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Carnahan's presence at skeet shoot has the appearance of politics
The Kansas City Star ^ | Saturday, August 31, 2002 | DAVID GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 08/31/2002 7:07:12 AM PDT by TroutStalker

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To: Paleo Conservative
Well let's see:

1. Always keep the muzzle pointed in safe direction.

Looks like he has it pointed at some very dense material. So far so good.

2. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

Okay

3. Keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.

Mag is out, but I can't tell if the bolt is open. I will give him a pass on this one.

For Algore, I would give him three for three.

21 posted on 08/31/2002 8:06:40 AM PDT by FSPress
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To: TroutStalker
This is a typical Democrat tactic. Commit a public fraud designed to deceive the voters, and count on the press to spread the word. Jean Carnahan is stupid on gun control. (Of course, her grasp of other subjects doesn't win any prizes, either.)

Since the race is so tight, we have to count on Talent's voters being more committed and therefore turning out in larger numbers.

Count on the dynamics of the Senate elections to be affected by the results from New Jersey. The whole argument of Robert ("the Un-Bribed") Torricelli is, "I may be a bum, but if you don't vote for me the evil Republicans will take over the Senate." I've been following the New Jersey numbers in the last week that show Forrester with a significant lead over Torricelli. And I was in touch this morning with a longtime friend who is a key advisor to Forrester.

Bottom line, through Drudge and the Internet, it will be known early in the afternoon that Torricelli has gone down in flames. That news will take the wind out of the sails of all the weaker Democrat candidates in Missouri, Minnesota and South Dakota. And it will strengthen the hand of Wayne Allard, who is the weakest Republican candidate.

In short, it will be known as soon as the Torch has flamed out, that Li'l Tommy Daschle is finished as Bolshevik (Russian for "Majority") Leader of the Senate. Then in all the other Senate races voters will be free to vote on the merits of the candidates, rather than "accept a flawed Democrat to ward off the evil Republicans." That means good news for the Republicans across the board.

Then the next problem is to get Trent ("Notta") Lott outta there as Majority Leader. As I've written before, he has the cajones of a gelded flea. That jockeying for position will take place between November and January. No reason to fight over a bone until the bone is real. (Though I'm sure some background work has already been done by the likes of Nichols.)

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22 posted on 08/31/2002 8:07:37 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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Since the race is so tight, we have to count on Talent's voters being more committed and therefore turning out in larger numbers.

The turning point in so many elections. Who are the motivaterd voters? Who will cast their vote?

After all the mud has been thrown, who will have a reply, when the inevitable comment is made, "One is as bad as the rest...?"

23 posted on 08/31/2002 8:40:17 AM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Non-Sequitur
The appearance with a shotgun is a ploy to re-assure sportsmen and women that our hunting guns will be safe under gun control. Now I also notice Carnahan is not target practicing a 30-06 or a 243 or an sks semi automatic. Also known as hunting guns. She is not packing a Colt 45 or a 357. Those are the firearms the Million Moron March want to disappear first. These are the firearms the Brady Bunch want only on the hands of law enforcement. She is in their camp clearly, on their payroll, taking campaign contributions from them. How can we even have an inkling of trust for a Senator who only stands with those who's overall objective is to undermine the Constitution of The United States? Talent for Senate!
24 posted on 08/31/2002 8:43:19 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44; dd5339; TroutStalker
Hey, let's BAN CARNAHAN! Jim Talent for Senate!
25 posted on 08/31/2002 8:58:55 AM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: TroutStalker
That year at a gun control rally in St. Louis, Jean Carnahan said: "We are not a bunch of gun-hating zealots who want to take guns away from responsible, law-abiding sportsmen.

It's been said before, on FR.

Do you REALLY think the drafters of the Constitution had skeet shooting in mind when they wrote the second amendment? Otherwise, wouldn't they have said, "The right of the people to 'skeet shoot' would not be infringed?"

