of the original destroyed cities.
As far as the lack of official documents of the Exodus, people were probably busy cleaning up after the disaster. BESIDES, GOVERNMENTS record their victories, not their humiliations at the hands of slaves.
How many records would they find in Iraq 2,000 years from now of the American's victory in desert storm? If there is any mention at all, it will be of THEIR great victory over us!!! Technology has changed, but I think we can both agree that the mindset of absolute dictatorships does not!!
No holds barred (as Islam has made readily apparent), best of 3 falls, no quarter given nor asked.
Coming to a theater (of war) near you very soon.
If Bill Clinton is any example, Muhammad, or indeed any person, could also say that if he just made it up off the top of his head. Which he may have had to- how many languages could he read, even if he had found manuscripts?
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