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Bitter Truth For Black Politicians In McKinney Defeat
The Black World Today.com ^ | 8/26/2002 | Earl Ofari Hutchinson

Posted on 08/31/2002 5:57:23 AM PDT by vance

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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Black leaders should now be focusing on how they can improve their own peoples'problems of undereducation, out-of-wedlock births and continued crime.

I feel ya, but don't believe the "leader" hype. The conservative message doesn't work with a leader. It's an individual thang.

Blacks don't need leaders. Treat us like you would a white person.

21 posted on 08/31/2002 7:15:34 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: vance
These are the bread and butter issues that black voters want and demand that their elected officials pay attention to. And they are getting more conservative. A recent poll by Black America's Political Action Committee, a Washington D.C. based political advocacy group, found that more blacks than ever say that President Bush is doing a good job. But even more ominous for black Democrats, a near majority of blacks lambasted the Democrats for taking them for granted.

I've interviewed Dr. Hutchinson several times over the last ten years - and while I find that some of the time that I don't agree with his views, I have found that much of the time, he is unaffected by the perpetual vicitm mentality that many are afflicted with.

He's right on target here. No whitewashing; no hints of "playing the victim card," just on the money.

22 posted on 08/31/2002 7:20:28 AM PDT by mhking
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23 posted on 08/31/2002 7:21:03 AM PDT by mhking
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To: vance
This author gives black voters MUCH more credit than they deserve. McKinney was a jerk and many, many white voters did vote against her. But, in November, while fewer newspapers and media will mention it, about 95% of all black voters will vote for democrats and a slightly larger number will vote for black democrat candidates.

Should whites support whites by such margins, they screams of racism would be heard by McKinney's Palestinian friends.

It is ironic that the crossover vote in Georgia beat McKinny just as the crossover vote in Michingan, engineered by their black congressman using well organized labor operatives, got McCain nominated on the Republican ticket in 2000.

Watch the black vote in Texas, for example. Almost 100%, statewide, will got to Ron Kirk, the crooked mayor of crooked Dallas, who is black, because, well, he is black.

24 posted on 08/31/2002 7:27:51 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: vance
Finally something from the "black community" not blaiming all of their problems on "The white man". Refreshing change.
25 posted on 08/31/2002 7:33:40 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: Tacis
But, in November, while fewer newspapers and media will mention it, about 95% of all black voters will vote for democrats and a slightly larger number will vote for black democrat candidates.

Check your percentages - there are more who vote differently than you would think. The breakout on those who think about what they are doing (i.e., not just vote yellow dog Dem or only for black candidates) is probably closer to half of the black electorate on the whole. (especially when you look at the BAMPAC poll)

You can't generalize! You can't lump all blacks into your convenient little pile. That's been a major failing of the GOP for more than a generation.

26 posted on 08/31/2002 7:40:17 AM PDT by mhking
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To: vance
...the near pandemic of HIV/AIDS that has taken a massive toll on middle-class and poor blacks.....

Middle class black AIDS pandemic? I would like to see the source for this claim. At least in the USA, I doubt it. I thought AIDS in the black population was concenterated in lower classes where IV drug use is responsible for the spread.

I am glad to see a rational piece discussing apparent trends away from the dogmatic acceptance of the democRat party line.

27 posted on 08/31/2002 7:43:39 AM PDT by bert
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To: DB
The author seems to forget the person who won is also black. So a black politician won. Hardly gloom and doom for black politicians...

Take a look again - he's talking about traditional black politicians (i.e., liberal, Democratic black politicans). And this DOES spell a change in the black electorate - there are more conservative blacks emerging and asserting themselves overall.

And that fact does hurt the traditional black political power structure - badly.

28 posted on 08/31/2002 7:45:47 AM PDT by mhking
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To: grlfrnd
Look at Oakland though. What a craphole. A hotbed of anti americanism.
29 posted on 08/31/2002 7:48:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Why hasn't affirmative action worked?

Don't let them fool you - AA has worked; just not the way they would have you believe it should.

AA is not perfect - but it opened many doors that were shut previously. More recently, it has been corrupted - badly. Many of the so-called black leadership have misused it to make sure their buddies get what they want - witness Jesse Jackson and bullying Budweiser into giving his sons a distributorship under the guise of "affirmative action."

The system is broken and needs to be fixed. Leveling the table doesn't mean tilting it entirely in the opposite direction. I don't have all the answers - but I do know that by getting away from the traditional black liberal power structure that we are on the right path.

30 posted on 08/31/2002 7:50:19 AM PDT by mhking
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To: vance
bump
31 posted on 08/31/2002 7:51:12 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rdb3
But what are conservatives going to do to go after these voters?

Present the same message we present to ALL voters: that government is not the solution; government is the problem. That we'll spend millions for opportunity, but not one dime for soul-robbing entitlements. That morality is the key to enfranchisement in the American Experiment, not dependency. And that blacks can join the mainstream any time they want to, with the full backing and support of the Right, as long as no preferences are given.

The Right does not have a good record on taking its message to black people.

The Right's message is swallowed up in the wail from the hard Left and its largesse-spewing pimps. It's not easy to sell the idea of personal accountability in the 'hood after the Democrats have spent half a century nurturing a culture of dependency. With the media painting any Right-leaning proposals as abject racism, and with many influential black parasites approving that characterization, the Right has a Herculean task before it. The 'hood is a hostile place to the Right.

