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North Little Rock, AR cops stand by and watch as convenience store is robbed!
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | 31 AUG 02 | BY JIM BROOKS

Posted on 08/31/2002 9:15:32 AM PDT by DCBryan1

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Doesn't it give liberals a warm fuzzy feeling that cops are there to protect you? <./.sarcasm off>

THIS IS ONE REASON I ALWAYS CARRY A GUN.

Be sure to send this article to your friends who believe that the Police WILL be there to protect you!

Stay safe, be armed!

DCBryan1

1 posted on 08/31/2002 9:15:32 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1; Sir Gawain
PING!

HERE IS A "THE POLICE WON'T/CAN'T PROTECT YOU" +
SELF-DEFENSE IS UP TO YOU BANG!

2 posted on 08/31/2002 9:17:16 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1
I say we FREEP E-Z Mart...what a bunch of self-serving, number-crunching, inconsiderate a$$holes these two people are!

Anyone want to join me?

3 posted on 08/31/2002 9:18:52 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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Sounds like Mr Black was used as Bait...........SOP at my old department would have replaced that clerk with a cop if they knew/suspected ahead of time.

These POS LEO's staked out that clerk like a lamb with a wait and see attitude.

Stay Safe DC !

4 posted on 08/31/2002 9:24:53 AM PDT by Squantos
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<< "A lot of times, you make the decision to allow the person to leave before trying to 'make an apprehension,'" he said. >>

Specially when there are armed madmen shooting up schools [Columbine, say] and murdering children and their teachers.

Better to wait until the killin' stops and all the chullduhrunn that're gunna be killed, be already killed, before riskin' the lives of any brave pleece uffuhcahs.

Eh?
5 posted on 08/31/2002 9:32:31 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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QUOTE "A lot of times, you make the decision to allow the person to leave before trying to make an apprehension," he said. "I can say that as a matter of policy... the safety of the public is our primary concern."

Umm "public is our primary concern" GUESS NOT

6 posted on 08/31/2002 9:36:09 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: DCBryan1
This is outragous!

Why didn't they substitute an armed officer in a bullet proof vest for the clerk?

7 posted on 08/31/2002 9:36:49 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Squantos
SOP at my old department would have replaced that clerk with a cop if they knew/suspected ahead of time.

and hopefully undercover cops would be near the door and in the shop to protect
(more hopefully to replace) the public.
8 posted on 08/31/2002 9:38:10 AM PDT by VOA
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To: RJL
Why didn't they substitute an armed officer in a bullet proof vest for the clerk?

I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps they thought the perpetrator would bolt if he saw an unfamiliar face.

But, aside from putting the clerk in unnecessary danger, I think they did the right thing by waiting for the perpetrator to leave the store before confronting him.

9 posted on 08/31/2002 9:42:30 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: DCBryan1
"This is really not uncommon," he said. "In fact, clerks are probably better off not knowing."

Translation:
We at corporate headquarters and the police don't want the bait or his/her relatives
to know who to go after in any sort of wrongful death lawsuit.

File this story under "They Were Expendable".

And I'm sending a copy to my trusting cousin. I try and try to tell him that
despite the many brave cops out there, what they are really legally bound to do
is just take good notes and try to catch the person who murders you.
10 posted on 08/31/2002 9:42:59 AM PDT by VOA
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We need police officers to protect us and I try to support them, but the decisions made in this instance are indefensible.

I think most of these bad decisions come from the upper level police management. It seems like promotion or appointment to upper ranks deprives many of them of common sense. I have more faith in the average cop, as long as they were good people when hired and received proper training.
11 posted on 08/31/2002 9:59:05 AM PDT by RicocheT
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OK, all you armchair quarterbacks, what should the police have done? Chhose one:

(a) Arrest two people for walking into a store - before they do anything - and try them on an informant's testimony?

(b) Arrange a substitute for the cashier? Without the store's permission? With no training on store procedures? Who might be detected as a policeman by the thieves?

(c) Arrest the thieves in the store after they show a weapon? Risking a shootout inside?

Waiting to arrest outside the store seems reasonable to me. And, if the police gave a funny story, it was probably to protect their informant.

12 posted on 08/31/2002 10:01:54 AM PDT by RossA
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You did not give us the most reasonable choice :

(d) Have a SWAT officer in civilian clothing blow the life-long criminal, three time parolee's heart out of his back with a close shotgun blast.

13 posted on 08/31/2002 10:32:50 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: RossA
I agree with you....we're in deep doo-doo when people start being arrested for what someone else SAYS they are going to do.

To rush in while the robbery is in place could have spooked the robber and caused the death of a number of people.
14 posted on 08/31/2002 10:32:54 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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or (e) Have a SWAT officer in civilian clothing blow the life-long criminal, three time parolee's heart out of his back with a rifle shot.
15 posted on 08/31/2002 10:35:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: *Donut watch
Our men in blue, doing their sworn duty, etc.
16 posted on 08/31/2002 10:41:18 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: *Donut watch
Ping!!
17 posted on 08/31/2002 10:45:55 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: SouthernFreebird
Perhaps .. But that does not explain why the perp was allowed to rest for several hours in a damn ditch .
18 posted on 08/31/2002 10:51:48 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: DCBryan1
THIS IS ONE REASON I ALWAYS CARRY A GUN.

This is the point that the libs always conveniently blow off. The cops are NOT obligated to protect you. Courts have ruled that you can't sue the cops for not preventing crime, even in cases of gross dereliction of duty where the crime is happening right in front of them. Therefore, it only makes sense that people should step up and be responsible for their own defense.

Call me crazy, but I think people should be expected to provide for their own self-defense and we should all be a lot less dependent on law enforcement, and "law enforcement" needs to quit prosecuting innocent people for having the terrible gall to protect themselves. More dead criminals means less live ones that go to prison to live off society for free, get 3 squares a day, sleep in a warm comfy bed, watch color cable TV, and get stoned all day because drugs are more available in prison than on the street.

19 posted on 08/31/2002 10:55:26 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: RossA
I think the PD needlessly exposed the clerk to danger. The perp could have blown away the clerk. That happens all too often. The clerk complies with all the robber's demands and is blown away anyways.
20 posted on 08/31/2002 10:58:11 AM PDT by csvset
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