26 posted on 08/31/2002 9:07:46 AM PDT by I still care
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To: TroutStalker
"I am not opposed to sportsmen using guns," Carnahan said.

How sweet of her!

Let's do the necessary parse of her statement, shall we, just like we always have to do with anything a Democrat says?

1. She says nothing about what the 2nd Amendment says. Last I checked, it didn't mention "hunters", only "the people".
2. "Using" guns is not the same as "owning" guns, much less keeping them unrestricted and unlicensed in one's home.
3. No mention here of the use of guns for "self-defense", of course, whether in the home or on the street.
4. No mention of concealed carry.
5. No mention of the rights of others besides hunters (no doubt properly "certified" and "licensed") being able to own or even use guns. Of course, we all know who does the certifying and licensing!

I could go on, but we all get the idea. She sounds just like Schmuck Schumer. Didn't we see that silly picture of him shooting a TEC-9? I'm surprised the article did not show her breaking clays with steely-eyed gaze!

Her past performance far outweighs her phony, gossamer words. She is an anti-2nd Amendment zealot, much less a dangerous lightweight. Like any politican who knows a losing argument shen she sees one, she is cleverly trying to hide her true postion in the hopes nobody is paying attention to what she really means.

The Widder Carnahan is a "loser" in all senses of the word. The voters of Missouri need to show her the door and let her go back to the farm where she can continue to carry on her nasty anti-Constitutional agendas in well deserved solitude instead of on the public dime!

27 posted on 08/31/2002 10:43:54 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: TroutStalker
This STINKS of "BeelzeBubba's" Duck-Hunting Stunt!I Just Re-Read THE SECOND AMENDMENT.I Still Can't Find(For Sporting-Purposes)!!Where Is That Part??
28 posted on 08/31/2002 12:14:52 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Gritty
You will notice the term "hunter" is not used in her remarks, just "sportsman". Shooting skeet is not killing anything either.
29 posted on 08/31/2002 12:50:39 PM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker
As I've said before, democrats don't oppose owning guns, they just oppose YOU owning guns. As long as the powerfull and rich and them can have firearms, the world is nice, but god forbid regular people own them, whoa, all hell breaks loose.
30 posted on 08/31/2002 1:35:05 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: TroutStalker
I am NOT a sportswoman, I am a gunowner that owns one, becuase I have the right, and always hope to never have to use one to protect myself! Jean needs to learn that sportsmanship has nothing to do with the Constitution!
31 posted on 08/31/2002 5:12:01 PM PDT by D. Miles
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To: D. Miles
Latest polls show a neck and neck race with Talent only ahead by about 2 points (within the margin of error).
Zogby poll shows her weakest area is men. This is nothing but a political stunt. To get elected she'd shoot Sara Brady if necessary
32 posted on 08/31/2002 5:18:28 PM PDT by phil1750
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To: john in missouri
Now dont get me wrong, I hate Algore...but there isnt a cartridge in the rifle. Still funny though
33 posted on 08/31/2002 5:52:50 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: phil1750
No, she needs that Brady vote! Although, she might shove her in a closet if she thought Brady was costing her votes! She is handled by the same people who handled her husband.... she is as always, simply doing what she is told!

This woman has never had an original thought in her lifetime!!!!! Men don't like robot women, and they certainly aren't going to vote for one riding her dead husband's coattails!

34 posted on 08/31/2002 6:42:36 PM PDT by D. Miles
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To: TroutStalker
Does People For The Ethical Treatment Of Skeets know about this?
35 posted on 08/31/2002 8:25:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I don't hate Al Gore. I just think he should take up a new career where he won't be a danger to the public at large -- like producing & selling those calendars you see with a picture of a different cat every month.
36 posted on 08/31/2002 8:31:28 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
If that appeared to be a non-sequitur, it was. I somehow posted to the wrong thread.
37 posted on 08/31/2002 8:32:20 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
Ah, no I didn't. As Roseann Rosannadanna says...

"Never mind."

38 posted on 08/31/2002 8:33:09 PM PDT by john in missouri
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