Growing up, I never saw anyone but a RAT come through the 'hood during election time.

Yet you managed to find the True Way. The information is out there; the message is sent. I agree we have to do a better job of pushing it, but we can't preach to deaf ears. And I don't know sign language.

32 posted on 08/31/2002 7:52:02 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rdb3
Allow me to correct your statement: Blacks don't need leaders. Treat us like you would a white any other person.
33 posted on 08/31/2002 7:53:29 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Joe Boucher
Look at Oakland though. What a craphole. A hotbed of anti americanism.

Yes - let's look at Oakland. Oakland NAACP head (and CA state GOP Secretary) Shannon Reeves put up a pretty decent showing against Jerry Brown in the last mayoral race - this in a town that is more than 70% black. There are inroads being made. As for the "anti-americans" (as you put it), I think you must be mistaking it for Berkeley, just next door.

34 posted on 08/31/2002 7:56:51 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
You're right. That was my point.

I've been up all night. I can't think straight all the time. Sheesh!

;-)

35 posted on 08/31/2002 7:59:28 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: IronJack
Present the same message we present to ALL voters: that government is not the solution; government is the problem.

That sounds great - but how do you get the message to black voters? I don't see any press in the outlets that blacks view/read/listen to; I don't see any concerted work to go talk to blacks. The impression I get is "Here's the message; they've got to come to us to get it."

While the Dems are out there face-to-face; advertising on black radio; talking to black media. Face it, even though we talk about how the mainstream is where we should concentrate, if we ignore the media that the people we are trying to reach patronize, then the message remains unheard.

36 posted on 08/31/2002 8:04:08 AM PDT by mhking
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To: vance
the bitter truth that more and more blacks are rejecting old-style narrow race based politics.

Yeah right
That's why Gore got 95% of the black vote
37 posted on 08/31/2002 8:08:51 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: mhking
if we ignore the media that the people we are trying to reach patronize, then the message remains unheard.

And if we patronize the media of the target audience, the message still remains unheard, but the Left-wing media make huge bucks off our misfortune.

Yes, we can take the message to the target, but the target has to meet us halfway. We should not have to go begging for people to do the right thing, the thing that will ultimately evolve to their benefit anyway.

I don't disagree with a program of outreach to blacks and other minorities, even to demographics that have traditionally voted as Democratic blocs. But the message has to come from a credible spokesman, and conservative blacks have been effectively discredited in favor of race shills and hucksters like The Revs, Julian Bond, and Kwesi Mfume.

Let me turn the tables. How would you propose we sell our message of "tough love" in the 'hood?

38 posted on 08/31/2002 8:11:24 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: bert
Speaking as a middle class black person I have to ask what AIDS pandemic in the black middle classes Hutchinson is talking aobut. I STILL don't personally know anyone who has died of AIDS and I'm not living a cloistered life by any means.
39 posted on 08/31/2002 8:13:54 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: IronJack; mhking
Present the same message we present to ALL voters: that government is not the solution; government is the problem. That we'll spend millions for opportunity, but not one dime for soul-robbing entitlements. That morality is the key to enfranchisement in the American Experiment, not dependency. And that blacks can join the mainstream any time they want to, with the full backing and support of the Right, as long as no preferences are given.

Right! And take just this message straight to the belly of the beast. Undiluted. Pure. Hopeful. Put it on BET, urban radio stations, billboards in the 'hood, you name it. Take the fight to them for a change. In politics, as in virtually every other place in life, victory is on the side of the aggressor.

The Right's message is swallowed up in the wail from the hard Left and its largesse-spewing pimps. It's not easy to sell the idea of personal accountability in the 'hood after the Democrats have spent half a century nurturing a culture of dependency. With the media painting any Right-leaning proposals as abject racism, and with many influential black parasites approving that characterization, the Right has a Herculean task before it. The 'hood is a hostile place to the Right.

And just who is at fault for this? THE RIGHT. The Left paints a portrait of the Right as being mean-spirited, vile, racist, and if it could, would send blacks back into chains at best or towards Africa at worst. What's the Right's response to all of this? Not one word. Therefore, if one side paints you this way, and you don't stand up for yourself, how do you think the target audience is going to view you? Take the advice of Horowitz here: don't blame the media.

Yet you managed to find the True Way. The information is out there; the message is sent. I agree we have to do a better job of pushing it, but we can't preach to deaf ears. And I don't know sign language.

Yes, the info is indeed out there. But don't look at me as a good example of going Left-to-Right. My experience was... different.

Nevertheless, as the author has laid out for us quite correctly, the ears of black folks are not closed. They're open. Now, what is the Right going to put into those listening ears?

Take the fight to the face of the Left! Pimp-slap them for a change. Pistol-whip them for once. Tapdance on their heads for a change.

Like Nike said, "Just do it." What have you to lose? IF blacks voted for Gore over Bush 9-1 (although I have yet to see concrete evidence to back this up, only innuendo and "conventional wisdom" which both ain't conventional and seldomly wise), you have nothing to lose and all to gain.

Look at it this way. The black vote is the most powerful vote segment in this nation. If the Right can tilt this vote 4 Right, 6 Left, the Left is DOOMED.

Think about it. It's a worthy goal to pursue.

40 posted on 08/31/2002 8:14:44 AM PDT by rdb3
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