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To: vance
I don't want to offend anybody and I speak only for myself but they're both just books written by people. The only versions most of us can read are translations of translations of translations. Maybe they were inspired maybe they weren't. There is wisdom and nonsense in both. To think that all one has to do or know in life is contained in one book is hopeful at best.

The Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandments are possibly the best the Bible has to offer, the detailed rules and practices laid down in Leviticus are just strange. The Koran is similarly detailed in it's rulings reminding one of the FASB rules for accounting.

Flame away if you feel threatened but it seems to me that there is more one has to do for spiritual development than read one book, IMHO.

15 posted on 08/31/2002 6:38:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: muir_redwoods
I'm not feeling threatened just a little shocked at your claim of "translation after translation", when the evidence is before your face that the translations are accurate and can be backed up with ancient documents dating from 40 years from the ressurection of Christ. I find your logic odd.
29 posted on 08/31/2002 11:44:13 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: muir_redwoods
I don't want to offend anybody and I speak only for myself but they're both just books written by people.

Two small points:

1. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

2 Timothy 3:16

2. Throughout His Word, Jesus Christ spoke often of hell and the fact that unsaved, unredeemed men would face an eternity in damnation. Mankind would never write a book condeming himself to hell.

The Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandments are possibly the best the Bible has to offer...

Actually the entire Word of God is precious and priceless; giving guidance and answers to everything from finances to marriage to child rearing. However, the best that the Bible "has to offer" is the message of salvation; the good news that we as fallen, damned sinners do not have to spend eternity separated from God. There is a way out of the punishment that we deserve and will receive apart from our trusting Christ and accepting His sacrifice on the Cross in our stead for our sins.

Without that message, nothing else matters. Nothing.

34 posted on 08/31/2002 12:31:16 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: muir_redwoods
"the detailed rules and practices laid down in Leviticus are just strange"

Leviticus is primarily a system of priestly rules and regulations given to adherents of the law of Moses. (Except chapter 10 which details God's displeasure with men who presume to alter God's pattern of worship.)

With the coming of the law of Christ, the law of Moses was abolished.


Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Leviticus, as with the rest of the Old Law, has been done away. Its value is now historical.

That's how we "rightly divide the word." (II Tim. 2:15)


102 posted on 08/31/2002 8:47:08 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: muir_redwoods
Regarding the Bible:

The only versions most of us can read are translations of translations of translations.

Hmm. I hear this every once in a while. Either you've heard this from somebody else or you haven't looked into the issue yourself. Nothing wrong with that as we're all in different places in life. In fact I probably held the position you state above at one point in time. The translations we have today are the result of a single translation - the original language into English. Different parts of the Bible were written in three different languages, each one translated into English in one step:

Hope that helps.
107 posted on 08/31/2002 9:06:05 PM PDT by scripter
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